[Hampshire] July meeting

This is going ahead and Jeff Best is speaking. Hopefully there will be some notification going out shortly. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk

[Hampshire] August meeting

Sadly, I am faced with probably having to cancel the August meeting. Since I do not want to do so at two minutes notice, I shall do so in the near future if no-one can make a constructive suggestion, either on or off list. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: Python

On Saturday 08 July 2017 13:06:29 Kris G wrote: > Hi, > > I am considering switching over to Debian from Fedora. I was wondering if > Debian Jessie has python pre installed? Or does it have to be installed via > the terminal as an apt-get? > > I apologise if this is a silly question? > > Regards.

Re: [Hampshire] Linux support required in Southampton

Forwarding to Portsmouth and SEHants mailing list. Lisi On Friday 30 June 2017 15:51:33 Chris Dennis via Hampshire wrote: > On 29/06/17 13:29, Chris Dennis via Hampshire wrote: > > Hello HantsLuggers > > > > I've just had a phone call from someone in Southampton who needs support > > for a

[Hampshire] Fwd: Re: [Portsmouth LUG] Portsmouth Digest, Vol 395, Issue 1

>1. Fwd: [Hampshire] Linux support required inSouthampton > (Lisi Reisz) >2. Re: Fwd: [Hampshire] Linux support required in Southampton > (aidangc...@btinternet.com) >3. Re: Fwd: [Hampshire] Linux support required in Sout

Re: [Hampshire] [Portsmouth LUG] Fwd: Linux support required in Southampton

Forwarded on to Hants LUG list On Thursday 29 June 2017 19:56:13 aidangc...@btinternet.com wrote: > I'd be happy to assist if I can > However:- 1)I am not back in the UK until the middle of July. 2) I have > no means of direct contact with the OP > > > Aidan > > On 29/06/

Re: Stretch--how to launch WICD, which isn't in the menu

On Monday 19 June 2017 12:09:59 Brian wrote: > On Mon 19 Jun 2017 at 11:38:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 June 2017 00:24:52 pplaw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > In Stretch, I'd like to use WICD to manage network interfaces, > > > but

Re: Stretch--how to launch WICD, which isn't in the menu

On Monday 19 June 2017 00:24:52 pplaw wrote: > Hi, > > In Stretch, I'd like to use WICD to manage network interfaces, > but when I go through what had been my usual menu with Jessie > (Programs > Applications > network > Monitoring > WICD), there's > no Monitoring > WICD. > > How do I access and,

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

On Thursday 15 June 2017 16:41:56 aconcernedfoss...@airmail.cc wrote: > Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly > violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel? It isn't that we don't care. It is that we feel helpless, which is just what Bard

[Hampshire] Talk confirned for Saturday Portsmouth and South East hants PLUG meeting

PLEASE NOTE: TALK HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. The next Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux Users Group meeting will be this coming Saturday, 17th June 2017 from 13:00 to 18:00+ in the Broad Oaks Social Club, Hilsea. http://www.portsmouth.lug.org.uk/venue.html Ian will be talking on: "Creating

[Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG meeting Saturday, 17th June 2017

The next Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux Users Group meeting will be this coming Saturday, 17th June 2017 from 13:00 to 18:00+ in the Broad Oaks Social Club, Hilsea. http://www.portsmouth.lug.org.uk/venue.html Unfortunately the talk has not yet been able to be confirmed, But I am

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

On Sunday 11 June 2017 08:16:11 Fungi4All wrote: > Below please find Lisi's answer on whether packages should be reverted or > not. !! There is nothing there - not surprising since I have never passed an opinion on any such thing. Does the version that went directly to solitone have a

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

On Saturday 10 June 2017 10:45:22 Fungi4All wrote: > UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:42 AM > From: solit...@mail.com > > On Friday, 9 June 2017 23:38:40 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > I've never downgrade using apt, but with synaptic it's not too hard, > > Hi Jimmy, and thanks for your reply. I'm under

Re: ifconfig network resolution

On Saturday 10 June 2017 21:18:42 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > My apologies in advance because I'm asking that without knowing if he > does or does not actually speak Japanese. He might be able to read > that quite well. In that case, I'm envious because that's on a #Life > to-do bucket list for me..

