Ian Jackson i...@davenant.greenend.org.uk:
Manoj Srivastava writes (I hereby resign as secretary):
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
I'd just like to join all the other people saying that it's sad that
we have come to this. As you know I haven't always
Manoj Srivastava writes (I hereby resign as secretary):
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
I'd just like to join all the other people saying that it's sad that
we have come to this. As you know I haven't always agreed with your
decisions :-) but they have always
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 04:13:37PM +, Michael Banck wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:00:26PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:57:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
Well, I haven't left, but I do far less with Debian now than I used
to.
It is still my preferred OS for a variety of reasons. (...)
I get no joy whatsoever out of the current mailing list
discussions. (...) We're here to make a
The problem is you can't wave a magic wand, and fix the community.
It's a self-feeding cycle which goes on and on and on. Even if we had
a Code of Conduct for Debian, unless it was strongly enforced, its the
same problem.
Whether the ballot was valid or not was immaterial, the response to it
was
Hi John,
very well said, thanks. I suggest everyone to go back and read his mail.
http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1483 is also a nice read about what working
together nicely can achieve. I miss that in Debian.
I have now decided to unsubscribe from -vote and -devel, the gain/pain ratio
has
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:57:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
Well, I haven't left, but I do far less with Debian now than I used
to.
It is still my preferred OS for a variety of reasons. I probably
shouldn't write this tired at 11:30PM, but here goes.
I get no joy whatsoever out of the
Now if only we could say positive things about people BEFORE they
resign, wouldn't this be a better place?
+1E6
John, thank you for taking the time to write and post that note. I couldn't
agree more.
When Manoj and I joined the Debian project, there were only a couple dozen of
us, and
we
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:00:26PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too. I am
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 07:47:50AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
project atmosphere. The only way we can get things back on track
and re-focus our energy on the real reason we are all here... to
create a free operating system...
I believe that part of the problem is that we are not all here to
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too. I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important the
project
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 05:04:55PM +, Ian Lynagh wrote:
project atmosphere. The only way we can get things back on track
and re-focus our energy on the real reason we are all here... to
create a free operating system...
I believe that part of the problem is that we are not all here
Noah Meyerhans no...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 05:04:55PM +, Ian Lynagh wrote:
I believe that part of the problem is that we are not all here to
create a free operating system. I have the impression that some
developers merely wish to create an operating system, or
Hi folks,
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
different people (different checks --LDAP.gpg. and others), and allowed
- Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
different people (different
On Thu Dec 18 08:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately
Thank you for your hard work in this post. I'm sorry to see that a few
zealots can cause so many hard working folks to consider leaving the
project. Personally, if we are to do
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi folks,
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 08:44 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too.
Regardless of what you did as the Secretary, I fail to see any reason to
also sprach Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org [2008.12.18.1544 +0100]:
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
too. I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important the
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org (18/12/2008):
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 08:44 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting
together a petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project,
I hear you too.
Regardless of what you
On 11603 March 1977, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
:( Sorry to hear that. Whoever is your follower *will* have a hard
time.
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition for the DAM to have me
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
petition
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you very much for your work in such a difficult role for so long.
Debian is certainly a better project for your efforts.
Mistakes happen. Mistakes can be recovered from. What can not,
Manoj,
As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
and honorable service as our secretary!
You have earned and retain my
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:44:34AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
and honorable
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:44:11 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
I'm sorry to hear about this decision.
Although I don't agree with some of your arguments around the current
GR, I have respect for you and your work, and I trust you
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:27:15PM +, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
On Friday 19 December 2008 01:44, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org
wrote:
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
I'm sad to hear this. I think that you have done a great job as secretary.
I concede that I have made mistakes with the current set
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:18:04AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
That is when Ian pointed out to me how true that was in the Linux
community. I wonder if Debian is exemplifying this behavior. A lot of
good people have retired lately.
It is starting to feel like that block of homes
[...] (Sorry for only focusing on the below point, it was a really nice, but at
the same time also scary read!)
One bright spot is that I think there are fewer poisonous people in
positions of authority in Debian now than in many points in its
history. We have a great leadership team,
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