I think no one has thought of that one yet, Pete! We don't have examples of
such in the NACO training materials and I haven't run across one in
authority records (but that doesn't mean that it hasn't been done. Would
like to hear what Bob Maxwell thinks about this.
Adam Schiff
University of Washington Libraries
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From: Wilson, Pete
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9
Thanks for these and your later set of examples, Adam.
Should we be doing something similar for works that are selections from a
single larger work, rather than collective works? Certainly there is no
reason to think that one book of selections from, say, Paradise Lost would
have the same content as another. Are we making headings like:
Milton, John, $d 1608-1674. $t Paradise lost. $k Selections (Best of
Paradise lost)
or
Milton, John, $d 1608-1674. $t Paradise lost. $k Selections (2012)?
Pete Wilson
Vanderbilt University
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no2013093410 Adémar, $c de Chabannes, $d 988-1034. $t Works. $k Selections
(Opera liturgica et poetica)
n 85278491 Anastasius, $c Sinaita, Saint, $d active 640-700. $t Works. $k
Selections $s (Sermones duo in constitutionem hominis secundum imaginem Dei)
no2010055326 Raabe, Wilhelm, $d 1831-1910. $t Works. $k Selections (Knaur
Klassiker)
n 83731844 Friml, Rudolf, $d 1879-1972. $t Works. $k Selections (Rudolf
Friml music & piano playing series)
no2012109956 Raabe, Wilhelm, $d 1831-1910. $t Correspondence. $k Selections
(Fehse)
no 00038058 Coward, Noel, $d 1899-1973. $t Works. $k Selections (Methuen
Publishing Ltd.)
no 99050925 Foote, Horton. $t Plays. $k Selections (Newbury, Vt.)
The final three illustrate other choices for the qualifier besides date or
manifestation title of the compilation. Some of the examples are series
authority records, but the principle is the same as for other types of
aggregate works. For series we were already adding an additional qualifier
to distinguish them. Now we are doing it for all works.
The second example probably should not have subfield $s preceding the
parenthetical qualifier.
Adam Schiff
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Wilson, Pete wrote:
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 01:44:25 +0000
From: "Wilson, Pete" <pete.wil...@vanderbilt.edu>
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Access
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9
Adam--Can you give any examples of NACO authority records that have
qualifiers like your "Best of X's poetry?" I have been unable to turn any
up and am curious. Thanks.
Pete Wilson
Vanderbilt University
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They are considered separate compilation works, assuming that they have
different contents. The PCC NACO training says to add additional work
element (date, place of origin, or other distinguishing characteristic) to
the conventional collective title. The date is probably NOT the best
thing to add, although it's one option. Many NACO libraries are adding
the title proper of the collection instead, since it may better aid in
identification, for example:
X. Poems. Selections (Best of X's poetry)
Some catalogers are not happy with this practice, and would prefer to
consider the title of the compilation to be the preferred title by which
the compilation is known. LC's policy, however, implies that the compiled
work does not become known by its title except through the passage of time
(e.g.
Whitman's Leaves of Grass), and that for newly published compiled works, a
conventional collective title must be used instead.
Incidentally, although the RDA instructions do seem to be clear that the
date would be added in parentheses as you have done, in practice in MARC
these are being added in subfield $f following a period:
X. $t Poems. $k Selections. $f 2010
Adam Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:41 AM
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Subject: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9
I am uncertain about the relationship of 6.2.2.10 (Recording the Preferred
Title for a Compilation of Works of One Person, Family, or Corporate Body)
and 6.27.1.9 (Additions to Access Points Representing
Works) - both in theory and in practice.
If I've got two different collections of works of the same creator, e.g.:
"Selected poems / X"
"Best of X's poetry"
Both get the collective title "Poems. Selections" according to 6.2.2.10.2.
But for the AAP, am I now supposed to add some additional attribute
according to 6.27.1.9, e.g.:
X. Poems. Selections (1995)
X. Poems. Selections (2010)
In short, my question is whether RDA considers the two different poetry
collections as two different works (which must then be distinguished in
the AAP) or as the same work (then, of course, no additional attribute
would be necessary in the AAP).
I'm also interested in the general practice. I know that LC used to add
dates (at least in the case of complete works and selected works), but
that this practice has now been abandoned. So I assume that LC now never
distinguishes between different collections of the same type. What do
others do?
Heidrun
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