ITO: tkirc

2000-09-12 Thread Pekka Aleksi Knuutila
Hello developers and soon-to-be developers, I've switched to irssi and don't know much about Tcl/Tk. Someone of you can probably do a better job with tkirc, so i wish to give it away. I'll gladly sponsor if needed. Packages of tkirc 2.42, still needing a bit of testing, can be found from

Re: please help updating calendar

2000-09-12 Thread ferret
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:54:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly files. The events are fixed. The main point is that the Jewish calendar is based on the motion of the moon,

Re: please help updating calendar

2000-09-12 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:34:41PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:54:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly files. The events are fixed. The main

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-12 Thread ferret
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Dale E. Martin wrote: Basically, cdparanoia requires use of 'scsi-generic' (/dev/sg*) when reading from SCSI cdrom drives. /dev/sg device nodes are created with root.root ownership and mode 0600. Which is correct - you definitely want tight access on your devices.

Best way to depend on an xserver but conflict with XF86 v4 ?

2000-09-12 Thread Philippe Troin
I have a package (utah-glx) which needs can be used only on a XF86 3.3.6 server. How can I express this ? Depends: xserver(4.0) does not work since xserver is a virtual package. I found: Depends: xserver Conflicts: xfree86-common(=4.0) to be working. Is it the right way (or a good

determining if we're using db.h from libc6 or libdb2?

2000-09-12 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
Is there some set of defines such that I can determine with #ifdef that I've got a copy of glibc2 that has db.h as an include file? My plan is that if such a #ifdef is true, then I can #include db2/db.h. Thanks, Darren -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.daft.com/~torin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:28:54AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Indeed. A dependency may also mean that the package is a binary extension module for the Python interpreter which will be linked dynamically with the interpreter (at some time, when the module is imported). In this case, if

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:39:04PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: Probably this should be discussed here and if noone objects changed ASAP, so that any problems get caught quickly. Don't change that. Beginners would be very confused if the keytable is not working as expected. Not everybody can

Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
reopen 71107 retitle 71107 Explorer is unmaintained and should be removed thanks On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:27:00AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: It's orphaned. And has been for about 7 months. The maintainer should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that. ...that would

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Mark Brown wrote: This only works, if the diff's are independend or one diff is diff are on the top of each other. So I do not see the advantage of many diffs. The advantage of having multiple diffs is that distinct changes can be kept distinct. You do need a system

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 11:42:32AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Mark Brown wrote: This only works, if the diff's are independend or one diff is diff are on the top of each other. So I do not see the advantage of many diffs. The advantage of having multiple

Re: determining if we're using db.h from libc6 or libdb2?

2000-09-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 12:46:02AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: Is there some set of defines such that I can determine with #ifdef that I've got a copy of glibc2 that has db.h as an include file? My plan is that if such a #ifdef is true, then I can #include db2/db.h. Keep it at

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-12 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
12.09.2000 pisze Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Don't change that. Beginners would be very confused if the keytable is not working as expected. Not everybody can work with a US keyboard table if the need arises. Debian should try to get more user friendly instead of getting uglier

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-12 Thread Dale E. Martin
The problem I have here is that the 'appropriate device' is not guarenteed to stay constant with respect to the SCSI bus and ID, the way IDE devices are for example. On my system (I believe this is actually the default) scd devices are group audio, perm 0660, and my cdripper account is in the

dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread marty macdonald
Hi, I saw your ad about sheet music for this. Could you please send it to me? I did find it on olga.net but it looks incomplete. Cheers Marty __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --

Re: devfsd permissions and makedev permissions coordination

2000-09-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 11, Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is obviously wrong, ttys must have 620 permissions (or 600 if you don't want people talk(1)ing to you, but I think the default should be to allow it). For ttys owned by a shell that's true, but it's set up by login(1), not

Re: Best way to depend on an xserver but conflict with XF86 v4 ?

2000-09-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philippe Troin wrote: I have a package (utah-glx) which needs can be used only on a XF86 3.3.6 server. How can I express this ? Depends: xserver(4.0) does not work since xserver is a virtual package. What should work with dpkg 1.7.0 once that is ready if someone makes xserver

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-12 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Miros/law! On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Miros/law `Jubal' Baran wrote: 12.09.2000 pisze Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Don't change that. Beginners would be very confused if the keytable is not working as expected. Not everybody can work with a US keyboard table if the need arises.

Re: gettextized console-apt

2000-09-12 Thread kiwamu
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:16:04AM +1100, Patrick Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have added gettext-support to console-apt. The gettextized console-apt can print multi-lingual messages. Could you merge it into console-apt? Looks good Kiwamu, although it didn't compile when I did

Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-12 Thread Daniel Kobras
On 11 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. Daniel If nobody objects

Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-12 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-09-12 Daniel Kobras wrote: On 11 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a

RFA: Gmp3 - Adopt it or remove it right away?

2000-09-12 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hello! It isn't supported upstream anymore. Homepage is gone, mail to author bounces. Gmp3 isn't very nice and a little bit buggy for me. I don't have the knowledge and time to work at the source and don't feel like trying, either. If someone wants to jump in,

Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-12 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: You don't need a package maintainer to adopt the package for getting a new package uploaded. A sponsor for you and Martin would be enough to upload the package to the archive. Okay, sorry, wrong wording. That's what I had in mind. Someone to take

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread Keith G. Murphy
marty macdonald wrote: So far, the Linux kernel only supports single, not dual banjos. There is, however, a patch available that will make the 2.2 kernel support up to 15 banjos. The 2.4 kernel, of course, will support any number of banjos. (Well, 65535, but who needs more than that?) :-)

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-12 Thread ferret
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Dale E. Martin wrote: The problem I have here is that the 'appropriate device' is not guarenteed to stay constant with respect to the SCSI bus and ID, the way IDE devices are for example. On my system (I believe this is actually the default) scd devices are group

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Keith G. Murphy wrote: So far, the Linux kernel only supports single, not dual banjos. There is, however, a patch available that will make the 2.2 kernel support up to 15 banjos. The 2.4 kernel, of course, will support any number of banjos. (Well, 65535, but who

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:51:23AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: The 2.4 kernel, of course, will support any number of banjos. (Well, 65535, but who needs more than that?) :-) No-one needs more than 640 kilobytes of memory... Daniel -- /-

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 01:34:49PM +0200, Miros/law `Jubal' Baran wrote: Setting keymap _before_ /usr is mounted is an interesting approach to the system boot schema design, because include statements are in most keymap files (what can result in broken keymap). Keyboard mapping should be

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:48:14AM -0400, Dale E. Martin wrote: I can see how you arrived at the solution that you did now though. So far, you're the only person that's sent me email advocating SUID root. Would documenting that as a solution, and describing how to do it in Readme.Debian,

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-12 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
12.09.2000 pisze Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): That's why the includes are assembled into a self-contained keymap which is stored in /etc. Only if you use pre-supplied keymaps. When you use customized ones[1] it's not that easy. BTW: The correct approach to this would be to have

RE: RFA: Gmp3 - Adopt it or remove it right away?

2000-09-12 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
It isn't supported upstream anymore. Homepage is gone, mail to author bounces. Gmp3 isn't very nice and a little bit buggy for me. I don't have the knowledge and time to work at the source and don't feel like trying, either. I say ditch it. No sense filling up Debian with dead code.

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-12 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I have here is that the 'appropriate device' is not guarenteed to stay constant with respect to the SCSI bus and ID, the way IDE devices are for example. On my system (I believe this is actually the default) scd devices are group audio,

digest version broken?

2000-09-12 Thread Seth Cohn
I was getting both user and devel as digests, and both went quiet. I subscribed to both as digest again, in case I'd been knocked off the list, and still nothing, so I subscribed as non-digest and I'm getting email, enough that it should have kicked out a digest, but still no digest. Looks like

Restarting Build on a Package

2000-09-12 Thread Brent Fulgham
This is a stupid question, but I've never figured it out: Is there a way to restart a build of a package *AND* still be able to generate the source tarball and diff? I've tried the -nc option to dpkg-buildpackage, but it always omits the orig.tar.gz. I'm trying to bootstrap a program that takes

Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-12 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 11 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've

Re: Restarting Build on a Package

2000-09-12 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Brent Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to bootstrap a program that takes quite a while to build, and if it dies during configuration and I have to rebuild it again I'm going to pull my hair out. While you're trying to perfect the deb script, why don't you use 'debian/rules build'

Re: determining if we're using db.h from libc6 or libdb2?

2000-09-12 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
Ben Collins, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 12:46:02AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: Is there some set of defines such that I can determine with #ifdef that I've got a copy of glibc2 that has db.h as an include file? My plan is that if such a

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread marty macdonald
Thanks for the e-mail. But what about the effect of have a super conducting di-lithium crystal sub-lattice? Wouldn't this resonate and cause multi variable vibrations down to the molecular level? I mean, the whole thing here is to show the ultimate differences between the Linux kernel and the