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How can I remove an IP from the BlackPB that got there by accident
due to
some testing I did wrong?
Did you try the edit button?
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I've got some odd mail that seems to get through ASSP untouched even
though
when I plug it into the analyzer it confirms that it should have been
caught by my bombre. The odd part is that
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Maybe fritz would be willing to add that to the 'master' code along
with
a check box to turn it on/off?
ME retracted the modifications he made and promised a new version. I
never got one.
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Its because of the SPF spec. ASSP currently only honors pass or fail.
I now honors softfail and neutral
1.2.4 (5)
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You're variation of my code didn't work on my Win32 box. Here's the
error(s):
try again
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Fritz, any ideas? )))
I will not touch SPF. If you want changes in SPF , do it.
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Isn't a redlist a whitelist that doesn't add to the corpus?
No.
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I can understand the misconception in comparison to white listing
functionality, but no - red listing does not perform corpus removals.
I can not understand, because the redlist prevents adresses from
entering the whitelist.
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I much prefer the validation approach
What is in the validation approach more than we have today?
All modules are checked, routines will not run, if modules are not
available.
I personally
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Am I reading this correctly? A ham message was blocked and a spam
message
was whitelisted, because of an non-existent npRE file?
It was blocked by Noprocessing RE: '', because files , which are
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I took a look at the source and noticed that it references triplets
when talking about normal entries in the DelayDb and it references
tuplets when talking about whitelisted entries in the
So one contains triplets and the other tuplets?
This is slightly confusing.
why?
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Is there some difference i'm just not understanding?
The difference is that one file contains tuplets and the other file
contains triplets.
net-rblclient (Note: to look up IP's against RBL's)
*NOT* part of the installation.
I really do not understand what is going on here!
The modules which are necessary are:
Compress::Zlib NEEDED - Standard Perl installation
Digest::MD5 NEEDED - Standard Perl installation
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So if someone is removed from the WhiteList via the email interface
they will be RedListed automatically?
yes, if
Suppress automatic adding to redlist
is not set
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Ahh!!! That's right! I can't believe I still have that listed in my
script. At least it doesn't hurt anything. Thanks for the reminder
Fritz...
And netaddr-ip is also NOT part of the
any ideas ?
Your mailserver was down, simple as that.
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Something is wrong then. Check your logs, turn on debug, and verify
what is happening during your test.
Micheal, I really do not know, what you are talking.
The Redlist/Redre conrols unwanted
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The redlist is for addresses you always want to be processed no
matter what?
Redlisted email DO contribture to the spam folder?
I will repeat it again: the redlist/redre will prevent unwanted
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Though it is sad, i would have liked it to do what we thought it did.
(did that make sense?)
What do you think, the redlist/redre should do?
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I especially like the split of the BombRe functionality to now have
separate analysis between the header and body!
It is not working, I do not know, why not. Would be nice, if somebody
would
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I even tried changing the Bayesian Non Spam option to 6. Incoming
mail
was not discarded. It still saved to the notspam folder.
Bayesian Non Spam means messages with message ok. That is a
Can we all agree that ASSP is lacking a needed feature here?
No.
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Nope. Still getting the same thing:
I already told the poster in the help-forum that we will not change
ASSP, because of his own theory of what a proxy is. In his setup he is
blocking assp on 127.0.0.1 to his mailserver.
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Whitelisted senders don't get the mailok status... right? If yes, I
assume that whitelisted incoming emails are saved to the notspam
folder?
yes
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thanks Fritz for your response. But it's not for verify spam, but
notspam, I
already use copyallspam for analyse the spams. If I use an expression
with
WhiteRe
But there is also copy all ham.
I have this errors :
sorry , try again
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Find somebody to write the code. It is nothing I would built into
ASSP, but if somebody is willing...
i will implement it.
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t's not that the check isn't run - the result is ignored and the
message is allowed past a function that would have normally blocked
it.
