Also, Congrats to Edward! On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote:
> Hi Troels, > > I will upload a bug report with the pdb file, the script I use, and the > data I'm using. > > Sincerely, > Sam > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < > tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sam. >> >> Hm... >> >> I had a look in: pipe_control/minimise.py >> >> The trouble start with line >> "elif values[i] in [None, {}, []]:" >> >> Where the index "i" is running out of bounds. >> >> The index is drawn from range(n). >> n = len(names) >> names = api.get_param_names(model_info) >> values = api.get_param_values(model_info) >> >> So "something" is not aligned well in the data structures. >> It seems that the index of parameter names exceeds parameter values. >> >> >> One guess is, that the selection of >> * diff_model >> * mf_models >> * local_tm_models >> >> is not correctly set. But I reach my limit of being able to help you. >> Edward is the expert here, but he is on paternity leave. >> >> >> Another possibility is that some of the spins are in "select" mode, where >> they maybe should be in "deselect" mode. >> >> Maybe the spins do not carry any data from before, and somehow relax >> expect this. >> >> It's very tricky to figure out! >> >> A bug report, some minimum data, and a script which make the bug occur >> can solve this. >> >> Then I can write a systemtest, if it relax which is failing. >> >> Best >> Troels >> >> >> >> >> 2016-09-29 0:23 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >> >>> Hi Troels, >>> Update on both proteins: So for protein 1, I can upload all the spins (H >>> and N), but then I recieve an error. This is the error I recieved for >>> protein 2 as well. These are both dimer pdb files. Meaning they have 2 sets >>> (set A) and set (B) (e.g. http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explor >>> e/explore.do?structureId=1DJ8 this pdb protein has 4 sets, A,B,C, and D >>> ours only have A and B). For both these proteins I recieve this error >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/multi/processor.py", line 494, in run >>> self.callback.init_master(self) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/multi/__init__.py", line 318, in >>> default_init_master >>> self.master.run() >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/relax.py", line 199, in run >>> self.interpreter.run(self.script_file) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", line 279, in >>> run >>> return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=locals(), >>> script_file=script_file, show_script=self.__show_script, >>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", line 585, in >>> run_script >>> return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, >>> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", line 484, in >>> interact_script >>> exec_script(script_file, local) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", line 363, in >>> exec_script >>> runpy.run_module(module, globals) >>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 180, in run_module >>> fname, loader, pkg_name) >>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code >>> exec code in run_globals >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/RGS4_modelfree_sample_script.py", >>> line 31, in <module> >>> dAuvergne_protocol(pipe_name=name,pipe_bundle=pipe_bundle,di >>> ff_model=DIFF_MODEL,mf_models=MF_MODELS,local_tm_models=LOCA >>> L_TM_MODELS,grid_inc=GRID_INC,min_algor=MIN_ALGOR,mc_sim_num >>> =MC_NUM,conv_loop=CONV_LOOP) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/auto_analyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", >>> line 246, in __init__ >>> self.execute() >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/auto_analyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", >>> line 600, in execute >>> self.multi_model(local_tm=True) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/auto_analyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", >>> line 888, in multi_model >>> self.interpreter.minimise.grid_search(inc=self.grid_inc) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/prompt/uf_objects.py", line 225, in >>> __call__ >>> self._backend(*new_args, **uf_kargs) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/pipe_control/minimise.py", line 172, >>> in grid_search >>> model_lower, model_upper, model_inc = grid_setup(lower, upper, inc, >>> verbosity=verbosity, skip_preset=skip_preset) >>> File "/home/crowlab/relax-4.0.2/pipe_control/minimise.py", line 341, >>> in grid_setup >>> elif values[i] in [None, {}, []]: >>> IndexError: index out of bounds >>> >>> Which from my understanding basically means, the co-ordinates of the >>> spins are out of the acceptable range for relax. I've checked all the >>> co-ordinates for both, nothing is extreme or outlandish (all within a range >>> of -20 to 20). >>> Is relax unable to process pdb files that are dimers (with 2 sets A and >>> B).? Furthermore, is it unable to process trimers and tetramers? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Sam >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Troels, >>>> >>>> I ran the relax -x and recieve this error at the GUI tests >>>> ============= >>>> = GUI tests = >>>> ============= >>>> >>>> ........................** >>>> Gtk:ERROR:gtkfilesystemmodel.c:746:gtk_file_system_model_sort: >>>> assertion failed: (r == n_visible_rows) >>>> Abort (core dumped) >>>> crowlab: [~/relax-4.0.2]> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>> >>>>> An update on protein number 1: I have successfully resolved the >>>>> problem. Initially the pdb file had HN instead of just H for the backbone >>>>> hydrogens. So it couldn't read it. I changed all the HN to H. Then I >>>>> recieved the error >>>>> RelaxError: Multiple alternate location indicators are present in the >>>>> PDB file, but the desired coordinate set has not been specified >>>>> By removing the extra N, all the text for the 3D location (the >>>>> co-ordinates) for the HN were shifted a space (no longer aligned). Once I >>>>> aligned them all, relax was able to read all the spins. So its working >>>>> now. >>>>> I'm currently running the test suite as well. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Sam >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To test the speed difference between script and GUI, >>>>>> you could try to run the full test-suite through the terminal or >>>>>> inside the GUI. >>>>>> >>>>>> That should give you a clue about time difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-09-28 20:32 GMT+02:00 Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you get different results, for the same setup, this is not good. >>>>>>> Not at all ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you run the full relax test suite after installation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Installation_test >>>>>>> >>>>>>> run it with: >>>>>>> relax -x >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This takes about 1 Hour to run, and should not be used with multiple >>>>>>> processors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Relax will test itself with thousands of unit tests and system >>>>>>> tests, and confer that all >>>>>>> results are the same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the system tests do not pass on each system, something fishy is >>>>>>> going on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the best line of defence against "systems" acting weird due >>>>>>> to software/packages etc. etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best >>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2016-09-28 9:44 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wanted to give a bit of feedback on the results I've obtained >>>>>>>> throughout the few weeks I've been using model free on relax. First >>>>>>>> off, >>>>>>>> thank you guys (both you and Edward) immensly for your patience and >>>>>>>> help as >>>>>>>> I attempted to understand and work relax. Secondly, I have noticed a >>>>>>>> difference between using the gui and the terminal (using scripts to run >>>>>>>> relax). I've currently finished about 3 runs using the gui, and 3 runs >>>>>>>> using the terminal (all the same data sets, same pdb files, same >>>>>>>> settings, >>>>>>>> etc.). The gui takes about a week to finish, where the terminal takes >>>>>>>> approximately 24 hours. I've tried this on 2 proteins, both had the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> results. The terminal is by far, much faster than the gui. Finally, >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>> run 1 protein on 2 different computers (one using the multi-processor >>>>>>>> platform, and on another computer, single-processor). The data sets >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> all the same, the same pdb file, etc. , but the results I obtained >>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>> computers were slightly different. For the most part, most of the >>>>>>>> difference in the data was similar, slightly different, but within the >>>>>>>> error. But there were about 7 or 8 data points that appeared in one >>>>>>>> run on >>>>>>>> one computer, and were absent in another run on another computer. This >>>>>>>> happened in both the S^2 I analyzed and the Rex. >>>>>>>> I.e. On the fedora 20 (single