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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Monologue


  Amen John!  You have seen the light, lol.  For those with sight impairments, 
that might not be possible.  For others in scooters, wheelchairs, walkers and 
those with developmental disabilities who are not represented, may not have the 
necessary support network and advocates working on their behalf and betterment.
  Each day it seems like ADA and what it represents is getting watered down to 
benefit another town crier.
  We need to get the word out daily, not once a decade.

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 4/28/2008 12:23:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
    Sure, the WC video is not aimed at people in WC's but it is in good taste 
and frankly, we aren't building much of a lobby in Washington DC by keeping 
quiet. I can't bring myself to say anything discouraging to someone that is 
pushing a positive message for me and those like me. I've done that work before 
and people bitched because it didn't represent their specific problem. One size 
doesn't fit all. Think how left out blind quads feel? If we get anyone to 
listen at all we are doing good. I thank the guy kindly for his effort and wish 
him more luck if he should try again. 
    I did some work with state and county engineers to establish standardized 
structural codes and design guidelines for accessible buildings back in the 
1970's. Those codes, I'm sure, are outdated by the ADA now. It was nice to get 
paid to "come lookie". 


    Best to y'all,
    john


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: quad-list@eskimo.com
    Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:29:34 PM
    Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Monologue


    My cousin was the V.P. of a college in Owosso, MI.  They had just spent $35 
million to make the campus accessible (in 1989).  He asked me to look at what 
they had done.  With me in my electric chair and him in my manual chair, we 
toured the campus.  Some sidewalks had a slant (sideways) of up to 8 degrees 
which landed him in the grass.  There were concrete ramps with no guardrails; 
doors with no auto-openers and to heavy for a quad to open; switch-back turns 
in narrow spaces; restrooms too small; etc., etc.

    He brought the deficiencies to the Board of Directors who consulted a 
builder.  The additional costs would be $25 million because some "fixes" 
involved structural changes.  If only some of us could consult that way BEFORE 
buildings and streets are changed...

    I can't travel on sidewalks here because of missing or bad curb cuts and 
really bad sidewalks.

    In a message dated 4/28/2008 12:14:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
      But I could say the same thing about so many others on this list, 
including its owner Jim.  His actions and abilities speak for themselves. 

      Bill aka "Ding"
      Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. 





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