Re: The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

2010-03-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 à 18:43 +0100, Thomas Koch a écrit : 
 Yes, it's this topic again. I've just had a short mail exchange with 
 crockford 
 himself. His final answer: If you cannot tolerate the license, then do not 
 use the software.
 
 Could you please give me a definitive Yes or No for the below license?


 The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.


Definitely non-free, and the author’s clarification removes any doubt.

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Re: The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

2010-03-26 Thread Måns Rullgård
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:

 Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 à 18:43 +0100, Thomas Koch a écrit : 
 Yes, it's this topic again. I've just had a short mail exchange
 with crockford himself. His final answer: If you cannot tolerate
 the license, then do not use the software.
 
 Could you please give me a definitive Yes or No for the below license?

 The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

 Definitely non-free, and the author's clarification removes any doubt.

It is certainly a bizarre licence, and it is clearly best to regard it
as non-free.  However, I suspect he'd have a very hard time enforcing
it in court.

IANAL

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Re: The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

2010-03-26 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!


Josselin Mouette schrieb:

 Yes, it's this topic again. I've just had a short mail exchange with 
 crockford 
 himself. His final answer: If you cannot tolerate the license, then do not 
 use the software.

 Could you please give me a definitive Yes or No for the below license?
[..]
 The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.
 Definitely non-free, and the author’s clarification removes any doubt.

Hmmm... Actually... As he didn't gave a definition of good or evil
one could argue, that everything is good... for someone.

However, I would strongly advise to not package that thing for Debian
main; it smells like problems.


Best regards,
  Alexander, not having his ftp-team hat on



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Re: The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

2010-03-26 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
 Josselin Mouette schrieb:
 Definitely non-free, and the author’s clarification removes any doubt.
 
 Hmmm... Actually... As he didn't gave a definition of good or evil
 one could argue, that everything is good... for someone.
 
 However, I would strongly advise to not package that thing for Debian
 main; it smells like problems.

We must not discriminate against fields of endeavor (so people wanting to do 
evil must be able to), but this license doesn't seem to restrict 
redistribution, thus making this Good but no Evil software suited for non-
free, no ?

Or did I misread your message ?

OdyX


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Re: The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

2010-03-26 Thread Joe Neal
 The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

Neither term has any objective meaning and there is no shortage of people with 
philosophy phds willing to state such as their expert opinion.  Assuming good 
and evil are both subjective terms, the license merely states that The 
Software shall be used for some task to be assigned a moral value by a third 
party at a later point in time.  

If the author wishes to toss around terms like good and evil  and claim 
the existence of any higher morality he should establish the grounding for 
such in the text of the license. 

It's meaningless claptrap.  Ignore it.

Sorry, I'm not a DD and know I have no say here.  I just couldn't pass this 
up.

JN



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