Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-22 Thread Sebastian Dziallas

Danishka Navin wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

Let's use the Fedora education mailing list, instead of cross posting.


+1 :)

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Danishka Navin < danishka gmail com > 
wrote:
 

Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts,
Electronics, etc
for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also
evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
doesn't really

make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, right?

  

for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a
'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.
That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best 
suited

program(s).


Yep! "Best suited programs" sounds good to me. Unfortunately, somebody 
needs to define, what is best suited. But this sounds again like a 
beginning... ;)



Well it is not exactly what I am doing for electronics.
For electronics, I'm focussing on bringing opensource electronics
simulation software from the "geek planet" to the more industrial or
university level.
Thereby there are some set of rules of maintenance of the FEL Livedvd.
Example: ST Microelectronics is using Fedora in its design centres.
That is why I'm pushing the mindset of FEL contributors to a more
professional orientation.
In other words, we are not packagers anymore but CAD engineers for
fedora. Since big EDA vendors are on the edge of opensourcing some of
their tools (read my blog for more details). I'm hoping that with FEL
established ground we can help them opt for an opensource license.
Just a win-win situation for the global opensource communities.

Hence FEL's roadmap is to reduce the gap of data exchange and tools
from the commercial and open source environment. Unfortunately there
is no perfect EDA tool. But having concrete and latest research data
on silicon, we can improve our ASIC tools. If FEL ships outdated tools
with respect to the technological race and not to package versions,
then FEL has missed its goals.

  


Thanks for your  update.

I hope I didn't lose you. I believe that a single Fedora Edu Spin
should be more educational oriented (8-18 years).

I guess for edu-spin one has to establish or Identify the real needs
(in the real world, not on 'geek planet') and ways to solve/satisfy
that need. We need a leader for the edu-spin who has "education" in
mind.
  
Recently I had a descution with Chief Project Officer of the National 
Institute of Education Sri Lanka.

He is very much interest on Fedora as it a FOSS product.
He asked about availability of all kind educational software for school 
students and teachers.
I can get their support for the userTesting/ feedback but this is from a 
specific region.


That would be great! I think any kind of feedback would be helpful, 
since it would aid to get an idea of what is really needed.


Apart from education software itself we have to add localization effort 
to make it more convenient for all regions.

I think more than 70 languages working for the Fedora l10n.

Danishka


Well, I think we need to have a concept of what to include and what not 
to include. We need to be kind of careful about selecting applications.


But nevertheless, I think you're right: We also need to offer some kind 
of localization, since we don't want to exclude non-English-speaking 
countries, right?


On the other hand, we also need to think about the size: Do we really 
want a DVD image? In some places, DVDs might be too expensive to use.


I've still some stuff around here from the days of Fedora 8, when I 
started working on such a spin. It might be worth looking at over the 
holidays. I'll dig into this and hopefully come up with some ideas.


Happy holidays everyone and have a merry Christmas!

--Sebastian

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Re: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Danishka Navin

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

Let's use the Fedora education mailing list, instead of cross posting.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Danishka Navin < danishka gmail com > wrote:
  

Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts,
Electronics, etc
for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also
evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it doesn't really
make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, right?

  

for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a
'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.
That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best suited
program(s).



Well it is not exactly what I am doing for electronics.
For electronics, I'm focussing on bringing opensource electronics
simulation software from the "geek planet" to the more industrial or
university level.
Thereby there are some set of rules of maintenance of the FEL Livedvd.
Example: ST Microelectronics is using Fedora in its design centres.
That is why I'm pushing the mindset of FEL contributors to a more
professional orientation.
In other words, we are not packagers anymore but CAD engineers for
fedora. Since big EDA vendors are on the edge of opensourcing some of
their tools (read my blog for more details). I'm hoping that with FEL
established ground we can help them opt for an opensource license.
Just a win-win situation for the global opensource communities.

Hence FEL's roadmap is to reduce the gap of data exchange and tools
from the commercial and open source environment. Unfortunately there
is no perfect EDA tool. But having concrete and latest research data
on silicon, we can improve our ASIC tools. If FEL ships outdated tools
with respect to the technological race and not to package versions,
then FEL has missed its goals.

  


Thanks for your  update.

I hope I didn't lose you. I believe that a single Fedora Edu Spin
should be more educational oriented (8-18 years).

I guess for edu-spin one has to establish or Identify the real needs
(in the real world, not on 'geek planet') and ways to solve/satisfy
that need. We need a leader for the edu-spin who has "education" in
mind.
  
