Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[Sandy]

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From: "ROBERT CHAPEL" <bcha...@optonline.net> 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mo 

I'm so sorry Sheri... Mo was certainly lucky to have such a fine home 
for his brief little life... You looked after him with love from the 
moment he came home with you until it was time to leave.. We can't give 
too much more than that.. 

Bob 




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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

I'm so sorry Sheri... Mo was certainly lucky to have such a fine home 
for his brief little life...  You looked after him with love from the 
moment he came home with you until it was time to leave..  We can't give 
too much more than that..


Bob




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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Bob,
So very sorry for what you and little Jelly are going through at this point. 
Always know that you were Jelly's family and you did the best for your little 
one. I really do believe that they know and appreciate what is being done for 
them. I also believe we will have our little furbabies in heaven. Of course 
that will mean that I will have finally achieved "crazy cat lady" status 
because over my lifetime, I have had lots of them.

Ardy

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Sheri..
I don't think I need to tell you that I REALLY feel for your struggle  I 
love that you have made a little place for mo where he can look out onto the 
outside world , feel the sun and look at the other little creatures ( that he 
would likely kill and eat if he had the chancelets be real : )   
but  I still LOVE to see them show interest in the world around them... it 
helps us to "stay the course".   I have NO idea if our little charges have 
any appreciation of what we do for them or even if it makes a difference that 
make a comfortable safe sunny area for them at our homes...  I need to do it 
for ME...  I can't stand the idea of any creature dying unloved and unattended 
even IF they themselves don't even know it TO be so... 
Right this minute I have Jelly on two syringes of Buphenorphine and am hoping 
that he dies at home so that I don't have to take him someplace unfamiliar in 
order to save him from further discomfort  Tonight he began mouth breathing 
and meowing pathetically after I moved him and it is clear that he is very 
uncomfortable...  He's unstable on his feet...eating and drinking and using the 
litter box not at all and unless he perks up substantially I'm going to  try to 
help him out of this world tomorrow.. I HATE having to make this decision 
but... for these last 12 hours he has been a cat without ANY quality of life 
and the show of discomfort just makes it impossible for me to overlook it and 
hope for the best any longer..  Hoping for a miracle in the later morning...
Keep at it with little mo  perhaps you will have better fortune

Bob

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[dlgegg]

You are so right.  I have been with all my babies at the end and I know it made 
me feel much better knowing that if they needed me, I was there.  And yes, they 
do know you are there and love them.  Usually they take hold of me with their 
paws and hold on.  I think it makes them feel more secure in those last moments.

 ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: 
> I hope little Mo passes soon.Not that I want Mo to be gone but I 
want you to be able to actually grieve his loss rather than be subjected 
to the pain of wondering each day if THIS is the day and worrying if he 
is going to die while you are away from him. I don't know that they 
sense our presence when they are this ill and close to the end of their 
lives but I know it made ME feel better to be with my guys holding them 
for as many hours as I could while they were near the end.  I hope 
you , too, are able to be physically connected to your little Mo when he 
leaves his little body..   I am comforted for Mo that he has you 
caring this much that his last moments have a much quality as you can 
provide
Bob

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> Thank you all for your kind words and support. It means so much to me
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>> I am so sorry Sheri. You did everything possible. And you?re right. 
>> It is
>> beyond unfair that these innocent beings should suffer and die like 
>> this.
>>
>>
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>> Amani
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>>
>>
>> Mo's appetite hasn't improved and this morning I found him in my
>> daughter's room laying in a puddle of his own urine. I gave him his
>> buprenorphine but I am done forcing meds on this angel beyond comfort 
>> care.
>>
>>
>>
>> We were going to see the vet today for bloodwork, but I don't really 
>> see
>> the point now. Perhaps if we had tried these meds when he first 
>> started
>> slipping it would have helped him. At least I am armed with this 
>> knowledge
>> for Violet.
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>>
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>> My heart is breaking. This is all so unfair.
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> Thank you Jen, I need all the strength I can get!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

I hope little Mo passes soon.Not that I want Mo to be gone but I 
want you to be able to actually grieve his loss rather than be subjected 
to the pain of wondering each day if THIS is the day and worrying if he 
is going to die while you are away from him. I don't know that they 
sense our presence when they are this ill and close to the end of their 
lives but I know it made ME feel better to be with my guys holding them 
for as many hours as I could while they were near the end.  I hope 
you , too, are able to be physically connected to your little Mo when he 
leaves his little body..   I am comforted for Mo that he has you 
caring this much that his last moments have a much quality as you can 
provide

Bob

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Thank you all for your kind words and support. It means so much to me
during this painful time.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017, 12:54 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

I am so sorry Sheri. You did everything possible. And you?re right. 
It is
beyond unfair that these innocent beings should suffer and die like 
this.




