Hi Greg,

I would also vote for changing the code such that only heavy atoms are used in 
the RMS calculation.

Best,
Sereina


On 22 Dec 2016, at 13:36, Greg Landrum <greg.land...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi JW,
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:57 PM, JW Feng <f...@dnli.com> wrote:
> 
> I am using AllChem.EmbedMultipleConfs to generate conformers.  I noticed that 
> conformers in the result set are very similar to each other.  I wrote a test 
> script to calculate RMS for the conformers and may have found a bug.  Looks 
> like AllChem.EmbedMultipleConfs is calculating RMS using all atoms, including 
> Hs, when pruning.  The documents says pruning is based on heavy atoms RMS.
> 
> You're absolutely correct. The code uses all atoms, but the documentation 
> says it only uses heavy atoms.
> So there's either a bug in the documentation or in the code. Here's the 
> github entry: https://github.com/rdkit/rdkit/issues/1227
> 
> I believe the right thing to do is change the code, which will lead to 
> different results from the embedding, but I will hold off on making the fix 
> to see if any discussion materializes either here or on github.
> 
>  
> Attached is my test script and an input file that illustrates the problem.  
> In this script, 50 conformers are generated and pruneRmsThresh is 0.5.  
> Pairwise RMS between conformers are >0.5 when H atoms are included.  Pairwise 
> RMS are <0.5 for many conformers when only heavy atoms are included.
> 
> Thanks for the detailed report and script to reproduce the problem!
> 
> -greg
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