The result *is not* ignored, the *only* thing which is
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Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't mean to apply being ignored
from processing - only from being blocked. Poor choice of words
considering functions that *do* ignore.
But you wrote also:
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Note: I did *not* claim to discover the vulnerability - only that it
has been known for some time and that I was aware of it. I did
however
post a detailed write-up of the issue to the
We were discussing it on the list yesterday, under the subject -
ASSP security, adding to Gentoo Portage.
Yesterday? But you wrote here in your post only that it
has been known for some time and that I was aware of it.
The protection is in place in 1.2.5 (4) again.
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but I don't think it was on the
list. I had absolutely no Perl experience back then, and I had
completely forgot about it until it came up yesterday.
But the problem did not exist until
An example on *nix would be the /etc/passwd file.
http://127.0.0.1:5/get?file=/etc/passwd;
Please test version 1.2.5
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Like Fink or DarwinPorts, but for Perl modules?
I installed my modules in less than an hour using the standard
procedure for mac osx:
sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell
install Net::LDAP
install ...
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The problem is that someone sending mail to our organization looks at
the MX record and sees cacweb
The mx record should not point to the proxy, but to the mailserver.
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But of course, it is just an opinion :)
If you like the idea, I can make the changes on 1.2.5(5) and
pass it to you so you give a look at it.
Regards!
Javier Albinarrate
Would it be to much to ask you to pass the changes to me?
ASSP 1.2.4 is ready to be published. We hold it back to built in the
security patch.
So it is currently available as 1.2.5 (6) and will be renamed to 1.2.4
final. Please test this version.
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1.2.5(6) stops the functioning of the notes files.
Thanks, try (7)
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Im trying to figure out this whole Bayes-Confidence thing. But, Im
a little confused as to why this message got marked as spam (it
should have been a HAM). Maybe Im not understanding
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Yes, now I see it with IE. After collapse all, 'Attachment Control'
is the final item before the
links to docs etc.. Open that up and the rest are visible, including
the apply changes and
Although, if possible, I think it would be
safer to restrict access to specific file types. We just need an
accurate list.
Please stop this shit.
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Line 8396 has a typo: RBLmaxhitss
Not from me.
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Frankly I think it would be fine to just limit ASSP to it's own
directory and sub-folders.
That will be restored.
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Stop what shit Fritz? *You cant current open the PB DB's via the web
interface*. We are discussion a resolution. Or are we no longer
allowed to do that?
You are not discussing a resolution,
That will be restored.
I think most of it is now corrected in (10).
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I think most of it is now corrected in (10).
It is now corrected in (11).
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It is now corrected in (11).
The following rules apply now:
- '..' unallowed everywhere
- Edit of files in ASSP directory OR upper directories allowed only
for
'.txt' and '.db' files. This to block accessing to other info at the
assp
directory, like assp.pl or even the config etc
- Get of
sudo perl /Applications/assp-1/assp.pl assp-1
the last assp-1 has to be the full path to the dir.
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Is the 'Base' config parameter only for cases where you want to have
things at a deeper level in the assp folder? Just wondering why
altering the 'base' did not work in assp.cfg, but did from
Outgoing: Macallen:25==ASSP:25==Internet
this is not possible.
Outgoing: ASSP:25==Macallen:25==Internet
this is possible
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So, what do you think? I
Setup Another Listen Port to 587 and use SMTP Auth Destination.
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Also accessing the MTA directly for outbound emails, is more
efficient, because I don't have ASSP dealing with those SMTP sessions.
There are other reasons as well.
So to make it short, I don't want to change the way they
access, I
want to make the current way work.
The most
Why isn't all the developer discussion on that list like it used to
be?
When was that?
When I tried to revive the ASSP project in January, there was not even
traffic in this list. And the developer list was dead for several
monthes.
Changelog 1.2.4
changelog
1.2.3-1.2.4
smtpReportServer -
I don't see that in my diff of 1.2.3- 1.2.4.
