Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-10-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
has or has not a use for it). manoj fascinated by the strange cortortions of, umm, logic, and the lack thereof, that this discussion is taking -- A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back the when it begins to rain. Robert Frost Manoj

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Alternate disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, "Branden" == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden Is misspelling my name some new sport that I haven't been told about? You must admit that you rise beautifully to the bait every time ;-) manoj -- System going down in 5 minutes. Manoj Srivastav

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Alternate disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
evenge. Paul Gauguin Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- "You know, we've won awards for this crap." David Letterman Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- T

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e the path of birds through the sky. 92 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: The constitution and the social contract

2000-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- If I'd known computer science was going to be like this, I'd never have given up being a rock 'n' roll star. Hirst Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272

Re: The constitution and the social contract

2000-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
eet when I dream of you; All you are is a blossoming rose. Night is here so I must close. With care read the first word of each line. You will find a question of mine. Yours hopefully, The VAX. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 6

Re: Status of Proposals [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
to pass. For context, here are the two proposals as last seen on this list. manoj == Proposal A: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] == 4

Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
right having the constitution listed under foundation docs ... manoj -- A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do. Dennis M. Ritchie Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4

Re: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ce we have refeerred to them individually. manoj -- The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to itI can resist everything but temptation. -- Oscar Wilde Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 C

Re: Secret votes HOWTO

2001-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there." Frank Zappa Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print

Re: Secret votes HOWTO

2001-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
"Seth" == Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seth * Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010403 21:58]: It is simple enough. If the passowrd string is missing, then the advertised default could be to put the gpg id as the password. The user supplied string is not allow

Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled

2001-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
that the automated messages have now been stopped, and an opt-in method shall be implemented, time permitting, and therefore this proposal is now moot. manoj -- I believe in a God which doesn't need heavy financing. Fletch Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
sponsor appears) I would prefer that this discussion, now that we are in the formal discussion period, be moved over to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which was designed to serve such a purpose. manoj -- I don't do it for the money. Donald Trump, Art of the Deal Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
this proposed policy pass these tests? manoj -- Sweet sixteen is beautiful Bess, And her voice is changing -- from No to Yes. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
. manoj -- Here comes the orator, with his flood of words and his drop of reason. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
''? manoj -- I've already told you more than I know. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:37:23PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: I am certain many Bay area restaurants in silicon valley may also qualify. But that does not give Debian the right to determine policy for the restaurant

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:39:18PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: You are asking the wrong people here. Ask the owners of th4e resource -- the OPN folks. Raphael OPN people have replied here. They say that it's up to Raphael

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 09:43:25PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: I don't believe this. The only reason you brought this GR forth is because you had problems with a non debian controlled IRC channel operator? You had

Re: Proposed General Resolution : IRC as a Debian communicationchannel

2001-11-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, present on a channel run by the OPN in my capacity as an open source afficianado, I do not care what Debian has decided. Really. manoj -- That all men should be brothers is the dream of people who have no brothers. Charles Chincholles, Pensees de tout le monde Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL

Withdrawal of the General Resolution about IRC

2001-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
- -- Let him choose out of my files, his projects to accomplish. Shakespeare, Coriolanus Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24

Re: Withdrawal of the General Resolution about IRC

2001-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
day at a time. Dean Acheson Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU

The Debian vote taking machinery (Very Long)

2002-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
space on cvs.debian.org for debvote2. manoj -- Truth will out this morning. (Which may really mess things up.) Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272

Dummy run for the vote taking scripts

2002-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[ ] Choice 2: Green [ ] Choice 3: Blue [ ] Choice 4: None Of The Above - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - Manoj Srivastava -- I hate babies. They're so human. H.H. Munro Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R

ballot@vote.debian.org is active again

2002-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[EMAIL PROTECTED] again. manoj -- It takes a special kind of courage to face what we all have to face. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Bdale marked entries. That is indeed how the scripts work. manoj -- The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hoping when a rock or a club will do. McCloctnik the Lucid Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
PROTECTED] (Randal Schwartz) $_ = '-- '; s/../printf %c,hex($)/ge; 4a75737420616e6f74686572205065726c206861636b65722c Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493

