David E. Guinn
Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:36:36 -0800
----- Original Message ----- From: "Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:39 PM Subject: RE: Atheist inmate refused authorization for atheism study group I'm not sure there's any "technically" to it -- isn't the tax exemption for a wide range of nonprofits, including colleges, schools, advocacy groups (so long as they don't engage in lobbying or electioneering), and more?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Guinn Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:53 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Atheist inmate refused authorization for atheism study group True. And the tax exemption that protects both religious institutions and the American Humanist and American Atheist societies is not technically confined to religions...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Recall that only one Justice, Harlan, took the view that equal treatment for atheist conscientious objectors was constitutionally mandated; the plurality relied instead on a (tortured) interpretation of the statute. Eugene > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David E. Guinn > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:41 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: Re: Atheist inmate refused authorization for atheism > study group > > This doesn't make sense to me. Assuming that the prison does > allow meetings for religious groups, then under the selective > services cases requiring equal protection for atheism or > other beliefs equivalent to religion would seem to be required. > > As for protecting the publications--that does seem to follow > the common bias that wants to treat the 1st Amend. as simply > a free speech amendment--though I agree with you that it is > incoherent in terms of this case. > > David > > David E. Guinn JD, PhD > > Recent Publications Available from SSRN at > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=199608 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" > <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:28 PM > Subject: Atheist inmate refused authorization for atheism study group > > > Any thoughts on this? > > >From Kaufman v. Schneiter, 2007 WL 521218 (W.D. Wis. Feb. 15, > 2007): > > "Petitioner is an atheist. He contends that prison officials > have violated his rights under the free exercise clause and RLUIPA in > three ways: (1) by refusing to authorize a study group for inmates who > have described themselves as atheists, freethinkers, humanists and > 'other' and those who have identified themselves to prison > officials as > having no religious preference; (2) by failing to provide petitioner > with publications about atheism; and (3) by preventing him > from ordering > publications about atheism. > > "Petitioner has not stated a claim under the free exercise > clause for one simple reason. He does not allege (nor is it > possible to > see how he could plausibly do so) that merely reading books about > atheism or meeting in a study group with inmates of various > philosophical bents constitutes the exercise of his religion, that is > 'the observation of [ ] central religious belief[s] or practice[s]' of > atheism. Civil Liberties for Urban Believers, 342 F.3d at 760. > Therefore, petitioner must be denied leave to proceed on his > claim that > respondents Taylor, Hepp and Huibregtse violated his First Amendment > free exercise rights by refusing to provide him with materials about > atheism or to authorize a study groups for atheist, humanist and > freethinking inmates and inmates with no or an 'other' religious > preference.... > > "In this case, petitioner is not challenging the prison's > decision to deny atheists the opportunity to meet together to discuss > their commonly held religious beliefs. Instead, petitioner > alleges that > he asked prison officials to authorize a group for inmates of > differing > religious and philosophical persuasions, including inmates with no > religious preference at all, to meet together to discuss > their differing > ideas. Such an activity is more akin to a debate society > meeting than to > a group religious practice. Although petitioner might wish to > share his > atheist beliefs with others (just as a Christian inmate might wish to > evangelize his fellow prisoners), prison officials do not violate > inmates' free exercise rights when they refuse to permit gathering of > inmates of different religious or philosophical persuasions for the > purpose of facilitating inter-religious dialogue. By refusing to > authorize a study group for inmates who designate themselves as > atheists, humanists, freethinkers and "other" and inmates who have no > religious preference, respondents Taylor and Hepp did not violated > petitioner's rights under the free exercise clause or RLUIPA." > > On the other hand, from the same case: > > "[If] petitioner was unable to order books about atheism because > of the facility's ban on publications ... [then] the actions of prison > officials may have violated his rights under the free exercise clause > and RLUIPA as well as the free speech clause of the First Amendment." > > Why would studying atheism together be unprotected by RLUIPA > because it isn't "the observation of [ ] central religious > belief[s] or > practice[s]" of atheism, but ordering books about atheism be protected > by it? And why would a request for a study group for > atheists/freethinkers/humanists/"other" and those "who have > no religious > preference" be treated as a request "to authorize a group for > inmates of > differing religious and philosophical persuasions" -- simply > because the > group doesn't just include self-described atheists but also others who > sound pretty close to atheism but don't fit within that > "denomination"? > > Eugene > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. 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