Re: [Felvtalk] Food, Bad Jokes, Good Vets

[dlgegg]

I solved the water situation with a Pioneed water fountain.  They love the 
water movement, it filters the water and if yoiu add a few ice cubes to bob 
around, they really like it.  They drink much more than they did with water 
bowls.

 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> No problem about the joke. I was also joking when I said your remark
> almost gave me a heart attack.
> 
> Re: FOOD -  None of my 13 rescued cats like the grain free foods
> either. They also don't like Friskies canned, but I worry about too
> much dry food. It easier to feed, but they need more moisture so they
> get Fancy Feast once a day (expensive with 13 cats) but thats all
> they want. The rest of the time they get dry food, but I cannot free 
> feed as I have 4 who are overweight. So they all get fed individually
> and I've discovered many of them like a bit of water on their dry
> food, which is good because this way I'm sure they are getting enough
> liquids.
> 
> As for myself I eat as healthy as I can. Junk food actually  turns my
> stomach now as does fried food. I've been eating this way for about
> 30 years now, and I really love veggies, whole grains, and very little
> meat. What meat I eat is always braised or baked.  It must be working
> as my blood work is perfect at age 84, but I still got arthritis and
> it's VERY painful.  I figure I'll live to be 100 and be in pain the 
> entire time :-(   Well I have to outlive all these cats so I'll deal 
> with it.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> 
> On 03-11, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> > 
> > First... my apologies to those who did not get IMMEDIATELY that I was 
> > joking about using a knife to remove Jelly's fluid  I thought it 
> > would be a foregone conclusion anyone  one who takes the time to BE in 
> > this forum would ever do such a thing be it from cruelty or monumental 
> > stupidity   Such are the drawbacks of email communication...minus 
> > facial cues and voice tone...  there are only words on a page.
> > 
> > Re  FOOD:  This is argued perpetually even among vets and animal 
> > nutritionists... There is the " raw only" camp the don't EVER let 
> > your cat touch grain camp... The ONLY wet food camp... the Use Multiple 
> > sources of protein camp( don't stay with the same food camp vs...stay 
> > with the same food camp)ad nauseum.. I am personally an 
> > excellent human example of how genetics influences health... I am a 
> > walking heart attack ( apart from my tendency to like exercise and keep 
> > somewhat active).. On a limited budget now...and ,even when I had money, 
> > so seldom home.. I have been eating " wrong" my entire life.. Meanwhile 
> > a recent Cardiac Vessel Calcium test found my vessels 100% clear ( MD 
> > says I'm good for 10 more years minimum)... 3 friends that have eaten 
> > "right" for decades have recently been Dx'd with heart issues... 
> > Unfair...yes... but fact.    *** The only thing I can somewhat control 
> > that concerns me a lot is making sure that my cats get enough fluid so I 
> > try to be sure that they ( he) get some wet food daily in addition to 
> > the water he drinks Don't know that it's a deal breaker but it makes 
> > ME feel better.
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food, Bad Jokes, Good Vets

[Lorrie]

Hi Robert,

No problem about the joke. I was also joking when I said your remark
almost gave me a heart attack.

Re: FOOD -  None of my 13 rescued cats like the grain free foods
either. They also don't like Friskies canned, but I worry about too
much dry food. It easier to feed, but they need more moisture so they
get Fancy Feast once a day (expensive with 13 cats) but thats all
they want. The rest of the time they get dry food, but I cannot free 
feed as I have 4 who are overweight. So they all get fed individually
and I've discovered many of them like a bit of water on their dry
food, which is good because this way I'm sure they are getting enough
liquids.

As for myself I eat as healthy as I can. Junk food actually  turns my
stomach now as does fried food. I've been eating this way for about
30 years now, and I really love veggies, whole grains, and very little
meat. What meat I eat is always braised or baked.  It must be working
as my blood work is perfect at age 84, but I still got arthritis and
it's VERY painful.  I figure I'll live to be 100 and be in pain the 
entire time :-(   Well I have to outlive all these cats so I'll deal 
with it.

