Re: [Blackbelly] fenced area needed in Guymon Oklahoma for sheep transfer

2011-09-07 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Carol: Try the contacts listed on this website. You could pull into the rodeo arena and be assured that nothing will get out http://www.guymoncofc.org/pioneerdays.htm Cecil in OK On 9/6/2011 6:14 PM, Carol Elkins wrote: I will be swapping some sheep with a person and we plan to meet

Re: [Blackbelly] Tired of losing sheep to coyotes

2011-09-09 Thread Cecil R Bearden
On 9/9/2011 4:42 AM, stewart wrote: to all, can anyone suggest the best way to protect my sheep from coyotes? i work the late shift and the last two morning when i get home i find a dead sheep. i have field fence as a barrier. spent a few hours thursday making certain no holes or spots the

Re: [Blackbelly] Pipestone Vet's ad about not feeding sheep mineral

2011-10-12 Thread Cecil R Bearden
A few years back I killed about 17 lambs with selenium shots. If your soil or water has selenium in it, I would not even consider feeding any selenium supplement. Selenium is another heavy metal just like arsenic. A lot of feeds are supplemented with selenium so that it can be sent

Re: [Blackbelly] hay

2011-10-24 Thread Cecil R Bearden
In defense of the farmer that sold you the hay, it is extremely difficult to get an accurate weight on round bales of hay. In the same field, I have found as much as 300 lbs difference between hay bales. While there are some out there who are taking full advantage of the plight of farmers

Re: [Blackbelly] Fact or Fiction?

2011-11-22 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I feed dried distillers grains pelleted. During lambing season I feed late in the evening. My ewes Usually have lambs between 5 and 9 am the next morning. This works for cattle, and seems to work for sheep. As I said earlier, every lambing is the same only different!!! Welcome to the

Re: [Blackbelly] was Copper/trace minerals. and a NOW poll

2012-01-03 Thread Cecil R Bearden
It appears that this is a legitimate poll, and these folks really need our help as fellow livestock owners and breeders and pet owners. We have had the same type of problem here in OK with humane organizations trying to tell a donkey rescue org how to care of their animals. I am not a Donkey

Re: [Blackbelly] lamb disappeared

2012-02-02 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I have lost a lamb in a larger pasture, and it weighed about 7 lbs. I finally concluded it was to hawks. I have good anecdotal evidence that a hawk can pick up a 15lb poodle. Cecil in oKla On 2/1/2012 4:47 PM, RAY DE SA wrote: Hi Jerry, Here in California I've lost bigger ABB lambs to

Re: [Blackbelly] bottle lamb

2012-02-29 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Feel his belly on HIS left side see if it feels full. If so massage it and rub from legs to head on his left side gently in long strokes 3 or 4 times and listen for a burp. If no burp, he might be bloated. Possibly from not getting enough colostrum. I add colustrum to my bottle fed babies

Re: [Blackbelly] bottle lamb

2012-02-29 Thread Cecil R Bearden
couldn't save her. She didn't have any signs of anything wrong at all it just hit her and that was it. Good luck. Nancy Quoting Cecil R Bearden crbear...@copper.net: Feel his belly on HIS left side see if it feels full. If so massage it and rub from legs to head on his left side gently

Re: [Blackbelly] Giving Birth

2012-03-02 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I have had more troubled experiences this lambing than ever before. My ewes were too fat. I was supplementing them and had hay out 24/7. They just do not have the milk production they should have had. I had green pasture for them to graze on until the last2 months of pregnancy. When I

Re: [Blackbelly] Giving Birth predator alerts

2012-03-03 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I should have elaborated a little more on the predator experience. I think it was a neighbor's dog which is not fed and contained as it should be. This occurred inside a 5 ft high chain link fenced area of my front yard about 20ft from the house. The drought we experienced this summer and

Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-06 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Michael: I have an old ewe that started limping about 3 years ago for no reason. She still limps and has 2 lambs now. I would get a bottle of Banamine and use the dosage same as cattle. Cecil in oKla On 3/6/2012 4:23 PM, Michael Smith wrote: Could use some advice on what to look for

Re: [Blackbelly] Limping ewe

2012-03-07 Thread Cecil R Bearden
A few years ago we were having a streak of very wet weather. My ewes started acting as if their feet were sore. I fed them Vitamin H or Biotin as a supplement and in about 3 days it went away. Biotin helps strengthen hoofs, It couls not hurt. Clovite is a good supplement that has Biotin.

Re: [Blackbelly] Have Pet ABB Weather - Can we trim horns?

