Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, 2013/12/13 Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr Hi, Le 06/12/2013 19:39, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Michel, [...] Indeed. I find you quite shy in fact, and I'm serious. To me it does not look like you were ignored, rather that no one knows about it. Which is a problem

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-12 Thread Michel Renon
Hi, Le 06/12/2013 19:39, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Michel, [...] Indeed. I find you quite shy in fact, and I'm serious. To me it does not look like you were ignored, rather that no one knows about it. Which is a problem since the start. I wouldn't say I'm shy, I'm just polite and I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, Sorry for taking so long to respond -- I had a really busy week. 2013/12/6 Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr Hi Mirek, Le 27/10/2013 02:04, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi Michel, This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're welcome to swoop in and change it. :)

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Rofolfo, 2013/12/6 Rodolfo rodolf...@gmail.com Hi, Michel. I just want to say that I'd be glad to help on implementation of the Color picker once its design is done. Wonderful. Given that the GSoC project didn't come through and that there's still uncertainty as to whether themes will

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Michel, Le Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:09:37 +0100, Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr a écrit : Hi Charles, (Sorry for long delay in my answer, but busy in my daily work) Thanks for taking time to answer. I think that I should have introduced myself, in order to better explain my

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-05 Thread Michel Renon
Hi Charles, (Sorry for long delay in my answer, but busy in my daily work) Thanks for taking time to answer. I think that I should have introduced myself, in order to better explain my arguments : I'm a mechanical engineer, software engineer and teacher (in a professional way : I have

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-05 Thread Michel Renon
Le 27/10/2013 16:43, Cor Nouws a écrit : Mirek M. wrote (27-10-13 02:04) Hi Michel, This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're welcome to swoop in and change it. :) (Of course, the community also has to accept those changes.) The problem is that a process is started,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-05 Thread Rodolfo
Hi, Michel. I just want to say that I'd be glad to help on implementation of the Color picker once its design is done. I could do the Comment control on Writer ruler[1], because its proposal was clear enough to deploy[2]. Regards, Rodolfo [1]

[libreoffice-design] Welcome screen LO 4.2

2013-11-14 Thread Pavel Haratický
Hi all, I think that Welcome screen or Mock up for LO 4.2 heading towards perfections but I have some comments. * I prefer a little bit more design by Mateusz Zasuwik ( http://i.imgur.com/KWpS7tu.jpg - green sidebar on right and logo of LibreOffice in the right-down corner) then design

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-11-07 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Čt 07. 11. 2013 v 00:49 +0100: the last .src, and convert it to .ui) so that it is much easier for anybody in the design team to go, and just fix anything that looks ugly or does not behave as it should. Please, PLEASE, start using this power - just grab an .ui

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-11-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Cor, Michel, Cor Nouws píše v Ne 27. 10. 2013 v 18:00 +0100: I propose to mix those 2 points : - revert the code of the new start center : LO4.2 should keep the LO4.1 start center - start a new process to design a new new start center : [...] The biggest problem IMO at the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-11-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy Jan Holesovsky wrote (06-11-13 13:06) The thing is that now, thanks to the great Krisztian's work, the start center is just an .ui file that _anyone_ can edit in glade to make it nicer. I'd really like people here to understand that we have made a huge effort in the code base (and it

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-11-05 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, all, Mirek M. píše v St 30. 10. 2013 v 23:12 +0100: It'd be great if we could discuss this on the IRC chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC and reach a final destination -- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. If not, please comment here on specific parts of the proposals

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-31 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Could you also discuss this Issue please: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70978 I won't be in the Chat, but I have already given my voice in the bug report. Thanks Samuel Am 30.10.2013 23:12, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi guys, It'd be great if we could discuss this on the IRC chat this

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-30 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, It'd be great if we could discuss this on the IRC chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC and reach a final destination -- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. If not, please comment here on specific parts of the proposals and reasons why they are desirable/undesirable. Note that

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-28 Thread Sophie
Hi all, I just want to remind you the deadlines here so nobody is surprised if they are missed ;) - Kendy asked for a design for alpĥa 1 which is due for week 45 (November 4 to 10) - Hard feature freezed branched libreoffice-4-2 is due for week 47 (November 18 to 24) - Hard English string UI

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (27-10-13 16:43) You can diliver something that is not finished enough and say to the ones that are affected: pls repair :) Obviously should be You can't diliver something that is not finished enough and say to the ones that are affected: pls repair :) (You can, but it's

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're welcome to swoop in and change it. :) (Of course, the community also has to accept those changes.) If you'd like to do user studies, please be my guest. Right now, designs are based on heuristics [1], guidelines [2],