Lorrie



On 03-11, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> 
> First... my apologies to those who did not get IMMEDIATELY that I was 
> joking about using a knife to remove Jelly's fluid  I thought it 
> would be a foregone conclusion anyone  one who takes the time to BE in 
> this forum would ever do such a thing be it from cruelty or monumental 
> stupidity   Such are the drawbacks of email communication...minus 
> facial cues and voice tone...  there are only words on a page.
> 
> Re  FOOD:  This is argued perpetually even among vets and animal 
> nutritionists... There is the " raw only" camp the don't EVER let 
> your cat touch grain camp... The ONLY wet food camp... the Use Multiple 
> sources of protein camp( don't stay with the same food camp vs...stay 
> with the same food camp)ad nauseum.. I am personally an 
> excellent human example of how genetics influences health... I am a 
> walking heart attack ( apart from my tendency to like exercise and keep 
> somewhat active).. On a limited budget now...and ,even when I had money, 
> so seldom home.. I have been eating " wrong" my entire life.. Meanwhile 
> a recent Cardiac Vessel Calcium test found my vessels 100% clear ( MD 
> says I'm good for 10 more years minimum)... 3 friends that have eaten 
> "right" for decades have recently been Dx'd with heart issues... 
> Unfair...yes... but fact.    *** The only thing I can somewhat control 
> that concerns me a lot is making sure that my cats get enough fluid so I 
> try to be sure that they ( he) get some wet food daily in addition to 
> the water he drinks Don't know that it's a deal breaker but it makes 
> ME feel better.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Food, Bad Jokes, Good Vets

[dlgegg]

I was not realy going to report you for cruelty, you are in this group so I 
know better.  Just giving you a rough time.  
re:food
I have a rough time getting my pride to eat canned food.  I mix it with hot 
water to make it smell better.  They drink the broth and leave the meat. Can't 
figure that one out.  They do not like fish flavored food, not even when I fix 
fresh wild caught salmon or tuna. 
Harley especially wants to eat everything I eat, it just might be something he 
likes.  I have to cook for all of us, take out for him and then season with 
garlic for myself.  So I stick with Blue Buffalo duck, red meat or rabbit.  
They attack the bag before I can get it open.  I used to feed Hills Science 
Diet until they were one of the companies caught in the big food scandal that 
was killing off dogs, cats and some seniors who could not afford regular food.  
Plus it had grains and most of my pride are allergic to them, especially soy.  
They were constantly vomiting as soon as they ate it.  A waste of expensive 
food.  I also have 2 water fountains (one in each end of the house) and they 
are now drinking more water, especially when I add a few ice cubes that bounce 
around in the water.  We like to watch them and try to catch them.
Since they eat the food, it is cheaper in the long run because it does not go 
to waste. The only time anyone vomits is when Harley pounce on them right after 
eating.  His mission in life is to aggrevate everyone in the house.  He is the 
only one who goes outside, catches a mouse, schrew or vole and then spends his 
time sleeping on the deck.  Dee and Annie go out for a sunny nap which is good 
because they get their vitamin d.  Homie, a former feral has taken a sudden 
dislike to outside.  I think she has a good thing going and does not want to 
loose it.  On sunny days I make her go out with me for her vitamin k.  
 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 
First... my apologies to those who did not get IMMEDIATELY that I was 
joking about using a knife to remove Jelly's fluid  I thought it 
would be a foregone conclusion anyone  one who takes the time to BE in 
this forum would ever do such a thing be it from cruelty or monumental 
stupidity   Such are the drawbacks of email communication...minus 
facial cues and voice tone...  there are only words on a page.