Status update on the election

2002-03-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
translates roughly to a quorum of 100. We have 173 valid ballots, so, even allowing for revotes, the quorum has been met. I'll try and keep people posted. manoj -- Thyme's Law: Everything goes wrong at once. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta

Accountability and the secret ballot

2002-03-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
so such reordering is not feasible (it is hard to design a protocol to protect the vote from a malicious secretary). manoj -- Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday. George Carlin Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095

Re: Status update on the election

2002-03-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 08:27:59PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Quorum issues. We have currently 746 gpg keys, 479 pgp keys, and 1043 unique users in LDAP. LDAP does mention people who have left the project, so the actual

Re: Trying to determin the Quorum

2002-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
who tries to be a star. The more that you try to find success, the more that you will fail. Phil Ochs, on the Second System Effect Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print

Re: Trying to determin the Quorum

2002-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
means of doing so. manoj -- Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. Chesterton Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24

Re: Election status

2002-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
is often a noose. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Vote verification --- a futile exercise?

2002-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- it only makes it salty for the cat. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Vote verification --- a futile exercise?

2002-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
to apply the voting scripts to reproduce the results from the stored ballots upon a challenge. manoj -- I'll say it again for the logic impaired. --Larry Wall Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12

Re: Vote verification --- a futile exercise?

2002-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB

Re: Vote verification --- a futile exercise?

2002-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Election status

2002-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
in COBOL or FORTRAN. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Election status

2002-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
the official key rings. manoj -- Ad astra per aspera. [To the stars by aspiration.] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB

Re: Election status

2002-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Siward == Siward de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Siward Howdy Manoj and list ! Siward Manoj Srivastava wrote: Siward P.S. You wrote that Mickey Mouse voted for Bdale, Siwardwasnt that a breach of confidentiality !?! Keep your attributions straight: I never said

Re: Election status

2002-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, no father or any other relative. When a man is seized by that terminator, Death, there is no taking refuge in family. 288 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272

Re: Election status

2002-04-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Silva Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Quorum and factors of two [Was: Re: Status update on theelection]

2002-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
of the peace in some of the United States. [1913 Webster] -- Too cool to calypso, Too tough to tango, Too weird to watusi The Only Ones Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8

Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-04-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Manoj Srivastava (Debian Project Secretary) - -- The wheel of fortune turns incessantly round, and who can say within himself, I shall today be uppermost. -- Confucius Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095

Reminder and administrivia

2002-04-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
corner cases have not yet occurred). cloneproof_ssd.pl Description: cloneproof_ssd.pl manoj -- Nick the Greek's Law of Life: All things considered, life is 9 to 5 against. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68

Debian Project Leader Election 2002 Results

2002-04-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
= table =2D --=20 In the same way that even a felled tree will grow again if its root is strong and undamaged, so if latent desire has not been rooted out, then suffering shoots up again and again. 338 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivast= a/ 1024R/C7261095

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2002 Results

2002-04-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- Down that path lies madness. On the other hand, the road to hell is paved with melting snowballs. --Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C

Re: [atlarge-discuss] online voting

2002-05-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, The current voting system is slowly getting packaged; the name of the package is going to be devotee (DEbian VOTE Engine). It is, unfortunately, not really high on my list of things to do. manoj -- Never buy from a rich salesman. Goldenstern Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL

Re: [atlarge-discuss] online voting

2002-05-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
of anything happening is in direct proportion to the amount of trouble it will cause if it does happen. -- Sam W. Warren Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493

RFD: Reviving Constitutional amendment: Smith/Condorcet votetallying

2002-08-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, require super majority to pass. manoj - -- Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it. Linus Torvalds Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D

Re: RFD: Reviving Constitutional amendment: Smith/Condorcet votetallying

2002-10-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:27:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: -- A.3. Voting procedure 1. Each independent set of related amendments is voted

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
them to use the subscribe address (my subscribe address is never the address I post from). manoj -- Ever feel like life was a game and you had the wrong instruction book? Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
continuously together is... biologically speaking, an extremely unnatural condition. Robert Briffault Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
? Get a better mail processing system. Help set up a better filter on the mailing list. manoj -- General notions are generally wrong. Lady M.W. Montagu Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- For years a secret shame destroyed my peace-- I'd not read Eliot, Auden or MacNiece. But now I think a thought that brings me hope: Neither had Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Pope. Justin Richardson. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB

Re: RFD: Reviving Constitutional amendment: Smith/Condorcet votetallying

2002-11-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
serves excellent country food for lunch, including dumpling soup, pork and homemade ice cream. The waitress is friendly. Going from Moscow to Kiev is like going from New York to Texas. Rodgers, High tech in the Ukraine, E. E. Times, 8/13/90, p. 16 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Proposal - non-free software removal

2002-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
the first GR in the series, and reviving the others has always been my intent. manoj -- Unagitated amongst the agitated, at peace among the violent, without clinging among those who cling - that is what I call a brahmin. 406 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Re: Proposal - non-free software removal

2002-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: No, we actually went to having a GR proposed, wich is still alive, though currently on hold waiting for the voting GR. John My understanding was that the previous GR

[mike ossipoff ossipoff2002@yahoo.com] Cloneproof SSD program,with balloting

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
what the game is. Ashleigh Brilliant Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: supermajority options

2002-11-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Authority Rider's Rule #84: The CTA has complimentary pop-up timers available on request for overheated passengers. When your timer pops up, the driver will cheerfully baste you. Chicago Reader 5/28/82 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB

Re: supermajority options

2002-11-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:01PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think this is not really a matter of screwing up, this is a matter of, in some cases, avoiding the tyranny of the majority; Branden ...a platitude directly

Re: supermajority options

2002-11-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
of insincere voting (unless you include us in into the telepathy ring). manoj -- A wise man can see more from a mountain top than a fool can from the bottom of a well. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05

Re: supermajority options

2002-11-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- Photographing a volcano is just about the most miserable thing you can do. Robert B. Goodman [Who has clearly never tried to use a PDP-10. Ed.] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D

Re: Dec 15 voting amendment draft

2003-02-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
a terrifying apparition, he screamed. Then the heat made O.C. ralph in the bag. The Utterly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs, National Lampoon, October 1982 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections

2003-02-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, and the program makes an unexpected, though not necessarily wrong response. See BUG. That's not a bug, it's a feature! A bug can be changed to a feature by documenting it. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5

Re: Dec 15 voting amendment draft

2003-02-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Aj == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:12:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Under 4.2 Procedure [for developers during a general resolution or election , change item 3 to read: 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes and tallies results

Re: Dec 15 voting amendment draft

2003-02-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
what a Serial Port is. The answer is: I don't know. Is it some kind of wine you have with breakfast? Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections

2003-02-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
/. Nominations are not official until after the nomination period is over. manoj -- You have a message from the operator. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C

Re: Debian Project Leader Election

2003-02-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does India have some strange 0-indexed counting system? We did invent the 0, you know. manoj -- I predict that today will be remembered until tomorrow! Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

February 17th Voting GR draft

2003-02-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
. Options ranked below the default options are options they find unacceptable. __ -- A winner isn't nearly as afraid of losing as a loser is secretly afraid of winning. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Re: Please announce the IRC debate on debian-devel-announce

2003-03-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
: will the debate be published at vote.debian.org? http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200303/msg00012.html manoj -- Forbear to judge, for we are sinners all. -- Shakespeare Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4

Draft 4 of the ballot for Project Leder elections 2003

2003-03-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Michlmayr [ ] Choice 5: None Of The Above - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- I am a conscientious man, when I throw rocks at seabirds I leave no tern unstoned. Ogden Nash, Everybody's Mind to Me a Kingdom Is Manoj

DPL Election up to the minute status

2003-03-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
signature goes. Sniglets, Rich Hall Friends Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

High Rate of ballot rejections this year

2003-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
== -- If God is dead, who will save the Queen? Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: High Rate of ballot rejections this year

2003-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
8 Encrypted ballot 7 No Ballot116 == manoj -- Flattery will get you everywhere. Manoj Srivastava

Re: High Rate of ballot rejections this year

2003-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:30:01 +0100 (CET), Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava: gpg: verify signatures failed: unexpected data Encrypted Ballot 1 Uh, I thank that's me. Does this mean that one cannot cast the votes secretly, but must send them unencrypted? Or did I