Recently I had a descution with Chief Project Officer of the National 
Institute of Education Sri Lanka.

He is very much interest on Fedora as it a FOSS product.
He asked about availability of all kind educational software for school 
students and teachers.
I can get their support for the userTesting/ feedback but this is from a 
specific region.


Apart from education software itself we have to add localization effort 
to make it more convenient for all regions.

I think more than 70 languages working for the Fedora l10n.

Danishka

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Re: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
Let's use the Fedora education mailing list, instead of cross posting.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Danishka Navin < danishka gmail com > wrote:
>>> Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts,
>>> Electronics, etc
>>> for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
>>
>> Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also
>> evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it doesn't really
>> make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, right?
>>
> for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a
> 'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.
> That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
> He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best suited
> program(s).

Well it is not exactly what I am doing for electronics.
For electronics, I'm focussing on bringing opensource electronics
simulation software from the "geek planet" to the more industrial or
university level.
Thereby there are some set of rules of maintenance of the FEL Livedvd.
Example: ST Microelectronics is using Fedora in its design centres.
That is why I'm pushing the mindset of FEL contributors to a more
professional orientation.
In other words, we are not packagers anymore but CAD engineers for
fedora. Since big EDA vendors are on the edge of opensourcing some of
their tools (read my blog for more details). I'm hoping that with FEL
established ground we can help them opt for an opensource license.
Just a win-win situation for the global opensource communities.

Hence FEL's roadmap is to reduce the gap of data exchange and tools
from the commercial and open source environment. Unfortunately there
is no perfect EDA tool. But having concrete and latest research data
on silicon, we can improve our ASIC tools. If FEL ships outdated tools
with respect to the technological race and not to package versions,
then FEL has missed its goals.

I hope I didn't lose you. I believe that a single Fedora Edu Spin
should be more educational oriented (8-18 years).

I guess for edu-spin one has to establish or Identify the real needs
(in the real world, not on 'geek planet') and ways to solve/satisfy
that need. We need a leader for the edu-spin who has "education" in
mind.

Chitlesh


>> Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How
>> about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time doesn't
>> work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!
>>
>> Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!
>>
>> --Sebastian

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Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Danishka Navin

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Danishka Navin wrote:

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
 wrote:

[...] snip!

I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
sofwares.

Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.

I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
software.

[...] snip!


Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.


Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
[1] for educational stuff.

I have joined to the team


Welcome and thanks for joining! :)

But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
to look at the feature page here [3].


Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.


For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
happy to welcome you!


I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.


But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
list of the software you want use would be great.



Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.


This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!


Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
possible) school education subjects.


Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc

for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
programs, right?


Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know! 
1800 UTC (local time ~ 2330) is not convenient for me  during next week. 
( I am away from home)

How about  Thursday or Friday at UTC 1200 or 1300?

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Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Danishka Navin

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Danishka Navin wrote:

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
 wrote:

[...] snip!

I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
sofwares.

Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.

I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
software.

[...] snip!


Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.


Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
[1] for educational stuff.

I have joined to the team


Welcome and thanks for joining! :)

But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
to look at the feature page here [3].


Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.


For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
happy to welcome you!


I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.


But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
list of the software you want use would be great.



Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.


This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!


Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
possible) school education subjects.


Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc

for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
programs, right?


for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a 
'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.

That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best 
suited program(s).


Danishka

Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!


Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!

--Sebastian




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Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Danishka Navin

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Danishka Navin wrote:

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin 
 wrote:

[...] snip!

I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational 
sofwares.

Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.

I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational 
software.

[...] snip!


Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.


Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group 
[1] for educational stuff.

I have joined to the team


Welcome and thanks for joining! :)

But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab 
from spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical 
applications. If you want to get further information, you might want 
to look at the feature page here [3].


Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm 
still hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.


For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to 
get something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also 
happened some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be 
happy to welcome you!


I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe 
a spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or 
scientific goals) concerning the creation of a spin.


But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a 
list of the software you want use would be great.



Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.


This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!


Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but 
possible) school education subjects.


Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc

for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should 
also evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it 
doesn't really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry 
programs, right?




yes, exactly
Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!


my nick name is 'hanthana'

Sorry, Monday I have to travel to Matale via Kandy for my 1st 
two_day_workshop.

Btw, Right now I am online :)

Danishka


Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!

--Sebastian


Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
in your region who might help you as well for your events.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

Kind regards,
Chitlesh


By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].

Yes, I did :)

And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).


Sure!


--Sebastian

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
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Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Sebastian Dziallas

Danishka Navin wrote:

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin  
wrote:

[...] snip!

I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.

I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.

[...] snip!


Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.


Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group [1] 
for educational stuff.

I have joined to the team


Welcome and thanks for joining! :)

But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab from 
spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical applications. If 
you want to get further information, you might want to look at the 
feature page here [3].


Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm still 
hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.


For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to get 
something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also happened 
some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be happy to 
welcome you!


I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe a 
spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or scientific 
goals) concerning the creation of a spin.


But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a list 
of the software you want use would be great.



Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.


This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!


Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but possible) 
school education subjects.


Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc

for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.


Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also 
evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it doesn't 
really make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, 
right?


Maybe we should just have a quick meeting on IRC, if you want to. How 
about this Monday, 1800 UTC on #fedora-edu on Freenode? If this time 
doesn't work for you or somebody else here around, please let me know!


Rex? What do you think? And others: Of course, you're invited to join!

--Sebastian


Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
in your region who might help you as well for your events.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

Kind regards,
Chitlesh


By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].

Yes, I did :)

And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).


Sure!


--Sebastian

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
[3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list


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Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

2008-12-20 Thread Danishka Navin

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Danishka Navin  
wrote:

Hi Chitlesh,

How are you?
Next week I have two workshops for school teachers and it mainly for
non-tech and windows based school teachers . Basically I will give 
them a

hands on training for how to install Fedora, updates, and relevant
educational packages.

More over I will do few more workshops  for the next year as well.

Can you do me a favor?

I need kind of extended version of FEL. :)
As you setup the FEL DVD is just 1.2GB.
Could you make  a DVD iso by adding other Fedora educational sofwares.
Then teachers can work on other educational SW on the same DVD.

I am not asking to change your FEL DVD structure.
Let it be 1.2GB as you did.
Pls give me a new iso which includes both FEL and Educational software.

* Why I can't do it myself?
Here I have a poor ADSL connectivity.
So, running a script and downloading hole stuff for trial and error 
is much

difficult.

So, pls help me. I really want to spread FEL with other Fedora 
stuff. :)


Waiting for  a positive response.

Best Regards,
Danishka



Dear Danishka,

I'm happy to hear from you and your workshops.

If you install Fedora Electronic Lab, you can yum install all
educational software.
Likewise if you install fedora from the standard iso, you can still
yum install any electronic software.

Unfortunately I can't merge electronic and educational software in the
FEL Livedvd iso for the following reasons:
- I am the only one maintaining FEL as full-time
- the use of educational software is vast and targets various
categories of users (astronomy, biology, math,..). for each one of
them the age of the users should be taken into account. We had a
Fedora Educational spin in the past. I'm CC: the fedora board mailing
list hoping someone can revive and maintain a Fedora Education spin.


Ping! Hi there :)

Well, we've an education spin, as well as a special interest group [1] 
for educational stuff.

I have joined to the team


But, er... I need to admit, the spin which you can currently grab from 
spins.fedoraproject.org only includes mathematical applications. If 
you want to get further information, you might want to look at the 
feature page here [3].


Unfortunately, it became quite calm around the Edu SIG, but I'm still 
hoping that this doesn't need to be the end.


For example, you could add your name to the wiki and we can try to get 
something off the ground :). Our last meeting on IRC also happened 
some time ago - if you're interested in joining, I'd be happy to 
welcome you!


I've been working on some Sugar & OLPC stuff recently, but I believe a 
spin with educational or scientific apps is still heavily needed. 
Maybe we should also expand our goals: Just focusing on mathematical 
applications might have been not the best idea. Maybe we could also 
cooperate with other groups in Fedora (with educational or scientific 
goals) concerning the creation of a spin.


But I still feel that without feedback or ideas from other people, 
it's somehow hard to get something started. Like Chitlesh said, a list 
of the software you want use would be great.



Maybe if you give us a list of software you wish to have for your
workshops, maybe fedora can spin a special LiveDVD for your workshops
while you will promote fedora. I ask the approval from Fedora Board
for such a spin through this email.


This might be a solution, too. But nevertheless, I think feedback or 
ideas concerning a possible spin would be very helpful!


Hi Sebastian,

My target is adding possible software's which covers  all (but possible) 
school education subjects.


Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts, 
Electronics, etc

for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.



Thereby I invite you to join our Fedora Ambassador Project and be one
of our Fedora Ambassadors. You can also meet other Fedora Ambassadors
in your region who might help you as well for your events.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

Kind regards,
Chitlesh


By the way: You might also want to join our mailing list [3].

Yes, I did :)

And please don't hesitate to contact me directly ;).


Sure!


--Sebastian

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EducationMathSpin
[3] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list



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