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1. vAlmIki rAmAyaNa in UTF (Desiraju Hanumanta Rao)
2. [l2] [Poetry] Sahitya vaibhavaM - part 1 The Dice Play -
Vakrokti verses of Mayura 04-07 (hn bhat)
3. why vishwaamitra (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
4. Re: why vishwaamitra (balram shukla)
5. Re: why vishwaamitra (Naresh Cuntoor)
6. [general] New issue of vishvavANI (Avinash L Varna)
7. A query, please (Sankara Krishnan)
8. Re: A query, please (Ajit Krishnan)
9. compound words - Rameshvara (narayan iyer)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 03:49:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <desirajuh...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] vAlmIki rAmAyaNa in UTF
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Dear ?friends
I wish to inform that verses of Valmiki Ramayana are now transposed to UTF
fonts,?and the Itrans part of ?pratipadArtha section is colourised.?
This facility is per kindness of Smt. Shree Devi Kumar who transposed all of
the work by using certain software.?
This is presently housed in sanskritdocuments.org web site.?
>> http://sanskritdocuments.org/sites/valmikiramayan <<
The UTF fonts of OmkArAnanda Ashram are?made available in a zip file at this
address.
However, the original work in old Sanskrit 98 font, which font lost its
legibilty in browseer war,?is retained at the original place:
>> http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ <<
To read Sanskrit verses in this old site, readers are advised to install:??? --
Sanskrit New & Sanskrit 1.2 Fonts --by taking them from OmkArAnanda Ashramam's
web page. These are the substitutes for Sanskrit 98 font.
thanking youdesiraju hanumanta rao
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:33:38 +0530
From: hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [l2] [Poetry] Sahitya vaibhavaM - part 1 The Dice
Play - Vakrokti verses of Mayura 04-07
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Dear members,
Sorry for the delay in follow up work as I was busy. Here is the final
portion of the Vakrokti-verses of Mayura:
==========
4. ????????????? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ???????????????
?????? ??? ????????? ??????????????? ????? ??
candragraha?ena vin? n?smi rame ki? pravartayasyevam
devyai yadi rucitamida? nandinn ?h?yat?? r?hu? ||4 ||
Parvati: Without staking some gold,
I would not like to play. (candra ? means archaic usage, gold. But
here it may mean simply that since Shiva doesn?t have any money,
Parvati will not play without the stake of Candra, the moon). Why are
you make me (to play) like this.
Shiva: Nandin (the attendant of Shiva), Call R?hu, if it
(cha.ndragrahaNa) pleases the mistress. (If she doesn?t like to play
without (candragrahaNa = the lunar eclipse), call R?hu, who will seize
the moon to create lunar eclipse]
Why Raghu and Ketu are devour every year the moon and the sun?
The story of the churning of the ocean Amruta-manthana has an
epilogue after getting the nectar. The complete story of
samudra-manthan can be read in vikipedia here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudra_manthan
The story relevant here reads as follows: As the nectar appeared on
the ocean (according to some versions Dhanwantari, the incarnation of
Vishnu and the first physician appeared with the nectar in his hand),
by the joint effort of deva-s and asura-s, the asura-s seized away the
pot of nectar (from the hands of Dhanwantari) and all began to quarrel
over the possession of the pot. Then Vishnu appeared in the attractive
form Mohini, persuading the asura-s to handover to him who will serve
it to both seated in two different rows. Accordingly, both sat in two
different rows and Mohini began to serve to the row of deva-s only.
Knowing this, a demon, in the guise of deva-s had seated in their rows
and drank the nectar served by Mohini. But at the same time, the S?rya
and Candra pointed out this to Mohini (Vishnu) who ordered his weapon
disc Sudar?ana to cut of his head into two immediately. Thus the two
halves head and body separated, but still live. The head called R?hu
devours every now and then, but could now swallow Candra and S?rya to
revenge. This is called ?grahana? or eclipse of the Sun and Moon
according to Hindu mythology. Astrological accounts for the shadow
nature of R?hu (ch?y?) and Ketu (comet) as the heven bodies (graha-s).
The form of R?hu is described as that of a serpent. The head and tail
called these two. This is the reason for referring to him as serpent
also in the next verse by pun.
===================
5. ====================
?? ???? ??????????? ?????? ?????????? ???? ????
??? ??????? ????????? ???????????? ???????? ?
h? r?hau ?itada???re bhayak?ti nika?asthite rati? kasya
yadi necchasi sa?tyakta? sa?pratyevai?a h?r?hi? || ||
Parvati: Alas, how anybody can have enjoyment (play) with the
sharp-fanged terrifying rAhu (beside)? (How can any one rejoice
keeping a serpent by his side? This is the interpretation of Shiva, in
his reply)
Shiva: If it does not please you, I will remove the garlands of snake
(h?ra+ahi = snake worn as ornament by Shiva) .
*******
Shiva wears serpents as ornaments as very often called n?gabh??a?a.
?Shiva wears the skin of a tiger and has a snake twined round his
neck, two items of attire <http://www.answers.com/topic/attire> he
acquired in defeating these beasts when they were sent to destroy him
by jealous rishis, or sages?? Symbolically the serpent is the Jiva or
the individual soul which rests upon Shiva, the Paramatma or the
supreme soul. The five hoods mean the five senses or the five Tattvas
viz., earth, water, fire, air and ether. The five hoods or the five
serpents represent the five Pranas, which hiss in the body like the
serpent. The inhalation and exhalation are like the hissing of the
serpent. The individual soul enjoys the worldly objects through these
Tattvas. When the individual attains knowledge through control of
these senses and mind, he finds his eternal resting abode in Lord
Shiva, the supreme soul. This is the esoteric significance of Lord
Shiva's wearing the snake on His body. Lord Shiva wears serpents as
ornaments on His body. This indicates that Lord Shiva is absolutely
fearless and immortal. Generally serpents live for hundreds of years.