Amani



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*Subject:* [Felvtalk] Letting go of Mo



Mo's appetite hasn't improved and this morning I found him in my
daughter's room laying in a puddle of his own urine. I gave him his
buprenorphine but I am done forcing meds on this angel beyond comfort 
care.




We were going to see the vet today for bloodwork, but I don't really 
see
the point now. Perhaps if we had tried these meds when he first 
started
slipping it would have helped him. At least I am armed with this 
knowledge

for Violet.



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Thank you Jen, I need all the strength I can get!

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Thoughts & prayers for your strength. Mo will be completely healthy 
soon-

just missing you til you are reunited once more.
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Sheri
There is no better ending for our little friends than to die in the 
arms of those who loved them... and no better ending for us as 
well.
Mo deserves to not have his end be a repetition of his beginnings...I 
realize that I am not the most objective fellow in the world at the 
moment but ,having had my little yogi die with me holding him ... 
passing quietly and peacefully was a comfort for me. No quess 
workhether it was the right time. No yanking him from his home, to be 
put in a carrier and exposed to a stressful car ride.. placed on a 
metal table to meet his end in a strange place. Whenever possible this 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[bchapel]

Sheri
There is no better ending for our little friends than to die in the arms of 
those who loved them... and no better ending for us as well.
Mo deserves to not have his end be a repetition of his beginnings...I realize 
that I am not the most objective fellow in the world at the moment but ,having 
had my little yogi die with me holding him ... passing quietly and peacefully 
was a comfort for me. No quess workhether it was the right time. No yanking him 
from his home, to be put in a carrier and exposed to a stressful car ride.. 
placed on a metal table to meet his end in a strange place. Whenever possible 
this IS the way to go
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[Sheri Burbridge]

Thank you Jen, I need all the strength I can get!

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017, 12:36 PM Jennifer Olson  wrote:

Thoughts & prayers for your strength. Mo will be completely healthy soon-
just missing you til you are reunited once more.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[dlgegg]

I believe that our little ones do know we love and care for them.  Just because 
they cannot say so in words, they let us know by actions.  When Annie's eyes 
get a bit gunky, she comes to me, meows and waits patiently for me to clean 
them.  


 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 

Sheri..
I don't think I need to tell you that I REALLY feel for your 
struggle  I love that you have made a little place for mo where he 
can look out onto the outside world , feel the sun and look at the other 
little creatures ( that he would likely kill and eat if he had the 
chancelets be real : )   but  I still LOVE to see them show 
interest in the world around them... it helps us to "stay the 
course".   I have NO idea if our little charges have any 
appreciation of what we do for them or even if it makes a difference 
that make a comfortable safe sunny area for them at our homes...  I need 
to do it for ME...  I can't stand the idea of any creature dying unloved 
and unattended even IF they themselves don't even know it TO be so... 
Right this minute I have Jelly on two syringes of Buphenorphine and am 
hoping that he dies at home so that I don't have to take him someplace 
unfamiliar in order to save him from further discomfort  Tonight he 
began mouth breathing and meowing pathetically after I moved him and it 
is clear that he is very uncomfortable...  He's unstable on his 
feet...eating and drinking and using the litter box not at all and 
unless he perks up substantially I'm going to  try to help him out of 
this world tomorrow.. I HATE having to make this decision but... for 
these last 12 hours he has been a cat without ANY quality of life and 
the show of discomfort just makes it impossible for me to overlook it 
and hope for the best any longer..  Hoping for a miracle in the 
later morning...
Keep at it with little mo  perhaps you will have better fortune

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo update

[Sheri Burbridge]

The Vet wants to run the bloodwork tomorrow and see where we are with the
anemia. I'd have liked to have given it more time but I'm also anxious to
know if the meds are working. I guess I'll have some answers on Wednesday.

I think I saw on here somewhere that you can buy Doxy at pet stores? Has
anyone done this and put it in the baby food or some type of liquid? It
cost me $40 for a 10 day supply from the pharmacy, that plus $50 for a 20
day course of Winstrol and $32 for a 5 day supply of Buprenorphine and $100
every time we run his labs is really adding up!

