Re: Proof of Work - atmospheric carbon

2009-01-26 Thread John Gilmore
If POW tokens do become useful, and especially if they become money, machines will no longer sit idle. Users will expect their computers to be earning them money (assuming the reward is greater than the cost to operate). Computers are already designed to consume much less electricity when

Re: Obama's secure PDA

2009-01-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:49 AM -0500 1/26/09, Ivan Krstiç wrote: There are still conflicting reports about whether the hardware is an altered RIM BlackBerry or a different device, though the most likely contender for the latter option appears to be the General Dynamics Sectéra Edge, which features a trusted

Re: Proof of Work - atmospheric carbon

2009-01-26 Thread John Levine
Can't we just convert actual money in a bank account into bitbux -- cheaply and without a carbon tax? Please? If only. People have been saying for at least a decade that all we have to do to solve the spam problem is to charge a small fee for every message sent. Unfortunately, there's a

Re: Obama's secure PDA

2009-01-26 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 02:49:31AM -0500, Ivan Krsti? wrote: Finally, any idea why the Sect?ra is certified up to Top Secret for voice but only up to Secret for e-mail? (That is, what are the differing requirements?) I know no specific details but strongly suspect the difference in

Re: Obama's secure PDA

2009-01-26 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:49 AM, Ivan Krstić wrote: [A]ny idea why the Sectéra is certified up to Top Secret for voice but only up to Secret for e-mail? (That is, what are the differing requirements?) I have no information, but a guess: Phone conversation encryption, at all levels, has been