Correct, I was referring to the recent thread about shutting down the s4 podling. In the incubator that's called "retirement" http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
Glad to see folks stepping up! Patrick On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Flavio Junqueira <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I proposed to > retire the project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is essentially what > I meant. You and a few others stepped up and said that you wouldn't like to > see it retiring and would like to give it a shot at helping with building a > community, contributing patches, and just increasing activity in general. > > Does it make sense? > > -Flavio > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <[email protected]> wrote: > >> the item 3 - deleted completely. >> >> Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here and >> probably missed it. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation. >>> >>> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion - >>> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are >>> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point. >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Thanks ! >>>> >>>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments. >>>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8 >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there anything else? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Oleg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or having >>>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but the >>>>> frequency >>>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real issue. >>>>> >>>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. We are >>> on >>>>> the same page there. >>>>> >>>>> -Flavio >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42 >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a few comments: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important issues to >>>>> address in >>>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list here >>> is >>>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out more >>>>> releases, >>>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this point) >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member requesting >>>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results of that discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe that in >>> my >>>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding more >>>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and >>> self-governing >>>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether or not the podling >>> puts >>>>>>> that down as an issue. (See: >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jzb >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb >>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>> >
