Hugh, I have some honeys on bud 118 at 4 ft apart and it's working well. I have 
sandy loam soil so that's the only reason it's working. Return bloom hasn't 
been spectacular so I really think more dwarfing stocks are the way to go or 
maybe simply blossom thinning would be the answer? This year I put them in on 
g202 so hopefully the smaller apple it produces will help with bitter pit. We 
did lose 51 trees to bud union failure before we even got them out of the box. 
It sounds like g41 offers the best return bloom similar to g30 which is the 
best I've seen.

Kevin J. VerSnyder
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