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

On Wednesday 07 June 2017 01:51:30 Long Wind wrote: > i can visit the web site with firefox 4 xp and android browser. the problem > is with iceweasel > > thanks anyway! > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, SDA wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind

Re: Proper sources list from Jessie > Stretch

On Sunday 04 June 2017 00:27:06 Ric Moore wrote: > On 06/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > > Sorry for the top-post but I think it is appropriate > > It is not ever appropriate, no matter what you think. Ric +1 Lisi

Re: Setting up power-off icon

On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:58:37 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 01/06/17 11:48, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:17:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> [Desktop Entry] > > [...] > > >> Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/power-button-off_318-4.jpg > >

Re: Setting up power-off icon

On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:17:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I want to set up a large power-off icon on the desktop for a user with very > poor sight. I have found a suitable icon and am now struggling with > setting up the icon on the desktop. > > Debian Jessie 8.8 with TDE 14.0.5. >

Setting up power-off icon

I want to set up a large power-off icon on the desktop for a user with very poor sight. I have found a suitable icon and am now struggling with setting up the icon on the desktop. Debian Jessie 8.8 with TDE 14.0.5. This is what I have so far: [Desktop Entry] Name=Shut_down Comment=Log out

Re: Need something similar to mate-color-select

On Friday 26 May 2017 14:09:21 Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm using Stretch with MATE desktop. > I need to chose a solid color for my background. > It is unsuitable for two reasons: > 1. The sample color display is *TOO* small. > 2. When using the color wheel an *ANNOYING* text box appears. >

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:06:44 Felix Miata wrote: > Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500): > > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100): > >> What is your graphics card? > > > > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci > > 00:02.0 VGA

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Hello, > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes > unwatchable (it starts

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Monday 22 May 2017 15:12:39 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines > and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ?? If you are installing from scratch, yes. If you are upgrading, go straight from "stable" or "jessie" to "stretch", and don't

Re: Is this sources.list correct?

On Monday 22 May 2017 21:11:48 Michael Milliman wrote: > On 05/22/2017 06:21 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > >> Original Message > >> Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct? > >> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM > >> From: compro...@list.comprofix.com > >> fjfj...@protonmail.com > >> >

[Hampshire] 3G and 4G signal at today's meeting.

"However indoor signal strength may vary." 3 Mobile is working on upgrading the signal in the BOSSC postcode from this Monday, the above is a quote from what to expect this weekend. Mystery of slightly erratic signal solved - but sorry for inconvenience. Hopefully the improvements will

[Hampshire] Further progress on projects from last month's Pi fest

I have just heard from Chris that the little Pi that was repaired is working beautifully and will be with him tomorrow for anyone that wants to see it. Also that he has done some more work on the Raspberry-Pi-television AIO so that now it runs from only one power source instead of three.

[Hampshire] Things I hope to bring to Saturday's meeting and might like help with.

Things I hope to bring to the meeting and might like help with. 1. There is my “new” netbook, at which I have so far not looked. If it has a shiny screen it will be no use to me for now, but I still don’t know whether it has. I am intending to try and install Stretch without systemd and with

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Wednesday 17 May 2017 15:57:29 G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. > > I search

[Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG meeting on Saturday

Belatedly, here is a call for the next Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux Users Group. This coming Saturday, 20th May 2017 from 13:00 to 18:00+ in the Broad Oaks Social Club, Hilsea. I haven't managed to get anything specific arranged, but that makes it an ideal opportunity for an

Re: how to copy files

On Sunday 14 May 2017 21:57:35 Long Wind wrote: > I have a folder in hard drive and a backup of it is made in a USB disk > Now some new files are added to the folder in hard drive > how to make the folder in USB disk the same as in hard drive? > > I want a program that can check the two folders >

Re: How to run Debian from SD card but booting from USB stick?

On Thursday 11 May 2017 21:58:09 Richard Owlett wrote: > > FromSD) and I'm wondering if it > > will work for Debian. > > Your URL is garbled. I tried some quick fixes but didn't work. Works fine for me. :-/ Lisi

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Monday 08 May 2017 00:45:34 Michael Milliman wrote: > Many people also run Experimental > (Sid) for the benefit of bleeding-edge versions of software, but a lot > of instability (in all senses of the word). No, Sid is not the same as Experimental. Sid is Unstable. Then there is also

Re: Only root can write on USB disk

On Thursday 04 May 2017 16:22:46 Mostafa Shahverdy wrote: > > In my /etc/fstab, I add lines for the drives and put 'user' in the > > options: > > > > LABEL= auto noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 > > I played with fstab as far as I could, and still no luck. It is still > owned by root. I also found

Re: Alternative for printer-driver-cups-pdf?