Status of the elections

2003-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-devel as well manoj -- Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic. Arthur C. Clarke Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493

[Moshe Zadka m@moshez.org] Independent Count

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
to Dayton? Brian Boyle, UNIX/WORLD's First Annual Salary Survey Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C pgp0.pgp

Request for a vote recount

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
release - the way of such people is hard to follow, like the path of birds through the sky. 92 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24

Re: High Rate of ballot rejections this year

2003-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:21:33 +0100 (CET), Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava: Bottom line, so far there is no way to encrypt a ballot, and encrypting it to my key means it shan't get counted. That statement sounds a bit harsh. That it *will* not get counted I

Re: integrity of elections

2003-03-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
and can't, and the other half who have nothing to say and keep on saying it. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Results of Independent Vote Count

2003-03-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
on master.debian.org in the /org/vote.debian.org/bin directory. The cron script that calls them all can be found on master as ~srivasta/vote.cron That would be ~srivasta/bin/vote.cron manoj -- Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. Mark Harrold Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2003 Results

2003-03-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
entertainment value in watching people juggle nitroglycerin. Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Voting on voting systems amendment

2003-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
be happy to start the discussion then, unless Raul or AJ want to do it now. manoj -- A quarrel is quickly settled when deserted by one party; there is no battle unless there be two. Seneca Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2003 Results

2003-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
important things to be done on devotee than protecting against such astronomical odds. manoj -- Many changes of mind and mood; do not hesitate too long. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5

Re: ccing messages

2003-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
should reflect a little before throwing back images. Jean Cocteau Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Voting System Requirements

2003-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
for any debian developer? manoj -- You are an excellent tactician, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness. Khan Noonian Singh, Space Seed, stardate 3141.9 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095

Re: Voting System Requirements

2003-04-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:49:55 +0200, Jochen Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello, On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 09:50:05AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Umm, mention that the actual voting software shall soon be packaged (name: devotee), and is currently available for inspection for any

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD votetallying

2003-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
. ;-) manoj -- What do you call frogs sauteed in egg and milk? Fried toads. -- Lani Anderson Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD votetallying

2003-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
be no protests when the DPL or tech ctte act, no? manoj -- No sooner said than done -- so acts your man of worth. Quintus Ennius Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD votetallying

2003-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
(sorry:I've had less than an average of 5 hours of sleep a night for the last 10 days or so, and in my old age my faculties are failing me) manoj -- Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool mom. Manoj

Re: Don't allow ranking of options equal to default?

2003-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
and demand a beer as compensation. Bar Troubleshooting Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSDvotetallying

2003-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 28 May 2003 03:59:32 +0200, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Ah, so now it is a matter of determining intent. So, short of providing code for telepathically determining the voters intent, how can one cater to people who really find A unacceptable

Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying GR

2003-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
''~%2fgr_voting.blt; access-type=local-file: Unrecognized pgp2.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Don't let your status become too quo! Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966

Public key for the Voting GR

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
/BYkNGLyuqxMrXSWITAQYEQIADAUCPtglowUJABuvgAAKCRC8jfLPJlAH xYV4AJ0Z7Evk/EPO2h/DK6OqzkB8vQlQdwCgl2m0eJ8Aa7MuTOO8FKDfnrTiGo0= =kXR0 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- A child is a person who can't understand why someone would give away a perfectly good kitten. Doug Larson Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org

Call for votes for the Condorcet/Clone proof SSD voting methods GR

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
message, as quoted in the Christopher Report, 7/91 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD votetallying

2003-06-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:25:08 +1000, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:58:10PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Oh, as a sponsor of the GR, I suppose I should clarify that I am not going to accept this amendment; I consider it a bad one. This Then shouldn't we

Re: Third call for votes: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallyingGR

2003-06-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
quorum for this vote is met, I don't care what luddite reason you use for not voting. manoj -- If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. Linus Torvalds Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Final call for votes for the Condorcet/Cloneproof SSD votingmethods GR

2003-06-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:02:57 -0400, Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj == Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj Hi, In a little under 24 hours from now, at the time of Manoj writing, the polls shall close for the voting GR. The quorum Manoj has already been met, if you

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