Re: [apple-crop] Senescence

I'm sure someone more knowledgable than me will post something for you, but my gut feeling is that this timing could vary from variety to variety and even from tree to tree. I use NDemand 30 from Wilber Ellis. Some of these products might stain fruit and may have a waiting period. Good luck and

Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO

Chiranjit, Have a look at this: http://www.starkbros.com/products/fruit-trees/apple-trees/cinnamon-spice-apple;jsessionid=F08D8AD63301D097ABB21FAA61AA9F54 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar parmarch_...@dataone.in wrote: Dear all, I am told that there is a variety of

Re: [apple-crop] Maine Voices: Backers of GMO labeling unthinkingly buy conspiracy-based arguments

A lot of h*ypocondriacts* involved with this movement. They sense something is wrong, so they blame food, the weather, chemicals, etc. The real problem is the lack of rational thinking. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jon Clements jon.cleme...@umass.eduwrote: Well, Art, I would normally

Re: [apple-crop] Stone fruit trunk painting

I use 1 part interior latex paint with 3 parts water and a cheap Ace Hardware hand 2 gallon sprayer (about $13, $9.99 on sale). I spray the southeast side first (walking quickly down the rows) and then the southwest side next. I sprayed 1100 trees (1/2 caliper) this way in 4-5 hours. Toss the

Re: [apple-crop] Stone fruit trunk painting

Pity you guys back East with the humidity and night heat. We are mid 80's -90F here in Western Montana and have 30-40 F temp drops at night with no dew at the moment. 3500 ft elevation with the Rocky Mountain air. I grew up in Florida and do not miss the humid and hot nights. I haven't needed

Re: [apple-crop] Paraquat

. ** ** Sorry about the blank spaces, I removed two pictures to make the file smaller. ** ** Tim Smith WSU-Wenatchee, WA ** ** ** ** *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08

[apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

Does anyone have any experience with the winter hardiness of M9-Nic29 rootstock? ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

., 2013, at 15:12, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Gary. If you have any Honeycrisp on Bud 9 please let me know. Looking for 1400 trees 1/2 inch or better if possible... Hugh Thomas 406-214-8461 hughthoma...@gmail.com On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Gary Snyder g...@c

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

Tim, Any observations / knowledge / experience with Bud 9 during the cold snap of 2010? On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Smith, Timothy J smit...@wsu.edu wrote: R: winter hardiness of Nic29 /M9: ** ** The common problem in the inland Pacific Northwest isn’t often from classic, low

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

** ** *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:54 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness ** ** Tim, Any observations

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

/ronald-perry/Rootstocks-for-Honeycrisp2.pdf ** ** Vincent ** ** On 24oct., 2013, at 16:39, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote:*** * My concerns are winter damage. In the last 80 years here in Western Montana, temps have been recorded to -33F. -20 F is almost

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

The successful grower I met in Washington irrigates Bud 9 every 5 days. This is under-tree sprinkler irrigation. I do the same and water 1 - 1.5 with each irrigation every five days on average in the summer. If the weather is really hot, say 95F everyday, then I might shorten that to every 4

Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock

. Planting 3-4 feet apart is running into some crowding issues. They have been precocious, but I would plant them 5-6 ft. apart using a vertical axis type training. Trees I believe have come from Cameron Nursery. Jon On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.comwrote: In my

Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock

-1256leslie.huff...@ontario.ca ** ** *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.netapple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* October-30-13 2:47 PM *To:* Jon Clements; Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management

Rich, I'm curious about your location and elevation. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Rich Everett reofar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a couple acres of honey crisp on different root stock and I'd tell anyone that the tree is difficult to grow, susceptible to many diseases from powdery mildew

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management

anyone have experience with this. Steven Bibula *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 12:52 AM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management

...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 1:24 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management Steven, Sorry for my ignorance, but why use interstems? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management

Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 10:06 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management Makes sense to me now. I've read that Bud 118 doesn't need support. A question I've always had is, Why is it important to not cut the leader

Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock

market compared to other apple trees. There is no doubt it's a good fresh apple for eating and as I mentioned it was not a favorite for juice as compared to our 17 other varieties… I'm selling a 22 rack and cloth press if anyone is interested? On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma

Re: [apple-crop] back up cameras for spray rig

Russell, I don't know about your specific questions, however, I was a commercial photographer for 20 years. I can tell you that rear tractor lights pointing towards the trees being sprayed will be very important. They will need to adjusted to achieve a partial glare angle so that light bouncing

Re: [apple-crop] back up cameras for spray rig

You guys must have plenty of dough. Another way is to employ a camera on a remote controlled helicopter. This can be controlled by a smart phone. Some of these have GPS and I assume can be programed with a route. SEE: http://www.atlantahobby.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=18034idcategory= On

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp prices

I bet less than 15% of households have heard of Honeycrisp. When I go to the store, I make it a point to ask customers in the produce section about Honeycrisp. Most have never heard of it. If those who have, about 50% say it is a very good apple or it is their favorite apple. One man told me that

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp prices

Bill, On elevation - I was talking to a big name guy in apple research when I attended the hort show and Honeycrisp Experience in Washington recently. I asked him about our elevation here in Montana (3500') and the effect of temperature drops of 40-50 degrees every night in the summer. His

Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp prices

* *Western Ag Research Center* *580 Quast Lane* *Corvallis, MT 59828* *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:40 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple

Re: [apple-crop] Peach question

see this: It is called callus tissue (undifferentiated cells). It is not a fungus, bacteria or other type of disease. It is naturally occurring, and it is not harmful. It can be safely eaten along with the rest of the peach.

Re: [apple-crop] Tall spindle trellis

Seems to me, that they could basically be as long as you want them to be. I would calculate the fuel capacity of my tractors so that one doesn't run out of fuel before getting back... On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Fleming, William w...@exchange.montana.eduwrote: We had rows 2200 feet long

[apple-crop] Stink Bug News

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2014/02/26/stinkbugs-winter-cold-nation-insects-animals-science/ ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop

Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

, and I can spray 1000 trees in 3-4 hours. I walk the rows on the S.E. side and then the S.W. side. I use the Ace Hardware sprayer on sale for $9.99 (reg 12.99) and just toss the sprayer after the job is done. Hugh Thomas Stevensville, MT On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, kuffelcr

Re: [apple-crop] Apple Bloom and Crop Potential

to four wires. The wires did little to prevent the snapping of the graft union. From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [apple-crop-bounces@ virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Hugh Thomas [hughthoma...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:09 PM

[apple-crop] Bud 118

Next spring, I'm thinking of planting Honeycrisp on Bud 118 with a 4x12 spacing. Anyone with any ideas or critical remarks on this would be appreciated. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net

Re: [apple-crop] Bud 118

with their vigor. It took them about 6 years to calm down, and I've had to do some heavy pruning to contain their growth. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Next spring, I'm thinking of planting Honeycrisp on Bud 118 with a 4x12 spacing. Anyone with any ideas

Re: [apple-crop] Honeycrisp on bud 118

Keven, I meant to address my last email to you. I have silt loam, holds a little more water a little longer than sandy loam, but the one 118 I have here on our property is doing very well. What is your opinion on the sandy loam angle, faster drainage? On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Hugh Thomas

Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

I've tried many products and most of the ones mentioned in this thread. Liquid Fence = Ranch Dressing. Dried Blood is deer code for Merlot. Here in Montana, if a deer is hungry, he will eat anything. I finally put in an eight foot high tensile fence. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:59 AM,

Re: [apple-crop] Narrow Tall Spindle Layout

I have only two years experience with this, but I'll give my opinion. A lot depends on your rootstock. A dwarf rootstock such as Bud 9 seems to do well at 11 ft. spacing on the rows. I have seen 9 ft. Bud 9 that hampered light penetration. I have Bud 9 trees planted 30 inches x 12 feet and I

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

There is a lot of labor involved with the production of apples. For US growers to be competitive, this implies that the price of labor will have to fall here in the US or the cost of labor in China will need to rise. (not likely) Another factor is the cost of fumigation.(?) Shipping is not a real

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

The only Western country without a minimum wage is Switzerland. The unemployment rate there is 3%. A huge problem here in the US is that we pay people not to work (unemployment checks) and have a minimum wage. If the growers in China were forced to pay our wage rates, then there would be little

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

There are many PhD's in economics, some with Nobel Prizes, that agree minimum wage laws and unemployment benefits drive up the cost of production. This is so easy to see that it is amazing anyone would think differently. If minimum wage laws do not create unemployment, why not raise it to $100 per

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

/ On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:35 AM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: There are many PhD's in economics, some with Nobel Prizes, that agree minimum wage laws and unemployment benefits drive up the cost of production. This is so easy

Re: [apple-crop] theft deterrence

This is a crime in some states. Find out about your state/local laws and inform your customers that you will enforce this law. I don't think this will drive away any customers, at least the kind you want to keep. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com wrote: A few

Re: [apple-crop] research on suckering?

