Re: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops (Larry Szendrei)

2010-05-31 Thread Jim Candela




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Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:36:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Larry Szendrei" 
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops
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As Jim says, you may be losing drive to the final grid because the drive
signal is going away. But that's not all that can go wrong. Make sure the
final grid bias resistor hasn't drifted off-tolerance or changing value as
it heats up. If it is, replace it. I have also had bad final tubes (pair
of 6146s in a DX-100) create the symptoms you describe. Originally I
thought for sure the problem was with the drive signal, but that wasn't
what it turned out to be.

73 es GL,
-Larry/NE1S

Reply by Jim, WD5JKO:

Adding to what Larry says, it could be that the 6146 is running too hot. By hot 
I mean the filament voltage is too high, and a fragment of the cathode oxide 
has detached and landed on the control grid. If this is the case, with RF 
excitation, the fragment gets hot and becomes an electron emitter which will 
cause the grid current to gradually drop, and then reverse. This happens 
frequently with the 4D32. With the 4D32, lowering the filament voltage from 
7'ish to around 6 volts usually makes the tube behave better. I've not seen 
this with the 6146, but it could happen, especially when running a vintage BA 
at today's higher AC line voltage.

Jim
WD5JKO
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Re: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Szendrei
As Jim says, you may be losing drive to the final grid because the drive
signal is going away. But that's not all that can go wrong. Make sure the
final grid bias resistor hasn't drifted off-tolerance or changing value as
it heats up. If it is, replace it. I have also had bad final tubes (pair
of 6146s in a DX-100) create the symptoms you describe. Originally I
thought for sure the problem was with the drive signal, but that wasn't
what it turned out to be.

73 es GL,
-Larry/NE1S

> Brian the final is losing drive from the driver/buffer/VFO.  Check all
> tubes first then if that doesn't fix it you will be troubleshooting
> under the chassis to find out what components may be changing value.
>
> Jim/W5JO
>
>> My Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops after a couple of minutes and
>> will keep dropping more rapidly as I increase drive level. Eventually
>> the tube plates glow red. I am tuning by the book.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> 73
>> Brian
>

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Re: [AMRadio] Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops

2010-05-27 Thread Jim Wilhite
Brian the final is losing drive from the driver/buffer/VFO.  Check all 
tubes first then if that doesn't fix it you will be troubleshooting 
under the chassis to find out what components may be changing value.

Jim/W5JO


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> My Heathkit DX-60 grid current drops after a couple of minutes and 
> will keep dropping more rapidly as I increase drive level. Eventually 
> the tube plates glow red. I am tuning by the book.
> Any ideas?
>
> 73
> Brian

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