5952,5953d5874
$skipLog=1 if ($this-{red});
$this-{red}=;
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Are they for notes of settings tried and a change log for users
OR
Is the project intending to fill them with more detailed config info,
such
as suggested settings, expanded info on what each
What steps can I take to troubleshoot this?
Show us the log.
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Only bombre is left I'm afraid. That's the next one to disable...
With dobombre = 0 the mail is considered bayesian spam and ASSP keeps
running just fine.
Is there an easy way to check individual RE's ? Or where should I look
further?
Remove the last additions. I remember some regex here some
I've noticed it you restart assp from the commandline, and there is a
bad regex, assp spews the entire regex file at you. One way to tell if
it is that badly formed.
That would be an error in the regex.
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Are all of them not behaving correctly? Those regex were actually
catching a lot of spam and it's a pity I have to remove them...
You could help in testing them by adding one after the other.
What am I missing on this MX/A validation issue?
If you do not know, what missing MX/A record means, deactivate the
check.
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I'm using 'Use Subject as Maillog Names', I think, the files in \spam
and
\notspam have the subject as the file name. I have 'Max Files' set to
14009
but for some reason I have over 67,000 files in the notspam
directory. I've
tried changing the max files number and it has made no difference.
With my volumes and spam profile I prefer to manually remove the
older ones first in the belief
that helps to keep the bayesian lists more up-to-date. Number
overwriting is effectively random,
so doen't achieve that.
Paul
Whatever you like, but it would be very easy for ASSP to overwrite the
That's odd - all my text files for ASSP are edited and saved in UNIX
files.
I think, he converted to windows-files.
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That is exactly, what Penalty Box is doing.
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So what I need is:
Tool that grabs the IP from the user that sends email to spamtrap.
Block this IP.
Remove this IP after 24-48h.
Can this be done with making use of assp WITHOUT having to regenerate
the spamdb?
best regards,
Pascal
That is exactly, what Penalty Box is doing.
Set all values
Virus definitions loaded
You are right, sorry. Try the latest one.
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Is att.com in your whitelist?
Yes,
I'll remove it when I get into work and check again.
Domains will be matched from the right. So if att.com is in your list,
it will match @gcwyatt.com. Putt @ in front of att.com.
if memory helps when a whitelisted user send an email with CC all
addresses
get added to whitelist.
In 1.2.x that can be controlled by two settings:
Only local or authenticated users contribute to the whitelist.
Normal operation allows all local, authenticated, or whitelisted users
to add to
nothing strange but I was reading that the listed domains should
start with
an @ symbol to prevent domains containing the letters from getting
through
I said, that the match is done from right to left. So a.com will
match meta.com, beta.com (you get the idea). To prevent that, you
define the
I installed the program last week and been running it for 11 days now
in test mode. Everything not whitelisted is considered spam even
legit mail. Does anyone have any idea what can be done to make the
system less sensetive?
I would deactivate Bayesian Filter for the first days or weeks
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Haven't seen this before. Is it something with beta 16, or have a
changed a configuration option?
Beta 16 allows secondary smtp servers in server destination. The line
is included as part of
The mail flow should then be:
Inbound: Internet - ASSP - Postfix - mailserver1,2,3
Outbound: mailserver1,2,3 - ASSP - Postfix - Internet
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You should use a gateway-smtp for this. Internet-ASSP-GW-SMTP.
The gateway can deliver then to the different servers.
ASSP is a proxy and does not know about the domain early enough.
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ok, is there any software out there which would make this work
correctly
so that email for non existent address are not accepted.
Every smtp-server with routing cappabilities will do. ASSP can very
well check all addresses - I do not understand, what you are asking.
Since we run on Windows boxes we had to come up with a different
solution.
I run the same configuration in Mac OSX. I do not understand, why
somebody need several instances of ASSP for routing.