Steven, This is off point, but as an aside, I have found suckers (Bud 9) to weaken when sprayed with the herbicide Chaparral. This is a pre emergent but is labeled for suckers on apple. The effect is a severe weakening of the sucker roots and they are very easy to pull a couple of weeks after the

Re: [apple-crop] research on suckering?

Hi everyone, By mistake I made the comment that Chaparral was effective against apple suckers, I should have said, Chateau is effective. Sorry about the mix-up... On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: David, My Chaparral label does mention apple. I don't

Re: [apple-crop] research on suckering?

, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, By mistake I made the comment that Chaparral was effective against apple suckers, I should have said, Chateau is effective. Sorry about the mix-up... On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com

Re: [apple-crop] lightning

My sister in Ohio recently told me that a local orchard near her tried using wires like yours ( I have a tresses system here in Montana) and had lighting kill a lot of their trees. Must be something to it... On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com wrote: Anyone know

Re: [apple-crop] How to excise malus seeds

Try a rock tumbler. This is a small rotary drum that is rubber lined. You can add the seed plus a grit, say silicon carbide or sand. Basically, the thing turns and the seeds will wear away in time. Might only take a few minutes or may take a day or two. I'm thinking the 120/220 grit would work

Re: [apple-crop] How to excise malus seeds

P.S. Forgot to mention that you and then separate the seeds from the grit with a kitchen strainer. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: Try a rock tumbler. This is a small rotary drum that is rubber lined. You can add the seed plus a grit, say silicon

Re: [apple-crop] non-GMO non-browning apples

Also this one... http://www.apples.umn.edu/SnowSweet/index.htm On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Fleming, William w...@montana.edu wrote: Braeburn and Cortland are also non-browning. Bill Fleming Montana State University Western Ag Research Center 580 Quast Lane Corvallis, MT 59828

Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

Understanding GMO is like understanding weather, there is a lot of superstition involved. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Ginda Fisher l...@ginda.us wrote: If it makes you feel any better, that number is likely significantly overstated. I have two Facebook accounts. Dead people and pets have

Re: [apple-crop] Employee vs. Contract labor

I would check with a labor attorney. “Contract labor” has been used by businesses as a ruse to skirt the requirements for matching Social Security, report injuries, avoid paying workman’s comp, etc. I went through this thing in the 1990’s and found that “contract labor” is loophole that has a

Re: [apple-crop] Employee vs. Contract labor

, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Mark Helen Angermayer angermay...@gmail.com wrote: Wanted to thank everyone of the comments on this discussion. Definitely gave me some guidance. Mark Angermayer Tubby Fruits Peach Orchard Bucyrus KS On 4/9/15, Hugh Thomas hughthoma...@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [apple-crop] apple size

I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large disk. Just a thought... On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas wrote: > > > Art: > > I don’t know whence the observations or measurements have > come, but I saw a rootstock

[apple-crop] Bill Fleming

I don't know how many of you guys know this, but Bill Fleming died last October here in Corvallis, Montana. Bill was a super person, a good friend and had a wealth of knowledge about apples, wheat and everything in between. He was the farm manager at the Montana State University experimental

Re: [apple-crop] apple size

(Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock >>> to be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit. >>> Still have to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a >>> heartbeat if I want Jonagold. >>> >>> Did you hear New England Apple

Re: [apple-crop] Freeze/Frost Damage

Hope it works out. How about using a helicopter for the copper sprays? Three days ago - snow in the Caribbean Islands! http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/04/03/never-before-seen-spring-snowfall-in-the-caribbean-islands-colorado-ski-resort-snowiest-in-50-years-snow-chaos-in-germany/ On Tue, Apr 5,

[apple-crop] Research

A couple of ideas for you PhD/research types. How about using UV light to kill frost nucleating bacteria, or UV to kill the fire blight bacteria? A light bank could be towed behind a tractor and the trees could be irradiated by UV light. ___ apple-crop