RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-05-07 Thread Jennings, Mike
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions





Is the 7970 still problematic?


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On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 20:20, David Carter wrote:
> I'm considering using Asterisk with some type of Cisco phone, and currently
> considering either the 7940 or 7960 because of its more-complete functionality
> (compared to the 7905).
> I'm currently wondering:
>   Do all the expected functions (transfer, conference, voice mail, message
>   waiting indicator, etc.) work normally with Asterisk over SIP?


All work great :)


>   What caveats are known about using these phones with SIP, as opposed to
>   Cisco's proprietary SCCP?  If an SCCP module is available for Asterisk,
>   how functional is it?


There are 2 SCCP modules chan_sccp & chan_skinny
I've not personally used either yet, but I believe they offer working
basic functionality, but are not as advanced as SIP/IAX or, indeed, SCCP
with CallManager.


>   How customizable are the phone menus while using SIP (or if a SCCP
>   module is available, using SCCP)?


Services menu is very customisable:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Cisco+79XX+XML+Services


There is even a manager interface for Asterisk available!:
http://asterisk.edihost.co.uk/am-web/


> Cisco doesn't seem to have much documentation online about using these phones
> in SIP mode, so if anyone is using these phones now, I'd appreciate hearing
> about your experiences.


A good resource is:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-05-07 Thread Fran Boon
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 20:20, David Carter wrote:
> I'm considering using Asterisk with some type of Cisco phone, and currently
> considering either the 7940 or 7960 because of its more-complete functionality
> (compared to the 7905).
> I'm currently wondering:
>   Do all the expected functions (transfer, conference, voice mail, message
>   waiting indicator, etc.) work normally with Asterisk over SIP?

All work great :)

>   What caveats are known about using these phones with SIP, as opposed to
>   Cisco's proprietary SCCP?  If an SCCP module is available for Asterisk,
>   how functional is it?

There are 2 SCCP modules chan_sccp & chan_skinny
I've not personally used either yet, but I believe they offer working
basic functionality, but are not as advanced as SIP/IAX or, indeed, SCCP
with CallManager.

>   How customizable are the phone menus while using SIP (or if a SCCP
>   module is available, using SCCP)?

Services menu is very customisable:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Cisco+79XX+XML+Services

There is even a manager interface for Asterisk available!:
http://asterisk.edihost.co.uk/am-web/

> Cisco doesn't seem to have much documentation online about using these phones
> in SIP mode, so if anyone is using these phones now, I'd appreciate hearing
> about your experiences.

A good resource is:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx

F

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-25 Thread Paul Tyreman
I have just bought a Cisco 7960, but haven't connected it up yet.

I've also just bought a second X100P card, which I want to use on my second
line.

The question I have is, can I use two of the buttons on the Cisco phone to
specify what line the Asterisk server uses to call out on ?  If so, how
would I go about doing that ?

Also, is it possible to assign multiple extension numbers to a single Cisco
phone, using these buttons ?

Thanks, Paul.




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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Scott Laird wrote:

>
> On Apr 21, 2004, at 12:20 PM, David Carter wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm considering using Asterisk with some type of Cisco phone, and
> > currently
> > considering either the 7940 or 7960 because of its more-complete
> > functionality
> > (compared to the 7905).
> >
> > I'm currently wondering:
> >
> >  Do all the expected functions (transfer, conference, voice mail,
> > message
> >  waiting indicator, etc.) work normally with Asterisk over SIP?
>
> I've tested transfer, voicemail, and MWI.  Conference should work have
> I haven't tested it.

They all work. Great phones. Great firmware. Work awesome with Asterisk.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-25 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Scott Laird wrote:

> 
> On Apr 21, 2004, at 12:20 PM, David Carter wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm considering using Asterisk with some type of Cisco phone, and  
> > currently
> > considering either the 7940 or 7960 because of its more-complete  
> > functionality
> > (compared to the 7905).
> >
> > I'm currently wondering:
> >
> > Do all the expected functions (transfer, conference, voice mail,  
> > message
> > waiting indicator, etc.) work normally with Asterisk over SIP?
> 
> I've tested transfer, voicemail, and MWI.  Conference should work have  
> I haven't tested it.

They all work. Great phones. Great firmware. Work awesome with Asterisk.

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 http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-24 Thread Eric Wieling
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:09, Vic Cross wrote:
> Oops, I forgot my footnote.  Sorry everyone.
> 
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Vic Cross wrote:
> 
> > There are two[1] SCCP channels available for Asterisk:
> 
> 
> [1] chan_sccp comes in two flavours, really -- the original by Theo, and a
> revised edition by Lambda Solutions that added better support for the
> 7920.  Lambda has said that they will port their mods back into Theo's
> work, so you could say that they are the same, but for completeness I 
> regard them separately.

I believe that chan_skinny and the chan_sccp were pretty much
independently developed. 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-24 Thread Vic Cross
Oops, I forgot my footnote.  Sorry everyone.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Vic Cross wrote:

> There are two[1] SCCP channels available for Asterisk:


[1] chan_sccp comes in two flavours, really -- the original by Theo, and a
revised edition by Lambda Solutions that added better support for the
7920.  Lambda has said that they will port their mods back into Theo's
work, so you could say that they are the same, but for completeness I 
regard them separately.