Re  FOOD:  This is argued perpetually even among vets and animal 
nutritionists... There is the " raw only" camp the don't EVER let 
your cat touch grain camp... The ONLY wet food camp... the Use Multiple 
sources of protein camp( don't stay with the same food camp vs...stay 
with the same food camp)ad nauseum.. I am personally an 
excellent human example of how genetics influences health... I am a 
walking heart attack ( apart from my tendency to like exercise and keep 
somewhat active).. On a limited budget now...and ,even when I had money, 
so seldom home.. I have been eating " wrong" my entire life.. Meanwhile 
a recent Cardiac Vessel Calcium test found my vessels 100% clear ( MD 
says I'm good for 10 more years minimum)... 3 friends that have eaten 
"right" for decades have recently been Dx'd with heart issues... 
Unfair...yes... but fact.    *** The only thing I can somewhat control 
that concerns me a lot is making sure that my cats get enough fluid so I 
try to be sure that they ( he) get some wet food daily in addition to 
the water he drinks Don't know that it's a deal breaker but it makes 
ME feel better.
I also subscribe to keeping grains to a minimum since cats are obligate 
carnivores... I doubt that grains are going to kill them but why force 
their bodies to learn to digest something they were not constructed to 
utilize unless you really cannot afford better quality cat food... When 
my family had the most cats ( when I was young) there WERE no such 
specialty cat foods and I had a few VERY healthy cats ( all of them were 
indoor/outdoor kitties so some were taken before their time) who all ate 
the same garbage cat food ( puss'n boots from a can...later tender 
vittles.. and other high grain content foods) and lived to 20 years 
old...  In the shelter our cats are all fed the same diet 
initiallysome thrive... others develop diseases within months on 
Science Diet ( their non specialty mid range general cat food)... So... 
I buy the best food I can afford ( and that they will eat) and hope for 
the best... currently my boy ( formerly my boys) is on grain free 
Natural Balance Pea and Venison ( not cheap) and Friskies Pate in the 
evening ( my guy will NOT eat any of the high end canned food I offer 
him and I went through a year of spending LOTS of money trying 
everything so that my sick cat Yogi would eat wet food that had some 
medicine mixed in... Baby Food at 109.00 a night... chicken, pork etc... 
that I cooked myself) Neither would touch " quality" wet food...  Now my 
remaining guy LOVES friskies pate and I LOVE that it costs 50cents a 
can!!!... 

Re: [Felvtalk] Food, Bad Jokes, Good Vets

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

First... my apologies to those who did not get IMMEDIATELY that I was 
joking about using a knife to remove Jelly's fluid  I thought it 
would be a foregone conclusion anyone  one who takes the time to BE in 
this forum would ever do such a thing be it from cruelty or monumental 
stupidity   Such are the drawbacks of email communication...minus 
facial cues and voice tone...  there are only words on a page.


Re  FOOD:  This is argued perpetually even among vets and animal 
nutritionists... There is the " raw only" camp the don't EVER let 
your cat touch grain camp... The ONLY wet food camp... the Use Multiple 
sources of protein camp( don't stay with the same food camp vs...stay 
with the same food camp)ad nauseum.. I am personally an 
excellent human example of how genetics influences health... I am a 
walking heart attack ( apart from my tendency to like exercise and keep 
somewhat active).. On a limited budget now...and ,even when I had money, 
so seldom home.. I have been eating " wrong" my entire life.. Meanwhile 
a recent Cardiac Vessel Calcium test found my vessels 100% clear ( MD 
says I'm good for 10 more years minimum)... 3 friends that have eaten 
"right" for decades have recently been Dx'd with heart issues... 
Unfair...yes... but fact.    *** The only thing I can somewhat control 
that concerns me a lot is making sure that my cats get enough fluid so I 
try to be sure that they ( he) get some wet food daily in addition to 
the water he drinks Don't know that it's a deal breaker but it makes 
ME feel better.
I also subscribe to keeping grains to a minimum since cats are obligate 
carnivores... I doubt that grains are going to kill them but why force 
their bodies to learn to digest something they were not constructed to 
utilize unless you really cannot afford better quality cat food... When 
my family had the most cats ( when I was young) there WERE no such 
specialty cat foods and I had a few VERY healthy cats ( all of them were 
indoor/outdoor kitties so some were taken before their time) who all ate 
the same garbage cat food ( puss'n boots from a can...later tender 
vittles.. and other high grain content foods) and lived to 20 years 
old...  In the shelter our cats are all fed the same diet 
initiallysome thrive... others develop diseases within months on 
Science Diet ( their non specialty mid range general cat food)... So... 
I buy the best food I can afford ( and that they will eat) and hope for 
the best... currently my boy ( formerly my boys) is on grain free 
Natural Balance Pea and Venison ( not cheap) and Friskies Pate in the 
evening ( my guy will NOT eat any of the high end canned food I offer 
him and I went through a year of spending LOTS of money trying 
everything so that my sick cat Yogi would eat wet food that had some 
medicine mixed in... Baby Food at 109.00 a night... chicken, pork etc... 
that I cooked myself) Neither would touch " quality" wet food...  Now my 
remaining guy LOVES friskies pate and I LOVE that it costs 50cents a 
can!!!... plus I toss him a bit of whatever meat I might be eating on 
those occassions that I eat meat at home. Point is... I don't think 
that diet( unless it's particularly horrible)  is going to make THE 
difference in a cats health and to not beat yourself up if you can't 
afford the BEST OF THE BEST... Most of the human population cannot 
afford to eat Doctor recommended diets unless they have fruit trees in 
their back yards and a year round vegetable garden... and if you also 
want to go organic...Hell...why not just buy a second house!!!
LAST on the listVets.   I really like the idea of posting the names 
and whereabouts of Vets that we are all pleased with but MUCH more 
interested in learning who the vets are that are willing to prescribe 
Winstrol...  I like my vet just fine but she's close minded about 
Winstrol and that concerns me no end...



