Re: [qmailtoaster] Email forwarding + SPF records.

[Unai Rodriguez]

Dear CJ,

Thank you so much for your response.

I am not sure if I made clear that the server throwing the error is the 
"forwarder" which is not under my control (that is the one hosted on an 
ISP -- bluehost.com).

I only control the 3rd "entity" (recipient):

[SENDER] -> [FORWARDER] -> [RECIPIENT]
(anyone) -> (bluehost)  -> (u-journal.org or gmail.com)

What I do not understand is why if the RECIPIENT is GMAIL everything is 
fine while if it is U-JOURNAL.ORG FORWARDER complains about the SPF 
record on SENDER?

Thank you so much again.

unai


On 2/4/10 12:14 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote:
You will need to add the leanservers.com to your includes and it should
work fine.  This is just an SPF issue.

On 02/03/2010 08:10 AM, Unai Rodriguez wrote:
Dear All,

Facts:

- I am running qmailtoaster under OpenSuse 11.0 (last pakages for suse not
the very latest available for centos)
- I have 2 domains: u-journal.org, spanisharmada.sg
- u-journal.org is hosted on my qmailtoaster server
- spanisharmada.sg is hosted on an ISP (bluehost.com)
- confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg is a (email) forward to m...@u-journal.org
(and some others)

Now when some email addresses send emails to
confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg they get an error (i.e. SPF violation):

==========================================================================
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at outbound-mail-70.bluehost.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<m...@u-journal.org>:
173.45.79.108 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 See
http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=unai%40leanservers.com&ip=69.89.21.30&receiver=mail
(#5.7.1)
Giving up on 173.45.79.108.
==========================================================================

I am also handling the domain leanservers.com and could certainly allow
bluehost.com to send emails (include:bluehost.com) but... what if other
people send emails and their SPF just do not allow bluehost.com?

What really puzzles me is that if I change the redirection of
confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg to x...@gmail.com the SPF error does not
occur.

How come it works for gmail? I do not understand since the one who is
suppose to be violating the SPF is the forwarding which is the same for
u-journal.org and gmail.com. I noticed gmail has this SPF: "v=spf1
redirect=_spf.google.com".

Any thoughts/pointers? Is this a pure SPF issue, gmail or qmailtoaster?

Thank you so much!

With Best Wishes,
Unai Rodriguez

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