Cheers,
Vic Cross
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-23 Thread Vic Cross
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Paul Tyreman wrote:

> Would it be possible for you to provide some more info on this.

There are two[1] SCCP channels available for Asterisk:

- chan_skinny: part of Asterisk (?), basic support, limited development

- chan_sccp: derived from chan_skinny, separately downloaded, more
complete support (especially for the Wi-Fi 7920)

I have not used chan_skinny.  It will probably work for you, but ISTR one 
of the limitations was that it only provided a single line presentation 
per device (you will want more than this on a 7960).

I use chan_sccp with my 7960s.  As I have commented previously, it is
quite usable and functional even though the developers class it as "Beta
Quality".  YMMV.  You can find info about chan_sccp at
http://www.lambda-solutions.de/sccp.  I'm sure there is a lot of
information on SCCP and * available in past posts to the list too.

Cheers,
Vic Cross
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-23 Thread Paul Tyreman



Hi, 
 
Would it be possible for you to provide some more 
info on this.
 
I have just bought a Cisco 7960 on eBay, but only 
now has the reality of needing a login to upgrade to SIP become 
clear.
 
Can you tell me how you managed to get your phone 
going on Asterisk without the image change ?
 
Thanks, Paul,
 
 
 
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functionality questions
 
> There are two SCCP modules, but I haven't heard about anyone 
using> 7940/60s with SCCP and Asterisk.
 
Let me be the first to say that I do, then.  Three 7940g over Skinny 
without any problems.Some initial setup trouble as this setup isn't 
really documented anywhere.  But no Cisco login,so no SIP and no 
choice...
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-22 Thread Vic Cross
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Louis van Dompselaar wrote:

> > There are two SCCP modules, but I haven't heard about anyone using  
> > 7940/60s with SCCP and Asterisk.
> 
> Let me be the first to say that I do, then.  Three 7940g over Skinny 
> without any problems.
> Some initial setup trouble as this setup isn't really documented 
> anywhere.  But no Cisco login,
> so no SIP and no choice...

And let me be the second ;)  A 7960, using chan_sccp from Lambda 
Solutions.  Multiple line presentations work well (except things go a 
little weird when you're on a call on one line and a call comes in on 
another).  I echo Louis' comments that documentation is quite sparse, but 
I really didn't need any more than the well-commented sample sccp.conf.

I have a second 7960 that I'll probably use for SIP playing, if I ever 
find a Cisco reseller who will take my meager business (one or two 
Smartnets for phones is obviously beneath them).

Cheers,
Vic Cross
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-21 Thread Louis van Dompselaar


There are two SCCP modules, but I haven't heard about anyone using  
7940/60s with SCCP and Asterisk.
Let me be the first to say that I do, then.  Three 7940g over Skinny 
without any problems.
Some initial setup trouble as this setup isn't really documented 
anywhere.  But no Cisco login,
so no SIP and no choice...

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7940/7960 SIP functionality questions

2004-04-21 Thread Scott Laird
On Apr 21, 2004, at 12:20 PM, David Carter wrote:
Hello,

I'm considering using Asterisk with some type of Cisco phone, and  
currently
considering either the 7940 or 7960 because of its more-complete  
functionality
(compared to the 7905).

I'm currently wondering:

	Do all the expected functions (transfer, conference, voice mail,  
message
	waiting indicator, etc.) work normally with Asterisk over SIP?
I've tested transfer, voicemail, and MWI.  Conference should work have  
I haven't tested it.

	What caveats are known about using these phones with SIP, as opposed  
to
	Cisco's proprietary SCCP?  If an SCCP module is available for  
Asterisk,
	how functional is it?
There are two SCCP modules, but I haven't heard about anyone using  
7940/60s with SCCP and Asterisk.  The phone works very well with SIP.

How customizable are the phone menus while using SIP (or if a SCCP
module is available, using SCCP)?
To the best of my knowledge, the phone's internal menus aren't  
customizable at all.  However, the 'services' button on the front panel  
works just like a menu button and fetches XML content over HTTP.  You  
can get a good overview of the syntax and possibilities from  
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/vpdd/cdd/3_0/ 
phsvcdev.pdf

In addition to the service button, you can also change some of the  
content reached from the directory button.  With SIP firmware v6.3,  
there are 5 menus available from the directory button:

  missed calls
  incoming calls
  outgoing calls
  personal directory
  external directory
(I may have the wording and order slightly wrong, I'm not in front of  
my phone right now).  The first 3 menus are built into the phone and  
are maintained automatically.  You can copy names and numbers from  
these three into the personal directory.  I assume that the personal  
directory is limited to ~32 entries, but I haven't tested it.  Finally,  
the external directory option fetches XML from a web server, just like  
the services button.  You can use it to implement a shared phone  
directory.

Cisco doesn't seem to have much documentation online about using these  
phones
in SIP mode, so if anyone is using these phones now, I'd appreciate  
hearing
about your experiences.
Yeah, the documentation is kind of sparse.  Google can help.  Here are  
a couple useful pages that I've tracked down:

http://www.cisco.com/global/FR/documents/pdfs/ciscotheque/ 
journee_developpeurs/ 
03_Cisco_CallManager_Version_3_3_IP_Phone_Services_nchrisso.pdf
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/wireless/library/wi-voip/

Scott

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