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I have an external email address that some of our users are receiving
good emails from (and they also send mail to this address). However,
this address is also being used by spammers. I removed
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Devin Carraway has written a plugin for the Perl-based MTA qpsmtpd to
compare domains from message body URIs to SURBL domain lists. Here's
his
announcement on perl.qpsmtpd, and a link to his
I *highly* recommend using your redRe to weed out personal emails
that people send from polluting your corpus. To give an example: I
don't allow any messages that have been forwarded (fw|fwd): to enter
my corpus. I found via observation that 75% was garbage and added
no value to the corpus.
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Just a small question - when you say more sources what do you mean?
A message of 2 has roughly 5 times the number of words compared to
a message of 4000. 5 messages of 4000 gives you the
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So it seemed to me there was way to much
variety in the spamdb. For instance, one email got blocked because it
had the word product in it. Another for some other harmless word.
That cannot
is it possible to bypass the filtering of the tlsstart from assp with
the no processing feature ?
no. The filtering of tlsstart happens during the smtp protocoll.
The solution for this type of problem is normally to use a different
port like 587 for bypassing ASSP.
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Fritz, I don't see this in the (19) I just downloaded. Some other
chabges, yes.
ErrorMaxBytes!
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As Luke said, it won't be an issue if your users use TLS. They are
whitelisted and local, so there is no worry about RBL etc checks not
working. The user's mail client sends on port 465, Stunnel
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Since upgrading to (19)
Try 21
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This simply prefixes a / to all expanding menu option URLs.
Do not use it.
It renders the url to absolut.
It is fixed in 21 (i think) with use of ./
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I'm guessing no, since I'm not sure what you mean. Could you give
me
an example so I can make sure I am testing as thoroughly as possible?
e.g.
In order to ensure secure remote access to
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As you can see, there is no PB action taking place against this
sub-domain match. I have verified that the IP is never added to the
PB
table.
it is quite possible that the ip is not added
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I have verified that no PB action is taking please against sub-domain
matches of blackListedDomains. Strict domain matches are behaving
normally.
I do not believe that.
fb
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I still fail to see the issue in the context of the ASSP website.
You say, you cannot think of situations where ASSP is run as a non
root web-directory?
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No, thats not what I meant. I was referring to the use of '\' or
'.\'
by ASSP.
Hm.. i was also referring to
the use of '\' or '.\'
... root with the use of
'\'
... relative with the use
Just because there is no difference in that part of the code doesn't
mean that something isn't making it happen. I checked what you
suggested and there were no matches anywhere.
The text has blacklisted domain is only in one place. And if the
text is logged then *all* actions are done.
Please
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I don't like to bring this issue up, because as Fritz *rightfully*
points out, this is not the way the Bayesian filtering is meant to
function. But, perhaps that needs to be re-thought,
I put this to you: Ask any File Server administrator or on-line game
player if defragging their hard drives makes any difference to
performance. You will hear a resounding yes.
My last answer to you: I did not say that defragmentation will not
increase performance (sometimes). I did say,
So, in the past 30 years all you have done is purchased new HD's
instead
of defragging if necessary? I
No, I (my company) even build some of them and sold them.
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Is this view too simplistic?
No, it is the right view and the core of the discussion I have with ME.
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Empty box in the ui - as always. I tried entering something, but I'm
unsure if that changed
anything. Still checking...
Thanks.
Try the newest version (25)
I find great humor in the FWOHW policy that is in place here. LOL!!!
FWOHW = Fritz's way or the highway.
Thanks for the laugh Fritz. You never cease to keep my chuckling.
Obviously I could do something for you. How nice.
fb
If the effectiveness
of that feature is diminished due to the type of mail flowing through
it
or the kind of user using the filter...perhaps it should be
re-evaluated
from a fresh perspective?
The effectiveness is not diminished due to the type of mail flowing
through it
or the kind of user
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