Thus wearing of serpents by Lord Shiva signifies that He is eternal.?
==========================
6. ??????? ???? ??? ??????????? ??? ??????????
?????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ??????? ?????????? ?
?ropayasi mudh? ki? n?'hamabhij?? kila tvada?kasya|
divya? var?asahasra? sthitveti na yuktam abhidh?tum || ||
Parvati: Why do you falsely attribute meanings otherwise (in my
speeches)? I didn?t mean any of your allegations. (a?ka means
allegation or blemish and also lap).
Shiva: That is not fair to say (that I do not know your a?ka = lap)
after you had been sitting on it for thousands of divine years!
**
P?rvati is seated on the lap of Shiva according to mythological
accounts. Here is a link to the image described as Anandeswara and
Anandeswari as such:
http://lifeblisstree.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=9
========================================
????? ??????-????-????-????-????????-???????????
????-??-???-?????????????????????? ??? ?
ittha? pa?upati-pe?ala-p??aka-l?l?-prayukta-vakrokte?|
har?a-va?a-tarala-t?rakam ?nanamavy?d bhav?ny? va? || ||
May the face of Bhavani, with the pupils of the eyes sparkling with
joy, during the skilful dice play with Pa?upati with these puns like
tender nooses (pe?ala-p??aka-l?l? = skilful dice play and with the
charm of nooses) protect you.
This means as it is, Parvati wanted to avoid playing dice in all ways,
but was compelled by Shiva leaving no chance to escape, by replying
tit for tat for every excuses put forward by Parvati. She was pleased
by the skilful replies of Shiva who escaped all the nooses to hook him
and threw them at herself in return so that she was left no other way
than to continue playing. The phrase *pa?upati-pe?ala-p??aka-l?l?*
also seems suggeste the noose thrown to control the bull (*pa?upati* ?
also means ?iva*)* running aghast in a sport. I am not sure.
=======
If you like it, feed back is solicited with discussions if any for
clarification of any points.
With regards
--
Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
PONDICHERRY
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:41:05 -0800 (PST)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <peeka...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] why vishwaamitra
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Vishwaamitra means friend of the world. Normally it should be vishwamitra. Is
there any Panini rule for this.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:41:16 -0800
From: balram shukla <shuklabalra...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] why vishwaamitra
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?? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ???????-??????? ?????-??? ?????????? ?????
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:41 AM, P.K.Ramakrishnan <peeka...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Vishwaamitra means friend of the world. Normally it should be
> vishwamitra. Is there any Panini rule for this.
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:58:09 -0500
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] why vishwaamitra
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uttaram tu uktam. tadanu ..
By "RuShau", vishvamitram is also correct - but that would not refer to
RuShi V, but to some one who is the a friend to the world.
Naresh
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, balram shukla <shuklabalra...@gmail.com>wrote:
> ?? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ???????-??????? ?????-??? ?????????? ?????
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:58:09 +0530 (IST)
From: Sankara Krishnan <krishnan_sank...@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [Sanskrit] A query, please
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The?following Veda?Vakya is part of? the uttra-stuthi of the Sandyavandana
?prayer in South India
?
??? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??????????????
?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ??? ????
?
In this vakya, ??? is the verb. Hence, with my little knowledge of the grammar,
I presume? that all the nouns (and adjectives) should be in 4th (Dative Case).
But I find only ?????????? alone in the 4th case whereas the preceeding words
are all?in the 2nd (Accusative) case.
?
Am I missing something?
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:20:20 -0800
From: Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krish...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] A query, please
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namaste,
No, you have not missed anything. vibhakti-vyatyaya is very common in vedic
literature. For this mantra, the vedic commentator sAyana connects the dots
by saying, "tAdRsham parameshvaram anusmRtya iti sheShaH" i.e. Having
contemplated on the form described with dvitiiyA-vibhakti, we salute that
vishvarUpa. Practically speaking, consider all the words as having
chaturthii-vibhakti.
bhavadiiyaH,
ajit
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Sankara Krishnan <
krishnan_sank...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> The following Veda Vakya is part of the uttra-stuthi of the
> Sandyavandana prayer in South India
>
>
>
> ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??????????????
> ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ??? ????
>
> In this vakya, ??? is the verb. Hence, with my little knowledge of the
> grammar, I presume that all the nouns (and adjectives) should be in 4th
> (Dative Case). But I find only ?????????? alone in the 4th case whereas the
> preceeding words are all in the 2nd (Accusative) case.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> S. Krishnan
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:38:43 -0800 (PST)
From: narayan iyer <z1e1b1...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] compound words - Rameshvara
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Hi All,
This is what I learnt some time ago:
A) Rameshvara derived as "raamaH Ishvarah yasya saH" - bahuvreehi samasa
meaning to whom rama is Ishvara
B) Rameshvara derived as "ramasya IshvaraH raameSvaraH" - tatpurusha samasa
meaning Ishvara of Rama
C) Rameshvara derived as "ramaScha asou esvaraScha raameSvaraH" - karmadharaya
samsa - meaning it is both Rama and Ishvara
My query is whether by using accents (such as vedic accents of uddata,
anuddata, svarita etc.) the compound word can have only one meaning, and if
yes, the correct accent for Rama to convey each of the aforesaid meanings.
The indra-shatru exchanges on this list made me think, made me wonder if it may
be possible.
Thanks in advance
Regards,
narayan
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