Re: BusyBox GPL violation?

2009-01-17 Thread Rob Landley
On Sunday 11 January 2009 12:08:36 René Hanke wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I didn't really know where to post it, so I wrote this to
> [email protected] and here:
>
> - - - - - - - - -
>
> Hello and greetings from Germany!
>
> I just buyed a Emtec Q800 media player/recorder and realized that its
> firmware is using your great BusyBox.

After the SFLC filed a "Mepis II" lawsuit against Cisco on behalf of the FSF, 
I've asked the SFLC's not to file fresh lawsuits on behalf of my copyrights, 
because I no longer trust their judgement and don't want to give them a bigger 
soapbox with which to pursue the FSF's counterproductive extremist agendas.

 Erik might still be onboard with them, I haven't heard back from him yet.  
And Denys is free to sign up with them if he wants to.  But their partnership 
with the FSF has cost them _my_ support.

Also, the SFLC doesn't file any suits in Europe that I'm aware of, just in the 
US courts.  The european group you probably want to talk to is
gpl-violations.org, and they mostly focus on kernel stuff (although Erik and I 
signed up with Harald Welte for an enforcement action in France).

> Since I and some other users would like to modify the player a little bit
> (adding features), we asked Emtec, where we could download the sourcecode
> which must be available as far as I understand the GPL.
>
> Emtec told us, that they didn't have any sources but Mele (www.mele.cn),
> the "real" producer of the hard- and software. We tried to contact Mele
> multiple times, but got no response.

I'd start by asking Emtec to help get mele to talk to you.

Rob
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Re: BusyBox GPL violation?

2009-01-11 Thread Sergio Monteiro Basto
Hi,  I buy a emtec too, an R100, they use a very old busybox .
So far as I can understand, I can see the sources and busybox version.
telnet there and enter with root. So the other sources that emtec might
be made , and with a busybox version under GPLv2 can be omit it .
Because it is his own material, other material we already have the
sources.
which is petty, because his material is not nothing especial, and they
don't use a newer version of busy box because , might be forced to show
his own material. I prefer thinking , in hacking and upgrade busybox my
self in that emtec box, because the busybox rocks ! :) 

Best regards, 

On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:08 +0100, René Hanke wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> I didn't really know where to post it, so I wrote this to
> [email protected] and here:
> 
> 
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
> 
> Hello and greetings from Germany!
> 
> 
> I just buyed a Emtec Q800 media player/recorder and realized that its
> firmware is using your great BusyBox.
> 
> 
> Since I and some other users would like to modify the player a little
> bit (adding features), we asked Emtec, where we could download the
> sourcecode which must be available as far as I understand the GPL.
> 
> 
> Emtec told us, that they didn't have any sources but Mele
> (www.mele.cn), the "real" producer of the hard- and software. We tried
> to contact Mele multiple times, but got no response.
> 
> 
> Currently we know that *every* Emtec Media-Player uses BusyBox, but
> *no* sourcecode is available. At least *some* players from Fantec
> (www.fantec.de) and Evertech use it, too. All seem to use Mele
> Hardware.
> 
> 
> We thought it would be interesting for you to know the many violations
> of the GPL. Perhaps *you* can do something about it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards (and please excuse my bad english)
> 
> 
> René
>  
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Re: BusyBox GPL violation?

2009-01-11 Thread Denys Vlasenko
Forwarded to [email protected]. This address is the recommended way to contact
the Software Freedom Law Center to report BusyBox license violations. 


On Sunday 11 January 2009 19:08, René Hanke wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I didn't really know where to post it, so I wrote this to 
> [email protected] and here:
> 
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
> Hello and greetings from Germany!
> 
> I just buyed a Emtec Q800 media player/recorder and realized that its 
> firmware is using your 
> great BusyBox.
> 
> Since I and some other users would like to modify the player a little bit 
> (adding features), we 
> asked Emtec, where we could download the sourcecode which must be available 
> as far as I 
> understand the GPL.
> 
> Emtec told us, that they didn't have any sources but Mele (www.mele.cn), the 
> "real" producer 
> of the hard- and software. We tried to contact Mele multiple times, but got 
> no response.
> 
> Currently we know that *every* Emtec Media-Player uses BusyBox, but *no* 
> sourcecode is 
> available. At least *some* players from Fantec (www.fantec.de) and Evertech 
> use it, too. All 
> seem to use Mele Hardware.
> 
> We thought it would be interesting for you to know the many violations of the 
> GPL. Perhaps 
> *you* can do something about it.
> 
> 
> Best regards (and please excuse my bad english)
> 
> René
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BusyBox GPL violation?

2009-01-11 Thread René Hanke
Hi!

I didn't really know where to post it, so I wrote this to 
[email protected] and here:

- - - - - - - - -

Hello and greetings from Germany!

I just buyed a Emtec Q800 media player/recorder and realized that its firmware 
is using your
great BusyBox.

Since I and some other users would like to modify the player a little bit 
(adding features), we
asked Emtec, where we could download the sourcecode which must be available as 
far as I
understand the GPL.

Emtec told us, that they didn't have any sources but Mele (www.mele.cn), the 
"real" producer
of the hard- and software. We tried to contact Mele multiple times, but got no 
response.

Currently we know that *every* Emtec Media-Player uses BusyBox, but *no* 
sourcecode is
available. At least *some* players from Fantec (www.fantec.de) and Evertech use 
it, too. All
seem to use Mele Hardware.

We thought it would be interesting for you to know the many violations of the 
GPL. Perhaps
*you* can do something about it.


Best regards (and please excuse my bad english)

René

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