Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:16:13AM +0300, Daniel Bainton wrote: > On 10/2/07, pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Does anyone has tryed "xcompmgr -Ffc" under dwm? :))) > > > > Quite eyecandy, but not much useful/fast...but nice to see. > > > > http://news.nopcode.org/without.png > > vs > > http://news.nopcode.org/with.png > > > > The yeahlaunch shadow is quite nice to see too, but you have > > to try it by yourself. I'm not planning to make a gif :P > > > > --pancake > > > What's that application runner program on the top right? Looks interesting. > > -- > Daniel That would be yeahlaunch. It can be found here: http://phrat.de/yeahtools.html yeahconsole is equally cool and very useful with dwm IMHO. -- Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 GNU/Linux pgpwxo8jrfCGg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 10/2/07, pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone has tryed "xcompmgr -Ffc" under dwm? :))) > > Quite eyecandy, but not much useful/fast...but nice to see. > > http://news.nopcode.org/without.png > vs > http://news.nopcode.org/with.png > > The yeahlaunch shadow is quite nice to see too, but you have > to try it by yourself. I'm not planning to make a gif :P > > --pancake What's that application runner program on the top right? Looks interesting. -- Daniel
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
xcompmgr -a is nice to avoid unnecesary window redraws. Otherwise i don't see the use. Maarten. On 10/2/07, pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone has tryed "xcompmgr -Ffc" under dwm? :))) > > Quite eyecandy, but not much useful/fast...but nice to see. > > http://news.nopcode.org/without.png > vs > http://news.nopcode.org/with.png > > The yeahlaunch shadow is quite nice to see too, but you have > to try it by yourself. I'm not planning to make a gif :P > > --pancake > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:00:15 +0200 > "James Hoving" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would say that the lines of code limit is very smart! It make you think > > before you change/add something, that is much better the wondering how > > things got so out of hand further down the road. Any idiot can make software > > do anything with unlimited space/resources. That is the reason we have so > > much stupid bloatware. > > > > PS. I run DWM without any patches since I see no need for them, the code > > does what it should and does it extremely well. > > > > > > On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source > > > code. > > > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > > > dropped around in master. > > > > > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > > > > > Happy hacking, > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org > > > > [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Julien Danjou > > > > // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info > > > > // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD > > > > > > > > > > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > > > > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? > > > > > > -- > > > Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac > > > GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc > > > Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 > > > GNU/Linux > > > > > > > > > --pancake > >
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
Does anyone has tryed "xcompmgr -Ffc" under dwm? :))) Quite eyecandy, but not much useful/fast...but nice to see. http://news.nopcode.org/without.png vs http://news.nopcode.org/with.png The yeahlaunch shadow is quite nice to see too, but you have to try it by yourself. I'm not planning to make a gif :P --pancake On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:00:15 +0200 "James Hoving" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say that the lines of code limit is very smart! It make you think > before you change/add something, that is much better the wondering how > things got so out of hand further down the road. Any idiot can make software > do anything with unlimited space/resources. That is the reason we have so > much stupid bloatware. > > PS. I run DWM without any patches since I see no need for them, the code > does what it should and does it extremely well. > > > On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source > > code. > > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > > dropped around in master. > > > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > > > Happy hacking, > > > Cheers, > > > > > > [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org > > > [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ > > > > > > -- > > > Julien Danjou > > > // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info > > > // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD > > > > > > > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? > > > > -- > > Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac > > GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc > > Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 > > GNU/Linux > > > > --pancake
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:20 +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: > What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Um, you haven't released dwm-4.5 yet! Cheers! -RPM
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 9/21/07, Anselm R. Garbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:08:49AM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote: > > I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being. > > What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Probably not much, but I don't have time to maintain a patch. It's ok that >4.3 does not have NMASTER, I will just stay with 4.3 and not bother you with any bug reports for 4.3, promised. Btw, what is the preferred way to use a custom config.h with 4.5?
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:08:49AM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote: > On 9/20/07, Sylvain Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > > > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > > > > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm > > > > > source code. > > > > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > > > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > > > > dropped around in master. > > > > > > > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > > > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > > > > > > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > > > > 1) config file > > > > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling > > > > > > Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER > > > but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch > > > for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be > > such a bad idea for such patchable window manager. > > I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being. What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe >< http://www.suckless.org/ >< GPG key: 0D73F361
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 9/20/07, Sylvain Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm > > > > source code. > > > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > > > dropped around in master. > > > > > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > > > > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > > > 1) config file > > > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling > > > > Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER > > but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch > > for a long time. > > > > > > > > Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be > such a bad idea for such patchable window manager. I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being.
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source > > > code. > > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > > dropped around in master. > > > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > > 1) config file > > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling > > Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER > but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch > for a long time. > > > Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be such a bad idea for such patchable window manager.
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > dropped around in master. > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > 1) config file > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch for a long time.
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > dropped around in master. > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > 1) config file > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling > Forget about 1). Using config.h saves us from incompatibilites and makes it possible to use C macros to make the hotkey definitions cleaner by for example using #define RDESKTOP "rdesktop ".
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > dropped around in master. > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. > > What I miss right now from dwm are: > 1) config file > 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling > > Btw, what about making your git repo available to people behind company > firewalls by publishing it via ftp or http? Sorry, I should have posted that to awesome's mailinglist instead.
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On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > dropped around in master. > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Btw, what about making your git repo available to people behind company firewalls by publishing it via ftp or http?
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At 1190296032 time_t, Jeremy O'Brien wrote: > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? Not at all. I think the idea is quite stupid, YMMV. Smart people can have weird idea, I'm sure you're aware about that ;-) -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD
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On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? I wouldn't have used the word "stupid", but I personally think excessively concentrating on SLOC tends to lead to more contorted, difficult to read/modify code than making the goal that "programs have a well-defined purpose with no more AND NO LESS features than are relevant for this purpose". I particularly thinks it's a mistake to remove well-thought out, useful features because "it removes lines of code". -- cheers, dave tweed__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rm 124, School of Systems Engineering, University of Reading. "we had no idea that when we added templates we were adding a Turing- complete compile-time language." -- C++ standardisation committee
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
Hi, * Jeremy O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-20 15:51]: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: [...] > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? "This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions." is Anselm calling all novices stupid with this? Get a life. Cheers Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpl02DOw9GFa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
I would say that the lines of code limit is very smart! It make you think before you change/add something, that is much better the wondering how things got so out of hand further down the road. Any idiot can make software do anything with unlimited space/resources. That is the reason we have so much stupid bloatware. PS. I run DWM without any patches since I see no need for them, the code does what it should and does it extremely well. On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source > code. > > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > > dropped around in master. > > > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > > > Happy hacking, > > Cheers, > > > > [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org > > [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ > > > > -- > > Julien Danjou > > // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info > > // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD > > > > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." > > That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? > > -- > Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac > GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc > Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 > GNU/Linux > >
Re: [dwm] Announcing "awesome"
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hi everybody, > > With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project > called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. > > awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. > In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. > Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people > dropped around in master. > > Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list > which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. > > Happy hacking, > Cheers, > > [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org > [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ > > -- > Julien Danjou > // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info > // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD > "there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want." That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? -- Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 GNU/Linux pgpCTqG68X0R0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[dwm] Announcing "awesome"
Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called "awesome"[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Happy hacking, Cheers, [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD
