Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-18 Thread L. Shyamal
I support Karthik's point and think there is a long overdue case to call for all publicly funded work (incl. government works, publications, data etc.) to be explicitly released into the public domain (as defined here http://law.yourdictionary.com/articles/what-is-public-domain.html ) or failing

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-18 Thread Avinash Celestine
there was some movement towards the making of govt funded work, or hopefully just govt work, copyright-free. there were many proposals before the govt when the last amendment to the copyright act came up for revision. However such proposals were rejected and they didnt go through. It is worth

[datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Karthik Shashidhar
What do you think of websites or organizations that ask you to fill up an elaborate form or write an elaborate research proposal before they share their data with you? Do you think such data is really open? I find monetary paywalls more egalitarian than such artificial paywalls because in the

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Gautam John
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Karthik Shashidhar karthik.shashid...@gmail.com wrote: What do you think of websites or organizations that ask you to fill up an elaborate form or write an elaborate research proposal before they share their data with you? Do you think such data is really

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Sumant Suresh Kulkarni
Hi Karthik, Very interesting question. However, before putting my points here, I wanted to know what are you referring to as non-monetary paywalls. Can you give some examples? It would definitely make the context more clear for me. Thank you, Sumant On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gautam

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Gautam John
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sumant Suresh Kulkarni kulkarni.sum...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting question. However, before putting my points here, I wanted to know what are you referring to as non-monetary paywalls. Can you give some examples? It would definitely make the context

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Karthik Shashidhar
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sumant Suresh Kulkarni kulkarni.sum...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting question. However, before putting my points here, I wanted to know what are you referring to as non-monetary paywalls. Can you give some examples? It would definitely make the context

Re: [datameet] Is data behind non-monetary paywalls really open?

2013-02-17 Thread Deepak Shenoy
Without taking names. I recently read a report online based on a survey. Now, I thought there were some different ways to look at and analyze the survey data, so I wanted to get my hands on the raw data. But take names no? :) I stopped responding to surveys from Moneylife (although I respect