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-25 Thread Michel Renon
Hi, This thread makes me wake up from my silence for few months. I've already given up on working in the design team, because it's useless, but I wanted to express some comments and provide a clear answer to K-J. Thanks to Mateusz Zasuwik for his strong feedback ! But I see that there is no

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Michel, I feel I need to address some of your points without talking too much about the StartCenter proposal (which by the way I like very much). Comments inline. Le Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:37:03 +0200, Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr a écrit : Hi, This thread makes me wake up from my

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-24 Thread K-J LibreOffice
Hi Kendy, Mirek, *, Am 15.10.2013 10:45, schrieb Jan Holesovsky: [...] Terribly sorry - best to keep me CC'd for quick turnaround :-) I was more looking for a wallpaper (as K-J suggests) or the 'welcome information' (as Cor said) - I think it gives better first time experience than a 'no

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-24 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Kendy, Sorry for the late reply. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Ne 13. 10. 2013 v 18:05 +0200: Oh, when I noticed Kendy's mail I thought about something more like that: https://wiki.**

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-16 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
Hey Sorry, but he refused and pointed out that welcome sign is in lower left corner. I know that is not what you exactly expected, but it's only thing we have. Maybe he just doesn't have an idea for appropriate performance your concept? I will try to persuade him to take part in others tasks. --

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Ne 13. 10. 2013 v 18:05 +0200: Oh, when I noticed Kendy's mail I thought about something more like that: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/File:**Wallpaper-LibreOffice-2-** 1600px.pnghttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Wallpaper-LibreOffice-2-1600px.png

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mateusz, Mateusz Zasuwik píše v Po 14. 10. 2013 v 23:01 +0200: I asked him for better mockup and he did this. http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg Beautiful - thanks for this. This is of course easily possible to do, if the Design team consensus is that it should look this way. The best is

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 00:33 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: Mateusz Zasuwik wrote (14-10-13 23:01) Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is I rather imagine this was done by a GSOC student based on a design provided by the UX team :-) if the result is horrible,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it. The only missing piece (and that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup - can you please provide such a mockup too? I asked him for new concept but now

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
2013/10/15 Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.com Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it. The only missing piece (and that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup - can you please provide such a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-15 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Mateusz, Mateusz Zasuwik píše v Út 15. 10. 2013 v 13:28 +0200: Again - thanks for the mockup, I like it. The only missing piece (and that was what I was searching for in the first place) was what to show in case there are no recent documents in the left part of your mockup - can you

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Mirek, Kendy, *, Am 13.10.2013 18:05, schrieb Mirek M.: [...] Given that this picture would appear only if no document has been opened, I don't see the use of allowing customization of the upfront graphic. (That would just encourage people NOT to open any documents -- that's not what we

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
Hey Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I showed him new LibreOffice, he ask what is purpose of these small icons? Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have to say i really like it and its very similar to that of microsoft office and what microsoft works used to be. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is here any guy from UX

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
2013/10/14 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos f...@libreoffice.org Relax, take it easy. The screenshot is OBVIOUSLY not the final look. Thanks for your mock-up, though: I like it :-) Not so obvious for me. Actually I don't understand why the first version of new Start Center is so unintuitive and ugly

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Mateusz Zasuwik wrote (14-10-13 23:01) \ Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is It is when empty. Therefore the request from Kendy for something else. here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I showed him new LibreOffice, he ask

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi all, Le 14/10/2013 23:01, Mateusz Zasuwik a écrit : Hey Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I showed him new LibreOffice, he ask what is purpose of these small icons? Please

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-13 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Mirek, Kendy, Am 11.10.2013 18:54, schrieb Mirek M.: I imagine we could just go with something simple likehttps://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/raw/master/documents/documents-empty.pngor perhaps even a simple label like the No label screen on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Hi Mirek, Kendy, Am 11.10.2013 18:54, schrieb Mirek M.: I imagine we could just go with something simple likehttps://github.com/gnome-**design-team/gnome-mockups/raw/**

[libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-10 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, Maybe you have noticed in the daily builds the new Startcenter that LibreOffice 4.2 will come up with. It is focused on improving the user experience based on the assumption that the user very probably wants to edit documents he/she has edited in the past. But there is a problem - when they

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome

2011-06-14 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Budislav, Am 14.06.2011 01:14, schrieb Budislav Stepanov: I am student of Graphic Designs on University of Novi Sad, part of European University Network, I found this place where I think that i can show my abilities. Primarly I am web designer, but this includes almost all kind of graphic on