On Tuesday 02 May 2017 19:04:55 Felix Natter wrote: > I tried renaming the file to freeplane.ps, and get the same result when > viewing with evince ;-) Renaming is generally a waste of time in Linux, which looks at the file not the file extension. You are thinking of Another OS. ;-) Lisi

Re: converting my local site to be https only access

On Monday 01 May 2017 01:19:21 david...@freevolt.org wrote: > Development of lynx continues unabated: > > http://invisible-island.net/lynx/lynx-develop.html The most recent reference seems to be to 2015: "Finally (as of 2015) " Lisi

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wednesday 26 April 2017 15:36:36 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>> For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link

[Hampshire] PLUG Easter meeting addendum

The end got missed off that: Aidan Cole then gave us a very interesting talk on sshfs. The slides will soon go up on the web. Thank you Aidan, and sorry for the delay. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire

[Hampshire] PLUG Easter meeting

Here is my report on the Raspberry Pi Fest at the Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux User Group meeting on Saturday 15 April 2017, Easter Saturday. I would be grateful for corrections and offered re-writes before I put it up on the web. We had a lively and enjoyable session. Four

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

On Saturday 04 March 2017 13:32:28 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 03, 2017 02:53:26 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > Because hitting New means you have to put in the To address, but hitting > > Reply means the address is already there and you can just start typing > > your message (and

[Hampshire] ADMIN: Help with speakers - and other help - needed for Portsmouth and SE Hants LUG meetings

I was going to make my plea simultaneously with telling all those of you who missed it about our very interesting meeting last week. But life has caught up with me again, and it is probably already too late to plead with someone to help with a speaker for May. But please, people. Many of you

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Tuesday 18 April 2017 15:55:25 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > If you Lisi revisit this and it doesn't work, I could try to help. Thanks, Jonathan. I may therefore revisit it later this week! :-) Lisi

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

On Monday 17 April 2017 23:04:57 Richard Owlett wrote: > Please note my usage of "criterion" rather than "criteria". Sorry Richard. I would certainly have noted if you hadn't. It would have screamed at me. I'm afraid that I don't always notice in passing when words are used correctly! Nor

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Monday 17 April 2017 17:28:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Ron Bales: > > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in > > This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! > > Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the book > to avoid responding to criticism.

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Monday 17 April 2017 17:25:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Political > responsibility lies on the organization to respond to criticism or allow > it to rest as valid and unanswered. You seem to labour under the delusion that there is an organisation called "Debian", which could, if it wished,

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Sunday 16 April 2017 15:12:14 Ron Bales wrote: > Why do you not include the drivers for RTL8111 I have not used Mint for > years because the network never worked I found the drivers and installed > them but way to much trouble I was getting ready to give up for good and > found the instructions

Re: Almost all gpg2 operations hang after upgrade to stretch/testing

On Thursday 06 April 2017 19:41:15 Richard Owlett wrote: > I've been avoiding Google for personal reasons and using DuckDuckGo > instead. DuckDuckGo does not return that page - I'd assumed the two > search engines were equally productive. No, they are not. That is why some of us sadly use Google

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Wednesday 12 April 2017 23:42:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: >  Do I strike you > like a person needing to hold hands with anyone? Very much so. Lisi

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Wednesday 12 April 2017 20:42:37 David Wright wrote: > > If you like to contribute to my lack of understanding and possibly > > unsubstantiated criticism, help me understand the hierarchy.  Who, and > > how are they are selected, make the decisions and how do they relate to > > those that do

Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] Raspberry Jam - April 30th - Egham, Surrey

On Tuesday 11 April 2017 14:06:47 Lisi Reisz via Surrey wrote: > On Tuesday 11 April 2017 12:50:51 Martin Rowe via Surrey wrote: > > Date for your diary. Everyone welcome. > > > > Raspberry Jam - Sunday April 30th 14:00-17:00 - Gartner Offices in > > Eg

