Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-30 Thread Phil Hudson
On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 at 2:51:52 am BST, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: I'm a little flabbergasted by this though. Why is there a need for a fallback in the first place? I think nil should be interpreted like the documentation say: do nothing. I agree. We have a breach! A breach of the

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-30 Thread Glyn Millington
Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com writes: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 10:34:32 am BST, Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com wrote: The term mail alias itself seems to me to be poorly chosen, Replying to myself... I've thought of one, namely Gnus' use of group (meaning/derived from newsgroup) for

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-30 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com writes: Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com writes: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 10:34:32 am BST, Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com wrote: The term mail alias itself seems to me to be poorly chosen, Replying to myself... I've thought of one, namely Gnus'

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-30 Thread Phil Hudson
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 10:34:32 am BST, Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com wrote: The term mail alias itself seems to me to be poorly chosen, bespeaking an inward-looking, comp-sci-technical, historical reasons (IOW no reason) viewpoint rather than an outward-looking, user- and

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-29 Thread Glyn Millington
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: On Apr 28 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Well, yes, if you don't pass 'gnus to the bbdb-mua-auto-update-init function, then it won't parse any Gnus article buffers. However, I *want*

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-29 Thread Phil Hudson
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 2:35:06 pm BST, Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org wrote: In BBDB 3.1.2 there is no bbdb-define-all-aliases. It should be bbdb-mail-aliases, as mentioned in some earlier messages on this list. So the wiki should be updated. Done. -- Phil Hudson

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-29 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 28 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: On Apr 28 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Well, yes, if you don't pass 'gnus to the bbdb-mua-auto-update-init function,

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Glyn Millington
Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org writes: Glyn Millington wrote: Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org writes: In BBDB 3.1.2 there is no bbdb-define-all-aliases. It should be bbdb-mail-aliases, as mentioned in some earlier messages on this list. So the wiki should be updated.

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Glyn Millington wrote: Tab is bound to message-x-tab, which of course comes from the message-x package, which interacts with bbdb. Wow. I installed that and now it works. Thanks. My year-long (at least) quest finally finished. -- Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org WWW:

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 28 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Well, yes, if you don't pass 'gnus to the bbdb-mua-auto-update-init function, then it won't parse any Gnus article buffers. However, I *want* bbdb3 to parse the Gnus article buffers

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Phil Hudson
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 8:36:34 pm BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: 'mail-alias' refers to aliases set up in a special file, usually called .mailrc. I'm not clear that this is involved with the bbdb at all. Now this is really confusing. Are there two different mail-alias

bbdb-message-all-addresses (was: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records)

2015-04-28 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 27 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: (setq bbdb-message-all-addresses t) Can you explain what this setting does? The help says , | If t `bbdb-update-records' returns all mail addresses of a message. | Otherwise this function returns only the first mail

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 27 2015, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using bbdb 3.1.2. I have the following configuration: (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message) (setq bbdb-mua-pop-up t bbdb-mua-auto-update-p nil

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Glyn Millington
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Well, yes, if you don't pass 'gnus to the bbdb-mua-auto-update-init function, then it won't parse any Gnus article buffers. However, I *want* bbdb3 to parse the Gnus article buffers under same conditions. I tried implemeting this conditions in a

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com writes: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 2:09:26 am BST, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com writes: On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 5:59:07 pm BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: (add-hook

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Phil Hudson
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 9:48:56 am BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. There are two. They are independent. But message.el can use either. Got it. Thanks. -- Phil Hudson http://hudson-it.ddns.net @UWascalWabbit PGP/GnuPG ID:

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-28 Thread Phil Hudson
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 8:36:34 pm BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: mail-alias - I believe this is defined in bbdb.el You can insert that field into a record using the instructions offered here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbMailingLists Thanks for that. I've

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-27 Thread Glyn Millington
Phil Hudson phil.hud...@iname.com writes: On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 5:59:07 pm BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-mail-aliases) This led me to the documentation for bbdb-mail-aliases, which leads me to ask for an explanation of what

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-27 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 22 2015, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: On Apr 22 2015, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: Hello, I'm using bbdb 3.1.2. I have the following configuration: (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message) (setq bbdb-mua-pop-up

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-27 Thread Glyn Millington
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: On Apr 22 2015, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: On Apr 22 2015, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: Hello, I'm using bbdb 3.1.2. I have the following configuration: (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-27 Thread Phil Hudson
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 5:59:07 pm BST, Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com wrote: (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-mail-aliases) This led me to the documentation for bbdb-mail-aliases, which leads me to ask for an explanation of what a mail alias is. My guess is that it's either

Re: bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-22 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Apr 22 2015, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: Hello, I'm using bbdb 3.1.2. I have the following configuration: (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message) (setq bbdb-mua-pop-up t bbdb-mua-auto-update-p nil

bbdb3 won't stop auto-updating records

2015-04-22 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, I'm using bbdb 3.1.2. I have the following configuration: (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message) (setq bbdb-mua-pop-up t bbdb-mua-auto-update-p nil bbdb-update-records-p 'query bbdb-ignore-message-alist