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 6:52 PM Sheri Burbridge  wrote:

> Thank you for the encouragement! I was really dreading the syringe feeding
> but it went better than I thought. I was able to get 3- 3cc syringes in him
> and although he hated being restrained and wasn't lapping it on his own, he
> didn't seem to hate the taste and dutifully swallowed each bit until the
> end of syringe 3 where he let it come back out.
>
> I put him back on his sunny spot and he immediately went to sleep. I have
> to assume a full belly was a relief.
>
> I'm going to bring home some more 10cc syringes tomorrow, I think it will
> be easier to refill less often during the feeding.
>
> I've decided the little area we have set up is Mo's spot and I feel good
> about him spending his time there and watching the birds and squirrels
> outside. If this all fails, I at least know that's a happy place for him. I
> won't give him meds or food there,  it's his safe spot from all this
> madness.
>
> I could swear his gums are pinking up but I may just really want to
> believe that right now. I'm holding out for bloodwork at 30 days so time
> will be the tell.
>
> Sheri
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 4:15 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:
>
> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> It is extremely difficult to go through what you and Mo are going through,
> and all of us have been there. I too have known the frustration and guilt
> of constantly harassing one of the babies in my charge with food. However,
> I have very often seen them come through the other end, and so, while
> things look bleak right now, if they are able to get enough to eat and if
> the meds end up helping, all is forgiven and forgotten. There is no
> question it is absolutely gut-wrenching to have to decide if you are
> helping or hurting at this time, and only you can know the right answer.
> All of us would  do different things, and every situation is unique, so
> there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Make the decision out of love and
> no matter what the outcome, remember that it was out of love that you did
> it.
>
>
>
> As I mentioned in my earlier post, I find baby food very helpful in these
> circumstances and I will squirt the food via syringe, into their mouths
> because they need more than they will take on their own right now and
> squirting it in their mouths actually means I harass them for LESS time.
> After the worst of the crisis passes, they usually will begin to show
> interest in the food without the need for the syringing, but even then, if
> they aren’t getting enough intake, I will keep syringing to ensure they are
> getting enough, until they get to the point that they are licking up enough
> on their own. It is a vicious circle of course, because not getting enough
> to eat makes them feel horrible and week, and worsens their appetite even
> more, etc. Thus, I try to break that cycle by ensuring they are getting
> enough intake, to allow the meds time to kick in.
>
>
>
> When I started in “rescuing” of strays, I was told by the animal welfare
> group with which I was volunteering, that you cannot get a cat to eat, who
> doesn’t want to eat. I have not found that to be the case, but I think that
> my success has been due to keeping the feeding time short and effective,
> and thus, I keep the skirmishing short. I can get 1 3-cc syringe of pureed
> baby food into most cats in just a few minutes, and even 10 syringes will
> take 15-20 minutes (because if I go that far, my baby is clearly open to
> getting more food). Keeping the time short and effective will minimize the
> fighting and unpleasantness for both of you, so if I can only get 1 syringe
> in before my baby gets terribly unhappy, then I will stop. But my minimum
> is 1 syringe at a feeding, and I set goals to increase that as I am able.
>
>
>
> Sadly, of course, we all know that the meds may not work, and so the food
> intake ends up being for naught (along with the regretful harassment). For
> me and Zander, that is one of the ways that the weekly bloodwork I was
> having done, was helpful. I was able to see improvement in the bloodwork,
> so it lessened the uncertainty regarding whether I was going down the right
> road. However, even bloodwork results are not always definitive because you
> can see an improvement in the numbers but it is not enough to end up
> helping. For that reason, doctors are taught to “treat the person, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[Sheri Burbridge]

Oh Bob, my heart just hurts for you today. Poor Jelly, it is so hard to
watch them struggle. You are both in my thoughts constantly today, I can
only hope that the buprenorphine is easing his pain somewhat. I completely
understand that you'd rather have him pass at home. These poor animals have
spent so much time in clinics that it seems cruel that they would have to
end their lives there as well.

I wish there were words that could help at this point. Just know that you
are not alone in this and you have given Jelly a beautiful life. Sending
hugs from Ohio, I'm so very sorry this is happening.

