Adam,
    We're so old-fashioned we still have cataloguing staff looking at the
LC records.  We find adequate reasons to do so.  Along with catching
various infelicities, we add our local practice at this point.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu>wrote:

> Who does the removing?  In our workflow, LC copy goes through a quick
> cataloging process in Acquisitions & Rapic Cataloging Division, and never
> sees the eyes of complex copy or original cataloger.  That is, most of
> these records are processed either by machine or by student workers.  Do
> you go back and find them later and delete them?  In any case, that would
> not work for us because our catalog records are based on the master record
> in OCLC and whatever is there is the data that comes into our shared
> consortial catalog.  Any changes made by anyone in OCLC to a record we have
> holdings on will be propagated into our consortial catalog, so to get rid
> of CCTs we'd have to delete them in the OCLC master record, and should
> someone put them back in, we'd get them right back.
>
> Adam Schiff
> University of Washington Libraries
>
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, Adger Williams wrote:
>
>  Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:37:18 -0500
>> From: Adger Williams <awilli...@colgate.edu>
>>
>> Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and
>> Access
>>     <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
>> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
>> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional
>> collective
>>     titles
>>
>> Aren't conventional collective titles really Form/Genre headings?  (Poems.
>> Selections, vs. Essays Selections, vs. Works Selections)
>>
>> Would they not serve their function less confusingly if we treated them
>> that way?
>>
>> FWIW, my institution has been removed CCTs from LC records ever since the
>> abandonment of the AACR2 rule about "distinctive titles".  Very seldom
>> does
>> it require more than a moment's thought.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bernhard Eversberg <e...@biblio.tu-bs.de
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Am 20.12.2013 13:37, schrieb Heidrun Wiesenm?ller:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think the interesting point to note is that not everything which
>>>> consists of several works by the same person is in fact a "compilation
>>>> of works". Rather, in the case of...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is the sort of casuistry we've never envied AACR users for.
>>> Let's get serious about the A aspect in RDA and treat titles as
>>> such, as titles, always, because end-users will always search for
>>> those titles because they find them cited as such, and noch
>>> concocted and perturbed in ways they'd never imagine.
>>> Add conventional collected titles at leisure (if you find any),
>>> or rather use machine-actionable codes wherever possible, but leave the
>>> titles alone.
>>>
>>> If we can't get away from the old spirit of cataloging that was
>>> based on unit descriptions on 3x5 cards and on filing rules that were
>>> not even part of AACR, then RDA is really a waste of time and will
>>> create more nuisance than usefulness.
>>>
>>> B.Eversberg
>>>
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