Raju Mathur
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:25:27 -0700
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This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Tripta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LAP] meeting briefs Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:41:03 +0530 I think this is a great start. what if there are lot of confusions. confusions lead to converstations and conversations to clarity. atleast we hope so! the other day, for the first time since i have been involved in the whole issue i chanced upon the microsoft educational license and trust me, it only lets you breathe and that also if you are not brearthing down their neck, otherwise they may ask you to stop doing that also. inspired by that, i am doing a small write up on Between Microsoft Licensing and GPL: Open source and network society .... emphazing on factors of `freedom' `creativity' `access' and barriers. I think it would be worth a try if in the next meet, xeroxs of these licenses are carried and quoted to make the reality evident as it is. what say, guys! BTW i has posted the link to the list. need i do again. cheers tripta On Thursday 26 Sep 2002 8:43 pm, LinuxLingam wrote: > summary of meeting today, 26sep2k2, 2pm, > between rajmathur + linuxlingam and 4students + faculty at the school. > > thus: > > 1) summary of the internal ilugd + LAP meeting held on 21sep2k2 shared with > the school. > > 2) school wishes to know if there are dangers in this getting manipulated > or abused by others, specifically, work done for free and for freedom by > kids and teachers, getting exploited in any way, by others. raj explains > the gnu philosophy. > > 3) for peer evaluation and monitoring+mentoring, school wonders if a group > consisting of the principals and teachers should be formed. linuxlingam > endorses the idea, but stresses beyond the group (which could turn on > itself, who knows?) the gnu gpl fdl license ensures no one, external or > internal,can exploit or abuse the content and work. > > 4) the process of creating the content still not clear. they wondered if > they could use microsoft office? but they discovered it can't export xml > output. tut! tut!. raj recommends openoffice. linuxlingam mentions an ilugd > member volunteered to create a utility if need be. > > 5) the structure of the website is discussed. too intricate to discuss > here, best discussed when you come to the meeting scheduled for saturday > afternoon, 2;59pm. > > 6) school insists on seeing a demo, on getting further queries answered. > linuxlingam suggests how about a demo within 4 to 5 days, to not just the > school, but to *all* the participating schools with their faculty and > students involved in this event. school will get back on when this meeting > is scheduled, (mon, tue, wed... yes! that early!) > > 7) raj promises to give the people at this meet from other schools, knoppix > cds. go forth and multiply! > > 8) raj elaborated a great deal on the vision of freedom, its implication on > education, the paradigm shifts possible with this in education, and spoke > eloquently. the teachers and students content with their queries and doubts > laid to rest. *but* its obvious this needs to be done with the other > schools to ensure the idea and vision is properly understood. > > 9) details of how the website will be accessed, how data will be presented, > etc., thought-aloud. > > 10) more details with raj on the meeting, as he was making notes. in any > case, lemme repeat, we do need to urgently meet this saturday: > prateek+vipul+llinuxlingam+raj+pankaj+viksit+gaurav+dhruv+tripta+otherz to > finalize several thingz. > > 11) raj impressed with the fact that the schools are finally more open and > receptive to the idea of freedom in education and academia. the teachers > also discussed the fascinating possibilities with its implications to > education worldwide. > > 12) the quesiton of "why teachers should share their valuable notes" etc > was discussed. both raj and linuxlingam explained the many dimensions of > knowledge, learning, and how it is and has always been based on sharing. > finally, linuxlingam stressed that those teachers who do not wish to share > their knowledge will be allowed to do so, provided they commit that all the > knowledge that they have gathered through their life, was *never* shared to > them from others. and, how come newton and einstien and others who shared > their knowledge so freely with academia, and created their knowledge out of > the sharing and interaction with others, never talked about royalties, > copyrights, licensing. what if schools+colleges had to pay newton+einstien > licensing fee to teach their topics. > (e=mc2, now taught in school at the reduced price of 25 dollars per > student, conditions apply. u may make a bomb out of this equation provided > u pay a royalty fee of US dollar 10 for each collatoral damage, *but* u may > not use this equation for any peaceful purposes as this may violate the > eula. sharing of this equation with others expressly forbidden. duh!) > > excuse the above para! > > 13) raj + Linuxlingam committed they and other volunteers will give free > training and orientation to the schools in deploying gnulinux on desktops > as we come to that stage. > > 14) the next meeting, would have more volunteers active in this project > from ilgud, attending and doing their thing. as usual, this is a > collaborative effort. plus many issues need many minds to find collective > solutions. (Linuxlingam is only too happy to fade-to-black, anyways.) > > raj has more notes and details of the meet. > > see u guyz saturday, 28sep, 2:59pm > > LL ------------------------------ End of this Digest ****************** -- Raju Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ It is the mind that moves