Sheri

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 2:52 AM ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:

>
>
> Sheri..
> I don't think I need to tell you that I REALLY feel for your
> struggle  I love that you have made a little place for mo where he
> can look out onto the outside world , feel the sun and look at the other
> little creatures ( that he would likely kill and eat if he had the
> chancelets be real : )   but  I still LOVE to see them show
> interest in the world around them... it helps us to "stay the
> course".   I have NO idea if our little charges have any
> appreciation of what we do for them or even if it makes a difference
> that make a comfortable safe sunny area for them at our homes...  I need
> to do it for ME...  I can't stand the idea of any creature dying unloved
> and unattended even IF they themselves don't even know it TO be so...
> Right this minute I have Jelly on two syringes of Buphenorphine and am
> hoping that he dies at home so that I don't have to take him someplace
> unfamiliar in order to save him from further discomfort  Tonight he
> began mouth breathing and meowing pathetically after I moved him and it
> is clear that he is very uncomfortable...  He's unstable on his
> feet...eating and drinking and using the litter box not at all and
> unless he perks up substantially I'm going to  try to help him out of
> this world tomorrow.. I HATE having to make this decision but... for
> these last 12 hours he has been a cat without ANY quality of life and
> the show of discomfort just makes it impossible for me to overlook it
> and hope for the best any longer..  Hoping for a miracle in the
> later morning...
> Keep at it with little mo  perhaps you will have better fortune
>
> Bob
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Sheri..
I don't think I need to tell you that I REALLY feel for your 
struggle  I love that you have made a little place for mo where he 
can look out onto the outside world , feel the sun and look at the other 
little creatures ( that he would likely kill and eat if he had the 
chancelets be real : )   but  I still LOVE to see them show 
interest in the world around them... it helps us to "stay the 
course".   I have NO idea if our little charges have any 
appreciation of what we do for them or even if it makes a difference 
that make a comfortable safe sunny area for them at our homes...  I need 
to do it for ME...  I can't stand the idea of any creature dying unloved 
and unattended even IF they themselves don't even know it TO be so... 
Right this minute I have Jelly on two syringes of Buphenorphine and am 
hoping that he dies at home so that I don't have to take him someplace 
unfamiliar in order to save him from further discomfort  Tonight he 
began mouth breathing and meowing pathetically after I moved him and it 
is clear that he is very uncomfortable...  He's unstable on his 
feet...eating and drinking and using the litter box not at all and 
unless he perks up substantially I'm going to  try to help him out of 
this world tomorrow.. I HATE having to make this decision but... for 
these last 12 hours he has been a cat without ANY quality of life and 
the show of discomfort just makes it impossible for me to overlook it 
and hope for the best any longer..  Hoping for a miracle in the 
later morning...

Keep at it with little mo  perhaps you will have better fortune

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo update

[Sheri Burbridge]

Thank you for the encouragement! I was really dreading the syringe feeding
but it went better than I thought. I was able to get 3- 3cc syringes in him
and although he hated being restrained and wasn't lapping it on his own, he
didn't seem to hate the taste and dutifully swallowed each bit until the
end of syringe 3 where he let it come back out.

I put him back on his sunny spot and he immediately went to sleep. I have
to assume a full belly was a relief.

I'm going to bring home some more 10cc syringes tomorrow, I think it will
be easier to refill less often during the feeding.

I've decided the little area we have set up is Mo's spot and I feel good
about him spending his time there and watching the birds and squirrels
outside. If this all fails, I at least know that's a happy place for him. I
won't give him meds or food there,  it's his safe spot from all this
madness.

I could swear his gums are pinking up but I may just really want to believe
that right now. I'm holding out for bloodwork at 30 days so time will be
the tell.

