Re: [apple-crop] management advice for hail damaged orchard?

2015-07-09 Thread Win Cowgill
Jon-First Strep within 12 hours for trama blight phase of Fireblight.
Then after calling my crop insurace agent and having it declared 100% loss with 
no crop sale potential I would look to protec thte trees from disease.

If there is no hope for fruit sales!  I would do a good rate of copper/Manzate 
to make sure all fireblight shoot blight is shut down. Manzate has a 77day phi 
so no fruit sales if applied now.

I would do several periodic applications of capatan/ziram to ensure that no 
rots develope in the wood, shoots, trunks- ie black rot, white rot or necteria 
canker which can get established- the copper will help with the necteria canker.

Win
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On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Jon Clements jon.cleme...@umass.edu wrote:

 Hi everyone, what would you suggest is good management advice for a 100% hail 
 damage (per crop insurance) orchard. Minimal fungicide and insecticide every 
 few weeks? What about taking the damaged fruit off? Recommended, or does it 
 make a difference? If we should take it off, how?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Jon
 
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 aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
 UMass Cold Spring Orchard
 393 Sabin St.
 Belchertown, MA  01007
 413-478-7219
 umassfruit.com
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[apple-crop] management advice for hail damaged orchard?

2015-07-09 Thread Jon Clements
Hi everyone, what would you suggest is good management advice for a 100%
hail damage (per crop insurance) orchard. Minimal fungicide and insecticide
every few weeks? What about taking the damaged fruit off? Recommended, or
does it make a difference? If we should take it off, how?

Thanks.

Jon

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aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
UMass Cold Spring Orchard
393 Sabin St.
Belchertown, MA  01007
413-478-7219
umassfruit.com
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Re: [apple-crop] management advice for hail damaged orchard?

2015-07-09 Thread Arthur Kelly
Is it PYO, retail, or to be packed?  A lot depends on the juice market so
you would want to prevent as much rot as possible.   For the crop insurance
what matters is production to count.  An apple with enough hail damage to
knock it out of U.S. Fcy doesn't count.  If it is thinned off it doesn't
count either.  The crop insurance appraisal work sheet will end up with
bu/acre to count.  So, if there is 10% of the crop that makes U.S. Fcy or
better after a hail event it is the same as a frost event that leaves 10%
of a crop.  This is the effect of trying to remove the damaged fruit.
Technically no appraisal can be done until all thinning is complete
though.  Also an insured is expected to care for the crop so there is no
further damage although if it adjusts to 100% damage now I don't see how it
can get worse.

Art Kelly
Kelly Orchards
Acton, ME

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Jon Clements jon.cleme...@umass.edu
wrote:

 Hi everyone, what would you suggest is good management advice for a 100%
 hail damage (per crop insurance) orchard. Minimal fungicide and insecticide
 every few weeks? What about taking the damaged fruit off? Recommended, or
 does it make a difference? If we should take it off, how?

 Thanks.

 Jon

 --
 Jon Clements
 aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
 UMass Cold Spring Orchard
 393 Sabin St.
 Belchertown, MA  01007
 413-478-7219
 umassfruit.com

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Re: [apple-crop] management advice for hail damaged orchard?

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Philion
Hi!


If there is no hope for fruit sales!  I would do a good rate of copper/Manzate 
to make sure all fireblight shoot blight is shut down. Manzate has a 77day phi 
so no fruit sales if applied now.

Not sure manzate/copper would be of any value for FB. Strep within hours after 
the storm is good.


I would do several periodic applications of capatan/ziram to ensure that no 
rots develope in the wood, shoots, trunks- ie black rot, white rot or necteria 
canker which can get established- the copper will help with the necteria canker.


I would guess that within hours/days wood wounds would not be susceptible for 
any more pathogen infection. So why would periodic sprays be needed?

Vincent Philion
IRDA
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