processor), say I had S^2 values for >>>>>>>> amino acid 24,25 and 26 in the sequence, but not for 28,29, and 30. On >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fedora 24 (multi-processor), I might be missing a value for amino acid >>>>>>>> 24, >>>>>>>> but I would have S^2 values for 28,29 and 30. Note the data sets are >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> the same, the pdb files the same, settings the same, I used the same >>>>>>>> script >>>>>>>> for both. The only difference between these runs is they were run on >>>>>>>> different computer and one was single processor well another was multi. >>>>>>>> I don't know why I obtained different data from 2 different runs, >>>>>>>> when the input was all the same, just on different computers. >>>>>>>> However the S^2 values do make sense. The Rex values were >>>>>>>> incredibly small (1x10^-20), but there are some similarities (in terms >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> big Rex values) between the Rex I obtained from relax, and CPMG data >>>>>>>> analyzed by glove. So I have been able to obtain some reasonable data >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> results from model_free using relax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have attempted the fix for running on a multi-processor platform >>>>>>>>> by creating the script you told me too, and I still got the same >>>>>>>>> result. I >>>>>>>>> have uploaded a screenshot that shows again, relax is running in the >>>>>>>>> background, but there is no output for relax, nor can I input any >>>>>>>>> commands. >>>>>>>>> The only output I recieve is this: >>>>>>>>> Running relax with NP=$NPROC+8|bc in multi-processor mode >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And any command I type in after that gets no response. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've also checked the spins via script. For 2 scenarios. Scenario >>>>>>>>> 1- All hydrogens are kept as HN and Scenario 2- I change all the HN >>>>>>>>> spins >>>>>>>>> to H. >>>>>>>>> The output from Scenario one is, it read all the Nitrogen spins >>>>>>>>> accordingly : >>>>>>>>> Objects: >>>>>>>>> element: 'N' >>>>>>>>> isotope: '15N' >>>>>>>>> name: 'N' >>>>>>>>> num: 1304 >>>>>>>>> pos: array([ 13.196999999999999, 15.218 , >>>>>>>>> 3.192 ]) >>>>>>>>> select: True >>>>>>>>> hRGS4 178 THR #hRGS4:178@1304 >>>>>>>>> Class containing all the spin system specific data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Objects: >>>>>>>>> element: 'N' >>>>>>>>> isotope: '15N' >>>>>>>>> name: 'N' >>>>>>>>> num: 2617 >>>>>>>>> pos: array([ 22.696000000000002, 10.683999999999999, >>>>>>>>> -4.15 ]) >>>>>>>>> select: True >>>>>>>>> hRGS4 178 THR #hRGS4:178@2617 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But no hydrogens. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scenario 2- I still recieve the same error. >>>>>>>>> RelaxError: Multiple alternate location indicators are present in >>>>>>>>> the PDB file, but the desired coordinate set has not been specified. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have attempted the fix for running on a multi-processor >>>>>>>>>> platform by creating the script you told me too, and I still got the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> result. I have uploaded a screenshot that shows again, relax is >>>>>>>>>> running in >>>>>>>>>> the background, but there is no output for relax, nor can I input any >>>>>>>>>> commands. The only output I recieve is this: >>>>>>>>>> Running relax with NP=$NPROC+8|bc in multi-processor mode >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And any command I type in after that gets no response. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>>>>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Try to load the pdb file and make a spin_loop over the >>>>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>>>> How does the information look like? >>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Tutorial_for_model-free_analysis_s >>>>>>>>>>> am_mahdi#Check_the_spin_containers_via_script >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the multiprocessor on your Fedora 20 machine, try to >>>>>>>>>>> have a look at the bug. >>>>>>>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/?25084 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>> I suspect there is a mismatch between two installations of >>>>>>>>>>> relax. >>>>>>>>>>> One version of 2.x and one local of 4.x. >>>>>>>>>>> Try adding the full path to relax >>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Try make a run script like this and copy it some where to your >>>>>>>>>>> PATH >>>>>>>>>>> myrelax >>>>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> #!/bin/tcsh -fe >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # Set the relax version used for this script. >>>>>>>>>>> set RELAX=/sbinlab2/tlinnet/software/NMR-relax/relax_trunk/relax >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # Set number of available CPUs. >>>>>>>>>>> set NPROC=`nproc` >>>>>>>>>>> set NP=`echo $NPROC + 0 | bc ` >>>>>>>>>>> echo "Running relax with NP=$NP in multi-processor mode" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> # Run relax in multi processor mode. >>>>>>>>>>> mpirun -np $NP $RELAX --multi='mpi4py' $argv >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-24 1:03 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> >>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Update on Protein number 1: So I was able to successfully run >>>>>>>>>>>> model free with no problems on my protein (I don't know why it was >>>>>>>>>>>> giving >>>>>>>>>>>> problems before). The reason it may have been giving issues though >>>>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>>>> protein I am working with forms a dimer at the concentrations we >>>>>>>>>>>> work with >>>>>>>>>>>> (thus the results I have are for the Dimer form of the protein). >>>>>>>>>>>> The pdb >>>>>>>>>>>> file though only has a monomer structure though. I have been able >>>>>>>>>>>> to obtain >>>>>>>>>>>> the dimer pdb file using HADDOCK (docking program), but have come >>>>>>>>>>>> across a >>>>>>>>>>>> few problems uploading the pdb file. >>>>>>>>>>>> The initial problem was that all the hydrogens attached to the >>>>>>>>>>>> nitrogen were HN labeled on the HADDOCK modified pdb file, and >>>>>>>>>>>> model free >>>>>>>>>>>> could not understand what HN meant, and I would recieve this >>>>>>>>>>>> warning. >>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: Cannot determine the element associated with atom >>>>>>>>>>>> 'HN'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could however load up all the Nitrogen, but naturally, with >>>>>>>>>>>> no hydrogens, it wouldn't be able to calculate any bond vectors >>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>> nitrogen and hydrogen. So I would recieve this error and the >>>>>>>>>>>> program would >>>>>>>>>>>> close >>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxError: The spin ID '@H' matches no spins. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To fix this, I changed all the HN spins, to just H, but then >>>>>>>>>>>> recieved another error. >>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxError: Multiple alternate location indicators are present >>>>>>>>>>>> in the PDB file, but the desired coordinates set has not been >>>>>>>>>>>> specified. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't exactly understand what this error means. Is it saying >>>>>>>>>>>> the program can't locate the 3D coordinates for the Hydrogen and >>>>>>>>>>>> Nitrogen? >>>>>>>>>>>> If that is the case, why was it able to before, when it couldn't >>>>>>>>>>>> read any >>>>>>>>>>>> of the Hydrogen spins. I'm just confused a bit as to what this >>>>>>>>>>>> error means. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Update on protein number 1. I ran it with only 5 simulations. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It took a while, but it ended up finishing. So I assume its due >>>>>>>>>>>>> to bad data >>>>>>>>>>>>> simply slowing down the process. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Update on protein number 2. I ran it with only 2 spins as >>>>>>>>>>>>> well, and I still recieved the same error. I suspect its due to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the pdb >>>>>>>>>>>>> file. I'm going to attempt to use another program to add the >>>>>>>>>>>>> hydrogens to >>>>>>>>>>>>> my pdb file and try again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats weird, I can open it up directly from the link you sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. I'll reupload it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The file: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file #28673: relax -i data for 4.0,2 a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=28673 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its emtpy? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-20 20:05 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a bit confused what you are talking about. There is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file labeled .? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/?25084 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot open the file.