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[Felvtalk] Food...

[Jennifer Olson]

I am curious too. I want to give Figaro all the nutritional support
possible for stable health. A few times a wk I'm giving a kitten vitamin
supplement. Am just starting to mix kitten kibble in his adult kibble.
Anxious to hear everything else suggested !   =~D
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Re: [Felvtalk] food

[dlgegg]

sTAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING WITH CORN, WHEAT, SOY.  Those ingredients had my guys 
vomiting all the time.  We are on Blue Buffalo.  You could try any food without 
the grains.

 "Armstrong-Brown wrote: 
> What is the best food I should be giving my FELV cat.  He won't eat soft 
> food, only dry.
> 
> 
> HOOT
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[Felvtalk] food

[Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium]

What is the best food I should be giving my FELV cat.  He won't eat soft food, 
only dry.


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[Felvtalk] Food and Nutrition for FELV

[Sherri Godschalk]

Good morning everyone. I have kind of a general question here for you all.
I am walking a tight rope here for my FELV + Bogey as far as to what to feed
her. She is hungry and is eating but now we are facing some rising liver
enzymes so I think I need to do more than just get her to eat .

She is not a big wet food eater. She will eat some each day, and normally
just Fancy Feast and just a bit of it. If her whole diet was that, she would
starve. I can get her to take a couple of tablespoons a day of Hills AD and
ID but I have to hand feed it. She likes kibble. Anymore I am not sure what
brand is a good nutritional cat food. I have learned that kibble is much
harder for their body to break down, thus stressing their liver but I have
got to keep her eating because of the liver and jaundice issues I am dealing
with. (she is dealing with)

So I am curious what you feed your cat and if you use any supplements. Also,
if a kibble is watered down and pureed, is it easier for them to digest? I
started adding Hills Sensitive Stomach Egg and Rice and she likes it and is
supposedly easier for them to digest. But is it a good food?

Thanks for your opinions.

Sherri


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[Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Pam Norman]

I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as 
supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


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[Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Pam Norman]

I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Ealeanor as well 
as supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Katy Doyle]

I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
(chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
 supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Natalie]

I assume that she is FeLV+?
I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are ecstatic
(so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape, especially
since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give all
FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
(chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
 supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Katy Doyle]

How do you feed the cats CoQ10 and how much?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I assume that she is FeLV+?
 I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
 ecstatic
 (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
 especially
 since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
 all
 FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
 Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

 I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
 (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
 wrote:

  I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
  supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Natalie]

I get the GNC 100 mg vegetarian formula because it's in powder
form/capsules.  Then I open it up and put 1/2 capsule for each cat into the
food; dosage for cats is between 35-50 mg. It doesn't taste of anything.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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How do you feed the cats CoQ10 and how much?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I assume that she is FeLV+?
 I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
 ecstatic
 (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
 especially
 since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
 all
 FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
 Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

 I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
 (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
 wrote:

  I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
  supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Pam Norman]

How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much 
apple cider vinegar in water?


On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

I assume that she is FeLV+?
I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are ecstatic
(so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape, especially
since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give all
FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
(chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net  wrote:


I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Natalie]

I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
for arthritis and so much more

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much 
apple cider vinegar in water?

On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
 I assume that she is FeLV+?
 I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
ecstatic
 (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
especially
 since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
all
 FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
 Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

 I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
 (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
wrote:

 I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
 supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Katy Doyle]

If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
keep mosquitos off of you!

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
 Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
 more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
 always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
 for arthritis and so much more

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

 How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
 apple cider vinegar in water?

