Maxwell Smart
Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:06:45 -0800
You have to enter an SPF include on the leanservers.com that it's OK to accept mail from bluehost.
/Here's what you can do:/ Contact the leanservers.com postmaster <mailto:postmas...@leanservers.com> and tell them that they need to change leanservers.com's SPF record so that it *authorizes* outbound-mail-70.bluehost.com. For example, they could change the record to something like v=spf1 a mx a:outbound-mail-70.bluehost.com -all CJ On 02/03/2010 09:00 AM, Unai Rodriguez wrote: > Dear CJ, > > Thank you so much for your response. > > I am not sure if I made clear that the server throwing the error is > the "forwarder" which is not under my control (that is the one hosted > on an ISP -- bluehost.com). > > I only control the 3rd "entity" (recipient): > > [SENDER] -> [FORWARDER] -> [RECIPIENT] > (anyone) -> (bluehost) -> (u-journal.org or gmail.com) > > What I do not understand is why if the RECIPIENT is GMAIL everything > is fine while if it is U-JOURNAL.ORG FORWARDER complains about the SPF > record on SENDER? > > Thank you so much again. > > unai > > > On 2/4/10 12:14 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: >> You will need to add the leanservers.com to your includes and it should >> work fine. This is just an SPF issue. >> >> On 02/03/2010 08:10 AM, Unai Rodriguez wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Facts: >>> >>> - I am running qmailtoaster under OpenSuse 11.0 (last pakages for >>> suse not >>> the very latest available for centos) >>> - I have 2 domains: u-journal.org, spanisharmada.sg >>> - u-journal.org is hosted on my qmailtoaster server >>> - spanisharmada.sg is hosted on an ISP (bluehost.com) >>> - confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg is a (email) forward to >>> m...@u-journal.org >>> (and some others) >>> >>> Now when some email addresses send emails to >>> confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg they get an error (i.e. SPF violation): >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at outbound-mail-70.bluehost.com. >>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following >>> addresses. >>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. >>> >>> <m...@u-journal.org>: >>> 173.45.79.108 does not like recipient. >>> Remote host said: 550 See >>> http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=unai%40leanservers.com&ip=69.89.21.30&receiver=mail >>> >>> (#5.7.1) >>> Giving up on 173.45.79.108. >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> >>> I am also handling the domain leanservers.com and could certainly allow >>> bluehost.com to send emails (include:bluehost.com) but... what if other >>> people send emails and their SPF just do not allow bluehost.com? >>> >>> What really puzzles me is that if I change the redirection of >>> confirmati...@spanisharmada.sg to x...@gmail.com the SPF error does not >>> occur. >>> >>> How come it works for gmail? I do not understand since the one who is >>> suppose to be violating the SPF is the forwarding which is the same for >>> u-journal.org and gmail.com. I noticed gmail has this SPF: "v=spf1 >>> redirect=_spf.google.com". >>> >>> Any thoughts/pointers? Is this a pure SPF issue, gmail or qmailtoaster? >>> >>> Thank you so much! >>> >>> With Best Wishes, >>> Unai Rodriguez >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >>> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >>> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >>> installations. >>> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them >>> today! >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, >>> and packages. >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group > (www.vickersconsulting.com) > Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and > installations. > If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and > packages. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com > For additional commands, e-mail: > qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com > > -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com