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

made their choice. Ubuntu has chosen - of course - to go where the money is. No-one cares what Richard Owlett - or Lisi Reisz - has chosen for his (her) laptop. And why should anyone? Lisi

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Sunday 09 April 2017 22:39:50 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy > > servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's > > like being forced to use a huge tractor-trailer rig with

Re: Installer: problem installing onto LVM on RAID1

On Sunday 09 April 2017 18:43:32 Ron Leach wrote: > While trying to install Debian 7.11 Why are you installing Wheezy? Lisi

Re: info

On Sunday 09 April 2017 12:14:16 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/08/2017 05:21 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 08 April 2017 23:12:15 darkestkhan wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop <domenic...@yahoo.it> wrote: > >>> hi. I am a consumer

Re: info

On Saturday 08 April 2017 23:12:15 darkestkhan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop wrote: > > hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. but how much > > confusion that us. thousand distributions thousand names. it should take > > only a name

Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth and SE Hampshire LUG meeting on Easter Saturday

Correction - but it does say Easter Saturday! On Friday 07 April 2017 23:46:28 Lisi Reisz via Hampshire wrote: > The next meeting of the Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux User > Group will be next Saturday, 15th APRIL 2017, from 13:00 to 18:00+, at > Broad Oak Sports and So

[Hampshire] Portsmouth and SE Hampshire LUG meeting on Easter Saturday

The next meeting of the Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux User Group will be next Saturday, 15th March 2017, from 13:00 to 18:00+, at Broad Oak Sports and Social Club. http://www.portsmouth.lug.org.uk/venue.html http://www.broadoaksocialclub.net/where.php We shall have our usual Bring a

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 21:26:16 Erwan David wrote: > Le 04/05/17 à 21:59, Tom Dial a écrit : > > On 04/05/2017 10:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fle

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 20:59:02 Tom Dial wrote: > On 04/05/2017 10:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > >>> I am going to have a go at getti

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I am going to have a go at getting unattended-upgrades to work sometime > > in the next few days, I will post back what my results, even if the only > > thing that

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Tuesday 04 April 2017 20:29:26 Gregor Zattler wrote: > Hi Mark, debian users, > > * Mark Fletcher [2017-04-03; 21:08]: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:04:16PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > There's another thread recently (during March, I think) on this mailing > > list

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Monday 03 April 2017 13:55:44 Michael Fothergill wrote: > I think choice in food is important - e.g. flavours of spam: > > Closed Source: > > Regular Spam Hot & Spicy Spam Jalapeño Spam Spam with Black Pepper Low [snip etc. ] > Open Source > > Systemd Spam > Openrc Spam > > etc Not all

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 21:23:21 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/1/17, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:33:08PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and &

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Saturday 01 April 2017 19:55:22 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/01/2017 06:08 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:47:06AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/14/2017 09:57 PM, Dean Valentine wrote: > >>> I have installed three operating systems on this computer:

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 18:59:48 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:33:08PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and > > helping newbies ... > > I'm not sure those two concepts are rela

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 18:11:12 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2017-03-31, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (...) > > > We are part of the same sovereign state, but 4 nations. > > When you consider some of the Irish, yes. Most Irish people live in a > d

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

On Friday 31 March 2017 22:53:00 kAt wrote: > As there is a domination of the > industrial North and elitism against the dominated South. Not here The non-industrial white collar south-east dominates the industrial north economically. The Northern Powerhub is so far a figment of the

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

On Friday 31 March 2017 15:43:50 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I tried "aptitude install Thursday" and that failed miserably. > Then I tried with `apt-get`: same result. > > The worst part is that I get the same kinds of failures when I try > "aptitude install this Thursday" or "aptitude install next

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Friday 31 March 2017 15:15:46 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:34:26 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: > > > "t

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday before last Thursday". > > To specify the Thursday after the coming Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday after next Thursday". Great - all

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote: > This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on > Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, > rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it > right, with

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote: > In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" . "South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps). I went down to Miami for a conference."