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, try to specify the full path to relax. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not just ./relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but /home/user/xxx/relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-19 23:13 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just uploaded the 4.0.2 relax -i info. I already have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minfx 1.0.12 with 4.0.2. But I can't open relax on multi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform for either version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Troels Emtekær Linnet < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please upgrade! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Name Installed Version Current >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minfx True 1.0.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0.12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax information: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 2.2.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-19 19:41 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have uploaded the bug report for the issue with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running relax on multiple processors on my fedora 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the mpirun report bindings on the fedora 24 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer later today >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (that is not my lab so I don't have access to it, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in yet). If there is any more info that is needed please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let me know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick response! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 1: I will attempt to troubleshoot using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advice you gave me. The problem occurs write after it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicates its writing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file for prolate round_3 (so its about to start it). I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will run it again >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and post the output to give you a better idea. I'm pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the output >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was something like this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over-fit spin deselection: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No spins have been deselected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resetting the minimisation statistics. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will double check and send you another email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the actual output. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 2: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using the sample script for dAuvergene protocol. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the only thing I've changed since my previous run (the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one that worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you wrote a tutorial for), was the pdb file and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data set I used. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing I suspected was causing an issue ,was the pdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file since I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly modified it, and thats really the only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run versus the others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also side note, if I were to deselect the spins that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have data for or I have bad data for, that wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change any of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculations correct? I never have since I assumed relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would just ignore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the amino acids I don't have data for, but it may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help increase the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed of my calculations if I just tell relax to just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore the spins from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Troels Emtekær Linnet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to hear you that you get some progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me to find out, if you are minimizing or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Monte-Carlo simulations? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This COULD be the problem: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How relax works (at least how it works for relaxation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dispersion): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Step 1: Minimize the error for the target function. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find the parameters which best match the target function >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the data, by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimizing the error. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here each individual spin minimization is handed out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a processor for calculation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Step 2: Determine the error of the minimization by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monte carlo simulations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Create (Standard 500) additional datasets with a copy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the original. Modify each datapoint by an error, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drawn from a gaussian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution where the width is described by the error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of measurements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now hand out each of the datasets to the processor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each processor should now calculate the minimization for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the spins. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimization should be more quick, as the starting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position is chosen from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Step 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possible problem: One (or more) of the spins has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad data. So a little change of the data makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the minimization >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space very different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of a flat table. Where should the "minimization >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ball" run into? Maybe you have created a small new bump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the table. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is typically for "bad" data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could either be the measurement OR the error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estimation. Relax will keep on searching for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are "unlucky", some of the created datasets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will make relax hang for a very long time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it is NOT possible to ask a processor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about its "current" work, when it is doing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimization for a whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dataset. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if it was, it would create an output of 64 spins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being minimized at the same time, creating a big mess, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the processors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are working alone. When doing Monte-Carlo simulations, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax are quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silent. Only reporting when a whole dataset is done. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is relax stuck in Monte-Carlo simulations? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possible solution: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *) Set Monte-Carlo simulations to 3 (which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum), and know that you have found the right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum, but the error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estimation of the parameters are wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *) Carefully inspect your data, deselecting all spins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which have "bad data". Look at their graphs. Consider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working with as few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spins as possible, and work your way up! Working this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way will greatly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase your productivity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 2: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you setting the bonds for the minimization >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like the upper/lower bonds are specified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. This is not easy to do. How are you doing it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-19 17:11 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have successfully been able to run the model-free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis on 64 cores. The issue appears to have been I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply did not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specify the spin number, so after looking at your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial and making the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proper modifications, it ran with no complications. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat reasonable. I decided to try to run 2 other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proteins however; and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've come across problems for both again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I set this up just like the tutorial, and it runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no warnings or errors; however, the run never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finishes. At round_3 for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the prolate model when it starts to minimize it just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stops. I don't mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax is stopped or closed, I mean it stops doing any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculations. Relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is still open, and if I run the top command, I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still see something is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going on with the other cores, but nothing is being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculated. The run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 64 cores is incredibly fast (under 4 hours), so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading calculations or writing them, and I've left it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there for over 24 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours, and it's still just sorta stuck. There are no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors, no outputs, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just says its gonna start to minimize and then nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens after that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein2: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This protein was a little different since the pdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure was a crystal structure. I had to use WhatIf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to add the protons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto the pdb file. The structure appears to load up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine, all the spins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear to be read, data is loaded, vectors and are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculated and define, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but when I came to run the protocol this error pops up: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/multi/processor.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 494, in run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.callback.init_master(self) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/multi/__init__.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 318, in default_init_master >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.master.run() >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/relax.py", line 199, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.interpreter.run(self.script_file) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 279, in run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local=locals(), script_file=script_file, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=self.__show_script, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 585, in run_script >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return console.interact(intro, local, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script_file, show_script=show_script, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=raise_relax_ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 484, in interact_script >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exec_script(script_file, local) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/prompt/interpreter.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 363, in exec_script >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runpy.run_module(module, globals) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 192, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in run_module >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fname, loader, pkg_name) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _run_code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exec code in run_globals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/HdeA_script.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 30, in <module> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dAuvergne_protocol(pipe_name=n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ame,pipe_bundle=pipe_bundle,di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ff_model=DIFF_MODEL,mf_models= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MF_MODELS,local_tm_models=LOCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> L_TM_MODELS,grid_inc=GRID_INC, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> min_algor=MIN_ALGOR,mc_sim_num >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =MC_NUM,conv_loop=CONV_LOOP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/auto_a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nalyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", line 246, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __init__ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.execute() >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/auto_a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nalyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", line 600, in execute >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.multi_model(local_tm=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/auto_a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nalyses/dauvergne_protocol.py", line 888, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi_model >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.interpreter.minimise.grid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _search(inc=self.grid_inc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/prompt/uf_objects.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 225, in __call__ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self._backend(*new_args, **uf_kargs) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/pipe_control/minimise.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 172, in grid_search >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model_lower, model_upper, model_inc = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grid_setup(lower, upper, inc, verbosity=verbosity, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skip_preset=skip_preset) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/home/sam2/relax-4.0.2/pipe_control/minimise.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 341, in grid_setup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elif values[i] in [None, {}, []]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IndexError: index 0 is out of bounds for axis 0 with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should mention this error pops up when it decided >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to calculate the first spins upper and lower bounds. So >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this isn't at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimization portion of the calculation (like in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous bug). Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Troels Emtekær >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To tackle this problem, I would advice to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another bug. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creation and closing of a bug "leaves trails", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which maybe will help another person, when googling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the same problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To help you, can you do a "relax -i" on both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That give some indication about package versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and computer setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first thing we need to establish, is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpirun is working. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have to test the installation without relax. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you have a look at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/OpenMPI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try the different things like: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lscpu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpirun --report-bindings -np 11 echo "hello world" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpirun --report-bindings -np 4 relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --multi='mpi4py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we are confident about this, then we will try >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a small test script for relax. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try these things at both computers, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide 2 files with commands and output. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then attach it to the bug report. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-14 6:40 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I saw the tutorial you put, and the main >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem was I had not specified my data was only for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Nitrogen spins. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After applying the spin column, my data loaded and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax ran model free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no problem. I have a script that starts and runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax and model free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all automatic, if you wish I can send it via email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload it to the tutorial wiki page. So I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully run model-free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in script mode for a uni-processor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem now with the multi-processor is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the script won't load. In the bug page I uploaded a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot where I had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input the 'mpirun -np 4 ../relax --multi='mpi4py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command, however I had no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output. I checked processes running in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background, and saw that there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was indeed 4 processess running in the background (1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master and 3 slaves) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for relax; but there was no output, so I was unable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to load any data, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create a pipe or anything. This was only on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedora 24 computer, not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedora 20. On the Fedora 20 computer, I was able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully open relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a multi processor platform. I can send the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots and the relax -i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for both computers again. I don't know why it doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work the fedora 24. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what could be causing this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again in advance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Troels Emtekær >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you send the mail again and include the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maillist? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den tirsdag den 13. september 2016 skrev Mahdi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I saw the tutorial you put, and the main >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem was I had not specified my data was only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the Nitrogen spins. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After applying the spin column, my data loaded and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax ran model free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no problem. I have a script that starts and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs relax and model free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all automatic, if you wish I can send it via email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload it to the tutorial wiki page. So I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully run model-free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in script mode for a uni-processor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem now with the multi-processor is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the script won't load. In the bug page I uploaded a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot where I had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input the 'mpirun -np 4 ../relax --multi='mpi4py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command, however I had no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output. I checked processes running in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background, and saw that there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was indeed 4 processess running in the background >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1 master and 3 slaves) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for relax; but there was no output, so I was unable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to load any data, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create a pipe or anything. This was only on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedora 24 computer, not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedora 20. On the Fedora 20 computer, I was able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully open relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a multi processor platform. I can send the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots and the relax -i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for both computers again. I don't know why it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work the fedora 24. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what could be causing this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again in advance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Troels Emtekær >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I closed the 2 bug reports as invalid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The data is not labelled correct. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But this can be corrected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see this tutorial I wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Tuto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rial_for_model-free_analysis_sam_mahdi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this give some guidance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you experience any new problems, please feel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to ask!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you experience, will probably be the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for many. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your feedback is valuable for the development. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please wait with using mpirun and multiple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors, before you are absolutely sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it will run on 1 processor. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bugfixing when using multiple processors is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-12 17:36 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just created another bug report. I simply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy pasted the email, and uploaded the script >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emtekær Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you produce another bug report. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please don't attach files to these mails as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will strain the mailinglists. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den lørdag den 10. september 2016 skrev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additional question that I had, if you could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also look into this as well on Tuesday please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have decided to try to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write a script to automate this whole process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (since I won't be using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gui to do model free), and I've come across a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. I can successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open up relax using openmpi, and can load the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdb file, and assign all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spins and isotopes; however, it appears it will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only load one data file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the very first one I'll have inputed in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script). I don't know if there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a problem with how I wrote my script. Not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only will it not load the rest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my data sets, it won't actually run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dAuvergne's protocol either, it'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just load the data set and exit out of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program. Attached is the script >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wrote for relax. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the output once relax has loaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script = 'model_free_sample_script.py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from time import asctime, localtime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from auto_analyses.dauvergne_protocol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import dAuvergne_protocol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIFF_MODEL=['local_tm','sphere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ','prolate','oblate','ellipsoid','final'] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MF_MODELS=['m0','m1','m2','m3' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,'m4','m5','m6','m7','m8','m9'] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOCAL_TM_MODELS=['tm0','tm1',' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tm2','tm3','tm4','tm5','tm6',' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tm7','tm7','tm8','tm9'] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GRID_INC=11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIN_ALGOR='newton' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MC_NUM=500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONV_LOOP=True >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pipe_bundle="mf(%s)"%asctime(localtime()) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name="origin-"+pipe_bundle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pipe.create(name,'mf',bundle=pipe_bundle) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.read_pdb('2d9j.pdb', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set_mol_name='hRGS7') >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.load_spins('@N',ave_pos=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.load_spins('@NE1',ave_pos=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.load_spins('@H',ave_pos=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure.load_spins('@HE1',ave_pos=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spin.isotope('15N',spin_id='@N*') >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spin.isotope('1H',spin_id='@H*') >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='R1_Agne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s',ri_type='R1',frq=599.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='R1_Agnes',res_num_col=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='R2_Agne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s',ri_type='R2',frq=599.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='R2_Agnes',res_num_col=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='ssNOE_A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gnes',ri_type='NOE',frq=599.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='ssNOE_Agnes',res_num_col >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =1,data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='R1_NMRF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM',ri_type='R1',frq=799.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='R1_NMRFAM',res_num_col=1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='R2_NMRF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AM',ri_type='R2',frq=799.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='R2_NMRFAM',res_num_col=1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='ssNOE_N >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MRFAM',ri_type='NOE',frq=799.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='ssNOE_NMRFAM',res_num_co >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l=1,data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interatom.define(spin_id1='@N',spin_id2='@H', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct_bond=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interatom.define(spin_id1='@NE1',spin_id2='@HE1', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct_bond=True) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interatom.set_dist(spin_id1='@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N*',spin_id2='@H*',ave_dist=1.02*1e-10) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interatom.unit_vectors() >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value.set(-172*1e-6,'csa',spin_id='@N*') >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dAuvergne_protocol(pipe_name=n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ame,pipe_bundle=pipe_bundle,di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ff_model=DIFF_MODEL,mf_models= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MF_MODELS,local_tm_models=LOCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> L_TM_MODELS,grid_inc=GRID_INC, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> min_algor=MIN_ALGOR,mc_sim_num >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =MC_NUM,conv_loop=CONV_LOOP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it indicates that my script has loaded. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, after it loads the spins from the pdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file, this is what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after my first data set has been loaded: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax> relax_data.read(ri_id='R1_Agnes', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ri_type='R1', frq=599642000.0, file='R1_Agnes', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dir=None, spin_id_col=None, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mol_name_col=None, res_num_col=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> res_name_col=None, spin_num_col=None, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spin_name_col=None, data_col=2, error_col=3, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sep=None, spin_id=None) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening the file 'R1_Agnes' for reading. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['Residue', 'R1', 'Error'] is invalid, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> residue number data 'Residue' is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['1'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['2'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['3'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['4'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['5'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['6'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['7'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['8'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['9'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['10'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['11'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['16'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['17'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['18'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['21'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['22'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['23'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['26'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['27'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['28'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['31'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['40'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['46'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['58'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['61'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['62'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['63'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['73'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['76'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['79'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['81'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['82'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['85'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['94'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['97'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['99'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['106'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['115'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['121'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['126'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['127'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['134'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['135'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['136'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['137'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['139'] is