> On May 5, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Dupéron Georges <jahvascriptman...@gmail.com>
> Le vendredi 5 mai 2017 16:36:49 UTC+2, Matthias Felleisen a écrit :
>> I think that developers should write contracts and use them during testing
>> and deployment in the same way. I did this decades ago for embedded realtime
>> software and we’d be all better off if we did so.
> I agree that I always feel uneasy about turning off contracts. But sometimes
> performance is a problem.
> How would you therefore recommend checking the invariant that the recursive
> function's output is a list of integers, then (as a simple example)?
> 1. (define/contract (foo input) (-> blah (listof integer?)) …)
> This has a O(n²) cost.
I assume input is also a list. Then Racket’s define/contract is NOT O(n²)
because the recursion of foo is considered INSIDE the boundary. You have to
jump through hoops to get define/contract to check recursive calls. (If it does
so now, it’s a bug.)
> I'd consider this bad programming. It's not about small speed improvements,
> it's about making an application unusable altogether
Absolutely. Which is why I assumed you had written an alternative to get the
> 4. (define/contract (foo input) (-> blah (listof integer?)) …)
> where the contract check stops when it encounters an already-checked value.
[What’s the diff to 1?]
> In my current academic project (a typed variant of Nanopass), I'm using a
> hybrid approach: types enforce "simple" invariants. More complex structural
> invariants (acyclicity, well-scopedness, backward "parent" pointers in the
> AST which indeed point to the correct parent, and so on) are checked at
> run-time, since they cannot be expressed using Typed Racket's type system
> alone. Once such an invariant is checked, a phantom type is used on the
> value's type to indicate that the value was safely checked against a given
> This allows compile-time verification that a call to a transformation pass
> gives a value which was properly checked, and also reduces the need for
> performing the same checks against the AST too often (passing the same AST to
> two or more analysis passes needs only one check).
> I'm unaware of mechanisms which would allow annotating list elements or
> syntax objects in Racket, which would allow solution 4 to work. If it was
> possible to have chaperone contracts on pairs, it would be possible to wrap
> the checked output values with a no-op "witness" chaperone, and check for the
> presence of the chaperone. Alternatively, the contract system could maintain
> a cache of recently-checked values (like equal? does) e.g. using a weak hash
> Of course, the best solution is to use types, but until Typed Racket becomes
> versatile enough to write macro implementations, and until Typed Racket gains
> dependent types, so that a wide range of expressive properties can be
> encoded, what would you recommend?
Have you considered using nano-pass specific types? Leif and I did for a brief
time, but we moved on to other things. (We had a private exchange on that one.)
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