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote: > What do you mean down?  You arrogant yankee? Don't Yankees come from the United States?? Or is Curt an expat?? Lisi

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 12:11:00 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:27:47AM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT > > (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda

Re: repairing damage to package manager

On Friday 24 March 2017 19:57:56 Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > One more O.T. observation: Debian let me do a truly dumb thing, but I > wouldn't have it any other way. :-))) +1 Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 18:25:30 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:18:31 + > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > > > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in > > >

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 17:34:58 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-24 17:13:21Z] wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > >> # dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades > > > > This is what I had missed! I have now run it. > &g

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 24/03/2017 à 09:41, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > [...] > > > Let's start with the file you mention: > > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades It isn't there. > > the Debian wiki indicates that it has to be created, e

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in the > days when I used static addresses and no DHCP, and was miffed to find I > had no network interfaces at the end of the process. Until fairly recently I have always had static IPs

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > the user > should be notified and asked whether to continue. The user *is* notified and asked whether to continue. The user is not *prevented* from continuing, should he or she be perverse enough to wish to do so. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:07:59 Richard Owlett wrote: > It might be just the ticket for some > of my minimalist experiments. ;-) It would. The other minimalist install media have mostly gone by the board. I have just checked, and amazingly LNX-BBC (Linux Bootable Business Card) and DSL

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 10:20:46 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just plain > > wrong. Catherine has been given the use cases that disprove her thesis, > > and has been

Re: Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

On Thursday 23 March 2017 04:26:17 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-22 00:37:18Z] wrote: > > How do I get unattended upgrades a) to function and b) to tell me when > > it has upgraded something. > > Probably you need to add the following lines in the top of

Re: Unattended upgrades.

Thank you for your further response. I have tried to answer your questions, which will show you that I am completely at sea. On Thursday 23 March 2017 09:03:01 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 23/03/2017 à 02:06, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it.

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:54:13 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:18:53 Catherine Gramze wrote: > >>> Mar 23, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Li

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:18:53 Catherine Gramze wrote: > >  Mar 23, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > This is of course incorrect.  But I doubt that I could refute it without > > appearing aggressive again. :-( > > What

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

My reply went initially in error to Catherine privately because she had sent a copy to me privately. I wish people would stick to teh CoC and not cc people. On Thursday 23 March 2017 18:20:39 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Steve McIntyre

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 18:03:35 Steve McIntyre wrote: > Please calm down, why the aggression? :-( Sorry. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 16:48:56 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> wrote: > > > > Catherine Gramze wrote: > >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 11:50:33 Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:07:22 +0100 > > Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Jonathan Dowland writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 08:52:46PM -0400,

Re: Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 07:42:09 didier gaumet wrote: > there is a doc in the Debian wiki: > https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it. I quote: - To install these packages, run the following command as root: # apt-get install

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 17:26:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/22/2017 10:33 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:53:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/22/2017 09:28 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Ow

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:53:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/22/2017 09:28 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> The results of the 6 installs I intended to run: > >> [the only variable being which DE related boxe

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Owlett wrote: > The results of the 6 installs I intended to run: > [the only variable being which DE related boxes checked] > [space used reported by gparted] >    1. None >       CLI installed taking ~.92 GB >    2. Only top entry checked (asking for

Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

tl:dnr: How do I get unattended upgrades a) to function and b) to tell me when it has upgraded something. With Debian unattended-upgrades installed I can't make out form Adam whether they have run. I have run: # cd /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ # cat unattended-upgrades-shutdown.log # cat

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 18:38:44 Catherine Gramze wrote: > And I specified it was the netinst about 8 posts ago, immediately in > response to you asking. And I have repeatedly since then mentioned netinst. > You might try reading what I say instead of skimming it for things to > object to. The

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 17:15:32 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad Note it is sent from an iPad! Open Source all the way! Incidentally, why did we need to know that? Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 17:15:32 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:55:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 21 Mar

Re: aptitude is dangerous - any replacement?

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:31:29 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is there any replacement? Or a way to make aptitude ignore > experimental packages? > > Note: I still want to keep experimental in my sources.list for the > cases where I *explicitly* request experimental packages. Can experimental not be

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 14:33:29 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Refusing to continue an installation that will inevitably be a failure is > how it should act. Rot. It will not "inevitably be a failure". It can be a very good way out of some problems. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:59:39 Greg Wooledge wrote: > Sure, if you *don't change the default selection*, you probably get > GNOME.  Is that what you meant by "don't actually select anything"? > Just accepting whatever the default is, without reading or changing > what's on the screen? Exactly

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