 On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
  I assume that she is FeLV+?
  I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
 ecstatic
  (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
 especially
  since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
 all
  FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
  Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
  I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
  (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 wrote:
 
  I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
  supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Natalie]

Really?  I wish - I drink a lot more than that, and those buggers just love
me to death.  I will have to start taking more Vitamin B complex against
mosquitoes! They must love my blood!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
keep mosquitos off of you!

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
 Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
 more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
 always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
 for arthritis and so much more

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

 How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
 apple cider vinegar in water?

 On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
  I assume that she is FeLV+?
  I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
 ecstatic
  (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
 especially
  since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
 all
  FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
  Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
  I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
  (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 wrote:
 
  I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well
as
  supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Pam Norman]

Now THAT is worth trying!

On 6/8/2011 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
keep mosquitos off of you!

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalieat...@optonline.net  wrote:


I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
for arthritis and so much more

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
apple cider vinegar in water?

On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

I assume that she is FeLV+?
I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are

ecstatic

(so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,

especially

since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give

all

FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food   supplements for Miss Eleanor

I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
(chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net

wrote:

I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!


Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[dlgegg]

I'll go for that also!
 Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: 
 Now THAT is worth trying!
 
 On 6/8/2011 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:
  If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
  keep mosquitos off of you!
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalieat...@optonline.net  wrote:
 
  I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
  Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
  more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
  always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
  for arthritis and so much more
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
  How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
  apple cider vinegar in water?
 
  On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
  I assume that she is FeLV+?
  I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
  ecstatic
  (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
  especially
  since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
  all
  FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
  Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food   supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
  I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
  (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
  wrote:
  I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well as
  supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
  Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[dlgegg]

Also, try vanilla - 1 teaspoon to 1 quart water.  Has to be the real thing, not 
imitation.  Works on buffalo gnats
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Really?  I wish - I drink a lot more than that, and those buggers just love
 me to death.  I will have to start taking more Vitamin B complex against
 mosquitoes! They must love my blood!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:16 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
 If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
 keep mosquitos off of you!
 
 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
  Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up to
  more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
  always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and great
  for arthritis and so much more
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
  How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
  apple cider vinegar in water?
 
  On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
   I assume that she is FeLV+?
   I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
  ecstatic
   (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
  especially
   since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
  all
   FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
   Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
   Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
  
   I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
   (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.
  
   On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
  wrote:
  
   I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well
 as
   supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
  
  
   Pam
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Re: [Felvtalk] Food supplements for Miss Eleanor

[Natalie]

No, my blood pressure is very, very low - they just love the taste of my
blood - I have always been a mosquito magnet - aren't I lucky?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor

Natalie, do you take blood pressure medicine? Sometimes Mosquitos are more
attracted to people with high blood pressure...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Really?  I wish - I drink a lot more than that, and those buggers just
love
 me to death.  I will have to start taking more Vitamin B complex against
 mosquitoes! They must love my blood!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:16 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
 If you drink Apple Cider Vinegar (1 tsp in your water) every day it helps
 keep mosquitos off of you!
 
 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 I just wrote about CoQ10 dosage.
 Apple cider vinegar, start with a drop or two in water, slowly build up
to
 more over time. AC Vinegar is a miracle food!  I hate plain water, so I
 always put a dash of ACV into the bottle - great thirst quencher and
great
 for arthritis and so much more
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:48 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
 How much CoQ10  vitamin C  re the latter in what form?  And how much
 apple cider vinegar in water?
 
 On 6/8/2011 12:19 PM, Natalie wrote:
 I assume that she is FeLV+?
 I took my two FeLV+ boyz to the vet on Monday for IFA test - we are
 ecstatic
 (so was the vet)that their gums and teeth are in excellent shape,
 especially
 since they are FeLV+ and over 4 yrs old.  I believe it's because we give
 all
 FIV/FeLV cats in this household nothing but regular food, CoQ10, some
 Vitamin C, apple cider vinegar in water, and Nickers Biocoat!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Food  supplements for Miss Eleanor
 
 I supplement my cats' Blue Buffalo kibble with cooked pieces of meat
 (chicken/pork/beef/turkey). That's all I do for mine right now.
 
 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 wrote:
 
 I need suggestions as to the right/best food for Miss Eleanor as well
 as
 supplements.  We are going to be picking her up on Sunday!
 
 
 Pam
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