invalid, the data is missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxError: The spin ID '#hRGS7:12' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponds to multiple spins, including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '#hRGS7:12@N' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and '#hRGS7:12@H'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowlab: [~/relax-4.0.2]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see, I have all 6 data sets set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to load, but only the very first one appears to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do so, and after it loads, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it just exits out of relax. Again, I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this is a problem with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how I wrote the script. The Relax_script1 is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one that I load up to run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole thing. The model free script.py is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just the script it reads once >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax has opened up. Again, I can see all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spins are properly loaded, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the isotopes are set. It just everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the first data set that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't load. Thanks again in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Mahdi, Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much. If there is any extra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info you need please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emtekær Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will have some time on Tuesday, and then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will look at it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den onsdag den 7. september 2016 skrev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Troels, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I uploaded all the files, and even added >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the entire output that i recieved using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model free in script mode. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't know if all the files uploaded need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have that link, so only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial files that were uploaded it, have it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your help! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emtekær Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to upload more files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the initial upload. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the comment thread, please also make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a link to this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.gna.org/public/re >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lax-users/2016-09/threads.html#00001 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-06 19:10 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply. When I come >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upload my data though, I see there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only 4 available slots I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload my data. I have a total of 6 data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files however, that need to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded (3 of each frequency). I also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to upload the relax -i of 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different computers, and the script file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using for a total of 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files that need to be uploaded. Is there a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to increase the amount I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload, or can I upload more after the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial submission? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Troels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emtekær Linnet <tlin...@nmr-relax.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To solve this problem, it would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier to have access to some of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you upload to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/?group=relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take each of your data files, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete all data, except 2 spins. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also provide your script file, or a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> description of which button you press in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the GUI. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also provide information about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your system with: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax -i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I will make a tutorial for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be added here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/Cate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gory:Tutorials >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a problem in relax, I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write a systemtest which will solve the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the problem will never return. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this a user error, the tutorial >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should help to prevent this, and would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first step before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding/modifying the manual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding using mpirun. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this page. Maybe it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/OpenMPI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-03 4:13 GMT+02:00 Mahdi, Sam < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I was able to set up and run the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dauvergne_protocol successfully by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the script in the wiki. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem I have come across now is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program doesn't seem to read my data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using the gui interface I was able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully load my data and run it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I upload my data using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script command: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax_data.read(ri_id='R1_Agne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s',ri_type='R1',frq=599.642*1e6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file='R1_Agnes',res_num_col=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data_col=2,error_col=3) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The output file simply gives errors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for amino acids I don't have data for: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the line ['1'] is invalid, the data is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is fine as relax just ignores >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these values and continues its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculations. I only receive this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warning for values I don't have data for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the same thing I got when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the gui interface (the gui however >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showed my values that I have data for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the residue it corresponds to, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the script I don't receive such >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an output, I don't know whether this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is normal or not). However, since I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get this warning for every amino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acid, I assume this means it has read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the values for the other amino acids. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of my data is the same, relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warnings only pop up for amino acids that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have data for. The problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, when I enter the dAuvergne protocol, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the protocol working, it starts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running local_tm however it appears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of my data has been uploaded: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The spin '#hRGS7:2@N' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been deselected because of missing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relaxation data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The spin '#hRGS7:3@N' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been deselected because of missing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relaxation data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I get that warning for every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single amino acid. From the output, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to have read the file since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it knows exactly which amino acids I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have data for, but I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why when it comes to running the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol, it tells me I havn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inputed any data. I have typed everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly according to the script from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki. From running the protoco, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it appears everything has properly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been uploaded, structure data, magnetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dipole interactions, csa, the data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pipe, the analysis variables, the python >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> module imports, and setting up the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spins from the pdb file. It appears the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only error is from loading the actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relaxation data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a completely unrelated side note, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been attempting to run relax on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple processors. I have tried 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different computers, both fedora linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have mpi4py and openmpi downloaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on both. On one, I can get relax on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple cores working (havn't been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to successfully run it due to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being unable to upload any data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly). On the other however, I type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mpirun -np --multi='mpi4py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script, but I get no output. I can see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's running in the background (top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command), but nothing pops up, no text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command, nothing. I typed the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpirun with the --gui, but that opened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up nothing. On a uni-processor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (typing in the exact same command without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicating how many cores i.e. no -np >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --multi='mpi4py') it works just fine, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I don't think its my openmpi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's an issue. I don't know whether >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an issue with my mpi4py or a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal computer issue (since on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer relax runs just fine on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple cores). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. when I do enter the top command >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see what's running. My master shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpirun, and the 3 slaves display >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> python when I put -np 4, so I know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is running in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. I have 8 cores. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:49 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahdi, Sam <sam.mahdi....@my.csun.edu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am attempting to run relax on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-processor mode. I have been able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > to successfully set-up relax to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operate in a multi-processor mode by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the mpirun -np #ofprocessors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /location/of/relax --multi='mpi4py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The problem I encounter is when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the --tee log dauvergne_protocol.py >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > command. I receive this error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > RelaxError: the script file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'dauvergne_protocol.py' does not exist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I located the script file and tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to direct to it's path >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > mpirun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/Relax/relax-2.2.5/relax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --multi='mpi4py' --tee log >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /usr/local/Relax/relax-2.2.5/a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uto-analyses/dauvergne_protocol.py >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > But i received this error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > RelaxError: the script file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '/usr/local/Relax/relax-2.2.5/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > auto-analyses/dauvergne_protocol.py' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Even though I have the script, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be able to locate it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On a side note, in the manual, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dash doesn't actually run the command. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I.e. in the manual it displays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -multi='mpi4py' . What it should be is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --multi='mpi4py' . The same goes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for -tee. It should be --tee. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax (http://www.nmr-relax.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the relax-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax-users@gna.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, get a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder, or change your subscription >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit the list information page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax-users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ relax (http://www.nmr-relax.com) This is the relax-users mailing list relax-users@gna.org To unsubscribe from this list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, visit the list information page at https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users