2012-04-22 Thread Cecil R Bearden
A coarse sanding belt or shop roll can slip between horn and face and sand down the horn for some clearance Cecil in OKla On 4/21/2012 11:23 PM, Lucinda wrote: Yes you can sand/ trim a few inches usually Sent with Lucindas ipod On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:16 PM, atwoo...@aol.com wrote: I

Re: [Blackbelly] Mothering ability

2012-05-11 Thread Cecil R Bearden
My dad made a halter out of some flat nylon woven strapping for a ewe that would not take her lambs. We tied her to the pen and p;ut hay and water within reach and in 3 days she took her lambs. We supplemented the lambs with bottle feeding also. She had triplets. When she did it again the

Re: [Blackbelly] Mountain Lion

2012-06-19 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I do not know what state you are in, but , Call Animal Damage Control. They are paid by federal funds and usually in your department of Agriculture. File a report about your losses and document the losses with pictures. If you get a chance to trap or shoot or just run this one over, then

Re: [Blackbelly] Mountain Lion

2012-06-21 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Good luck. remember you are dealing with an animal that has a nose that is 100,000 times more sensitive than yours. It can smell a week old weinie in a closed refrigerator a mile away!!! If it has any fear of a human, it will not come around. It is a frustrating experience, as I had to

Re: [Blackbelly] Fwd: Website Request for Information about BBSAI

2012-11-18 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I would add a supplement rich in vitamin H and follow with a good worming with safegaurd or panacur. Cecil in oKla On 11/18/2012 4:28 PM, Mary Swindell wrote: Hello breeder friends, As Registrar of the BBSAI, I answer questions from those who write in to the BBSAI web site at

Re: [Blackbelly] lamb does not recognize momma

2012-12-17 Thread Cecil R Bearden
If you want to save it, work fast, keep it warm, tube feed if necessary, and remember, a Barbado ewe here in OKlahoma only gives about 20cc of milk per milking. If you follow that book recipe for the 20% per day, you will over feed it and it will die from clostridium toxins or Founder as

Re: [Blackbelly] POSSIBLE LONE EWE

2013-01-18 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Could it be she has overeating disease, or founder? Cecil in OKla On 1/17/2013 10:03 PM, ljacob4...@aol.com wrote: I have two ewes. Mom, (Tawny) is 11 yrs. old and daughter (Violet) is 10. Tawny is very ill and we are trying desperately to save her; however, the Vet can't figure out why

Re: [Blackbelly] Dead ewe, coyotes? or something else

2013-06-05 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Sounds like coyotes or coyote/dog cross.Look for a trail into your pasture and set a trap. Cecil in OKLa On 6/5/2013 12:17 AM, Michael Smith wrote: (Moderator--I am re-sending this in plain text.) New to sheep, started in 2008 as some of you folks know, and our fencing has been real good.

Re: [Blackbelly] Dumb lamb

2013-09-23 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I have used Mentholatum or Vicks on the ewe's nose and on the lambs back to get them to take a lamb. It might work in reverse. You might try some around the lambs nose, and then rub some on the ewe's legs or her belly so the lamb will recognize her. Cecil in OKla On 9/22/2013 9:42 PM, Mark

Re: [Blackbelly] The noble Marley

2013-10-09 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Thank you Michael. I was afraid you were going to succumb to the mighty dollar. When my first ram Blackie, was not usuable for service, I wethered him and he turned out to be a great pet and would lead the flock in to the pen or wherever I needed them. He later had an injury to his feet, he

Re: [Blackbelly] Fading lamb

2014-04-03 Thread Cecil R Bearden
The only time I have had lambs cry out in pain is when they had enterotoxemia from over feeding. I would never elastrate a lamb before 4 months old. It is possible that you little one tried to nurse another mother and was shoved into the barn, ground, etc. I have seen other mothers being

Re: [Blackbelly] Sheep Mastitis

2015-03-22 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Mastitis is a real pain. You need to feed the lambs on a bottle and restrict their access to that udder milk. They can get an infection from it. You can infuse the udder with Penicillin, based mastitis treatment. You will have to use cattle treatments as there are none available for

Re: [Blackbelly] dispatching gun

2015-03-29 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Get youjrself a .357 Marlin lever action rifle. You can use 38 caliber ammo in it. It will have a good knockdown power at close range and will not travel a long way if you miss...( 100 yd bullet drop). I use one for coyotes in what is now becoming suburbs. Cecil in OKla On 3/28/2015

Re: [Blackbelly] suden death of ABB ewe

2015-05-23 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I cannot help but suspect Selenium poisoning here. It acts fast, Less than 6 hrs, and looks like pneumonia. On 5/23/2015 1:33 PM, Laura Rinker wrote: There were a bunch of sudden deaths on a property in Galt, Ca and a necropsy on one of them from UC davis showed pneumonia and cardiac

Re: [Blackbelly] fencing

2015-07-17 Thread Cecil R Bearden
I installed a 5 wire alternating hot and ground wire fence about 300 ft long across one end of my sheep pasture about 10 years ago. I used a locally built 110 volt fencer that would produce a very blue spark about 1/2 inch long. The rams would stick their heads through the fence with their

Re: [Blackbelly] Marley the AB ram died, I suspect pneumonia

2015-09-11 Thread Cecil R Bearden
Extreme hot weather will cause Pneumonia as quickly as cold. I think the problem is dust in the air. It probably is dust Pneumonia. Makes no difference what we call it, it has to be treated aggressively. I would not wait on the vet, I would start giving Combiotic ( Long acting Penicillin