Re: core team disbands
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:47:19PM +, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: * David Dawes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 07:39:35PM +, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: Can someone explain what impact this actually has? I've got to be honest and admit to not actually understanding how the 'core team' releates to any other part of XFree. There you go. It was an anachronism that is no longer an issue :-) Indeed - but your announcement that the 'core team' ceases to exist has caused some confusion - I've heard a number of people interpret that as 'xfree is ceasing to exist'. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg11932.html David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: core team disbands
David Dawes wrote: I believe that this is an acknowlegement that the core team was no longer representative of the active, experienced and skilled XFree86 developers, or a place where technical discussion happens. Such an acknowledgement could have been derived long ago from the dissention within the project. People forking the codebase and others simply choosing to donate their skills and time elsewhere would have been enough of a clue. But before a griping thread develops, can you offer a framework of a new structure that will enable to project to move forward? Is there a plan to minimize the previous friction and encourage active participation in a wholesome development environment? Richard ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: core team disbands
Can someone explain what impact this actually has? I've got to be honest and admit to not actually understanding how the 'core team' releates to any other part of XFree. Dave -Open up your eyes, open up your mind, open up your code --- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert| Running GNU/Linux on Alpha,68K| Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | MIPS,x86,ARM,SPARC,PPC HPPA | In Hex / \ _|_ http://www.treblig.org |___/ ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: core team disbands
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 07:39:35PM +, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: Can someone explain what impact this actually has? I've got to be honest and admit to not actually understanding how the 'core team' releates to any other part of XFree. There you go. It was an anachronism that is no longer an issue :-) David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: core team disbands
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:27:15AM -0800, Richard A. Hecker wrote: David Dawes wrote: I believe that this is an acknowlegement that the core team was no longer representative of the active, experienced and skilled XFree86 developers, or a place where technical discussion happens. Such an acknowledgement could have been derived long ago from the dissention within the project. I advocated this move earlier in the year, but a majority of the core team didn't agree with me at that time. Fortunately that changed. People forking the codebase and others simply choosing to donate their skills and time elsewhere would have been enough of a clue. I don't see a problem with forked code bases, etc. I believe that variety and competition are healthy. Why force eveyone into the same mould? Giving people choices as to where and how they apply their skills can only increase the overall level of contributions. Everyone can choose the project that best suits them, or if none do, create their own. Anything else stifles creativity and innovation. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: core team disbands
David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 11:27:15AM -0800, Richard A. Hecker wrote: David Dawes wrote: I believe that this is an acknowlegement that the core team was no longer representative of the active, experienced and skilled XFree86 developers, or a place where technical discussion happens. Such an acknowledgement could have been derived long ago from the dissention within the project. I advocated this move earlier in the year, but a majority of the core team didn't agree with me at that time. Fortunately that changed. It sounds like it is a good thing... but still, what does it mean? People forking the codebase and others simply choosing to donate their skills and time elsewhere would have been enough of a clue. I don't see a problem with forked code bases, etc. I believe that variety and competition are healthy. Why force eveyone into the same mould? Giving people choices as to where and how they apply their skills can only increase the overall level of contributions. Everyone can choose the project that best suits them, or if none do, create their own. Anything else stifles creativity and innovation. Sure, choice is good... but forcing people to provide an alternate code base just because the primary code base is difficult to work with isn't good... it causes duplication of effort and animosity that otherwise would not be there. So, the question is, does the disbanding of the core team mean that the tree will be easier to contribute to directly, or is it just an internal change? Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
