Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-19 Thread Kevin Carson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Post-modern liberalism didn't spring full-blown into being like Athena from the forehead of Zeus. It evolved rather over time from classical liberalism through several fairly-distinct phases. You're right on this. But it might be more accurate to say that at any given

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-18 Thread Kevin Carson
-business forces have won consistently. But in fact, it is a case of Brer Rabbit hollering Please don't fling me in that briar patch! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:58:42 EDT I

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-18 Thread Kevin Carson
From: Bryan Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Carson wrote: I'd say just the opposite, that SS is an important component of state capitalism; and like most regulations and welfare spending, it serves to cartelize the economy. By acting through the state to organize pension programs, the large

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-18 Thread AdmrlLocke
Post-modern liberalism didn't spring full-blown into being like Athena from the forehead of Zeus. It evolved rather over time from classical liberalism through several fairly-distinct phases. In the earliest stages of progressivism people still by and large believed in free markets and

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-17 Thread AdmrlLocke
I would agree that not every government infringement of liberty warrants the label socialist, although on a larger level a rose by any other name still has thorns. It's ironic, however, that Tom chose pension reform as an example to illustrate the point that not all government infringement of

RE: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-17 Thread Grey Thomas
the rich! Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 June, 2003 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon I would agree that not every government infringement of liberty warrants the label socialist

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-17 Thread AdmrlLocke
Thanks for the clarification Tom. I do agree that government money, as it predates socialism, probably doesn't rightly fall under the category of socialism. I wonder though if most folks would agree that social security is socialism. Americans don't like to admit that they like socialism.

RE: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon -- pension reform

2003-06-17 Thread Grey Thomas
) and second pillars. A full second pillar includes forced savings, which becomes the property of the individual. And a third, IRA type optional pillar, which would reduce the basic benefits in some 1:2 proportion. Tom Subject: Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon Thanks for the clarification Tom

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-13 Thread Marc . Poitras
Well, the average American is not so pro-freedom as, say, Walter Williams, but considerably more so than the average Frenchman or German. So it's all relative. By the way, contrary to Kinsley's assertion, wage and price controls were not merely a cynical re-election ploy. There was a real

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-13 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Well, the average American is not so pro-freedom as, say, Walter Williams, but considerably more so than the average Frenchman or German. Really? How do you measure this? The remarkable fact is that it is apparently perfectly legal for the government in the United States to control the price

Re: Wage-Price Controls Under Nixon

2003-06-13 Thread Marc . Poitras
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