I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I proposed to retire the project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is essentially what I meant. You and a few others stepped up and said that you wouldn't like to see it retiring and would like to give it a shot at helping with building a community, contributing patches, and just increasing activity in general.
Does it make sense? -Flavio On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <[email protected]> wrote: > the item 3 - deleted completely. > > Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here and > probably missed it. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation. >> >> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion - >> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are >> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point. >> >> Patrick >> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments. >>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8 >>> >>> >>> Is there anything else? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Oleg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or having >>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but the >>>> frequency >>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real issue. >>>> >>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. We are >> on >>>> the same page there. >>>> >>>> -Flavio >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report >>>>> >>>>> I have a few comments: >>>>> >>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important issues to >>>> address in >>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list here >> is >>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out more >>>> releases, >>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this point) >>>>> >>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member requesting >>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results of that discussion. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe that in >> my >>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding more >>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and >> self-governing >>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether or not the podling >> puts >>>>>> that down as an issue. (See: >>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> jzb >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Twitter: @jzb >>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ >>>> >>>> >>
