On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Iain Duncan <iaindun...@telus.net> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 21:41 -0800, Mike Orr wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Iain Duncan <iaindun...@telus.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hi folks, I totally do not want to start a flame war here, but was >> > wondering if people could give me their reasons for preferring buildout >> > or virtualenv for automated builds of pylons apps or other wsgi apps. >> >> Virtualenv is more popular because it follows traditional Python usage >> for the most part. You install packages interactively and can change >> your mind at any time. Buildout's configuration recipes are hard for >> many people to memorize, and it's more suited to situations where you >> know ahead of time exactly which libraries you'll need You can >> change the configuration and rebuild the environment from scratch, but >> it's not as easy as installing an experimental package, trying it out, >> and then uninstalling it if you don't like it.So with virtualenv you >> can use the same tools for development as you use for deployment, >> whereas buildout is more of a deployment-only thing. > > Thanks Mike, that's exactly the kind of feedback I'm looking for. What > do you use for automating virtualenv based deployments/builds?
Are you trying to build test suites or do a large number of deployments? My deployment method is to make a virtualenv on the target machine, "svn export" the application and copy it, then make any adjustments needed. So I don't really do anything automated. Are you trying to build test suites or do a large number of identical deployments? If not, the work of setting up an automated build and verifying it's correct (and fixing problems when somebody else deploys it on their computer and it doesn't work) is not necessarily worth it compared to a manual install. >> On the other hand, buildout has some features virtualenv doesn't, like >> an egg cache. You can have it build up a shared cache of eggs you've >> installed, which it can pull from for later installs. > > Could you tell me why this is sometimes advantageous? It avoids downloading the same package again and rebuilding the egg. -- Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