Sheri

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 4:15 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> It is extremely difficult to go through what you and Mo are going through,
> and all of us have been there. I too have known the frustration and guilt
> of constantly harassing one of the babies in my charge with food. However,
> I have very often seen them come through the other end, and so, while
> things look bleak right now, if they are able to get enough to eat and if
> the meds end up helping, all is forgiven and forgotten. There is no
> question it is absolutely gut-wrenching to have to decide if you are
> helping or hurting at this time, and only you can know the right answer.
> All of us would  do different things, and every situation is unique, so
> there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Make the decision out of love and
> no matter what the outcome, remember that it was out of love that you did
> it.
>
>
>
> As I mentioned in my earlier post, I find baby food very helpful in these
> circumstances and I will squirt the food via syringe, into their mouths
> because they need more than they will take on their own right now and
> squirting it in their mouths actually means I harass them for LESS time.
> After the worst of the crisis passes, they usually will begin to show
> interest in the food without the need for the syringing, but even then, if
> they aren’t getting enough intake, I will keep syringing to ensure they are
> getting enough, until they get to the point that they are licking up enough
> on their own. It is a vicious circle of course, because not getting enough
> to eat makes them feel horrible and week, and worsens their appetite even
> more, etc. Thus, I try to break that cycle by ensuring they are getting
> enough intake, to allow the meds time to kick in.
>
>
>
> When I started in “rescuing” of strays, I was told by the animal welfare
> group with which I was volunteering, that you cannot get a cat to eat, who
> doesn’t want to eat. I have not found that to be the case, but I think that
> my success has been due to keeping the feeding time short and effective,
> and thus, I keep the skirmishing short. I can get 1 3-cc syringe of pureed
> baby food into most cats in just a few minutes, and even 10 syringes will
> take 15-20 minutes (because if I go that far, my baby is clearly open to
> getting more food). Keeping the time short and effective will minimize the
> fighting and unpleasantness for both of you, so if I can only get 1 syringe
> in before my baby gets terribly unhappy, then I will stop. But my minimum
> is 1 syringe at a feeding, and I set goals to increase that as I am able.
>
>
>
> Sadly, of course, we all know that the meds may not work, and so the food
> intake ends up being for naught (along with the regretful harassment). For
> me and Zander, that is one of the ways that the weekly bloodwork I was
> having done, was helpful. I was able to see improvement in the bloodwork,
> so it lessened the uncertainty regarding whether I was going down the right
> road. However, even bloodwork results are not always definitive because you
> can see an improvement in the numbers but it is not enough to end up
> helping. For that reason, doctors are taught to “treat the person, not the
> numbers”. Nonetheless, as long as you are seeing a few good moments and
> glimmers of improvement, there is hope and we are with you and Mo.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-09-17 1:20 PM
> *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Mo update
>
>
>
> I feel a lot like Bob right now, it's hard to tell if we are making
> progress. I'm trying very hard to be patient but time is not on our side
> and it's difficult.
>
>
>
> Mo has been eating less and less every day and won't really lick the gel
> off anymore so I'm going to try the baby food today. With how 

Re: [Felvtalk] Mo update

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Sheri

It is extremely difficult to go through what you and Mo are going through, and 
all of us have been there. I too have known the frustration and guilt of 
constantly harassing one of the babies in my charge with food. However, I have 
very often seen them come through the other end, and so, while things look 
bleak right now, if they are able to get enough to eat and if the meds end up 
helping, all is forgiven and forgotten. There is no question it is absolutely 
gut-wrenching to have to decide if you are helping or hurting at this time, and 
only you can know the right answer. All of us would  do different things, and 
every situation is unique, so there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Make the 
decision out of love and no matter what the outcome, remember that it was out 
of love that you did it.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I find baby food very helpful in these 
circumstances and I will squirt the food via syringe, into their mouths because 
they need more than they will take on their own right now and squirting it in 
their mouths actually means I harass them for LESS time. After the worst of the 
crisis passes, they usually will begin to show interest in the food without the 
need for the syringing, but even then, if they aren’t getting enough intake, I 
will keep syringing to ensure they are getting enough, until they get to the 
point that they are licking up enough on their own. It is a vicious circle of 
course, because not getting enough to eat makes them feel horrible and week, 
and worsens their appetite even more, etc. Thus, I try to break that cycle by 
ensuring they are getting enough intake, to allow the meds time to kick in.

When I started in “rescuing” of strays, I was told by the animal welfare group 
with which I was volunteering, that you cannot get a cat to eat, who doesn’t 
want to eat. I have not found that to be the case, but I think that my success 
has been due to keeping the feeding time short and effective, and thus, I keep 
the skirmishing short. I can get 1 3-cc syringe of pureed baby food into most 
cats in just a few minutes, and even 10 syringes will take 15-20 minutes 
(because if I go that far, my baby is clearly open to getting more food). 
Keeping the time short and effective will minimize the fighting and 
unpleasantness for both of you, so if I can only get 1 syringe in before my 
baby gets terribly unhappy, then I will stop. But my minimum is 1 syringe at a 
feeding, and I set goals to increase that as I am able.

Sadly, of course, we all know that the meds may not work, and so the food 
intake ends up being for naught (along with the regretful harassment). For me 
and Zander, that is one of the ways that the weekly bloodwork I was having 
done, was helpful. I was able to see improvement in the bloodwork, so it 
lessened the uncertainty regarding whether I was going down the right road. 
However, even bloodwork results are not always definitive because you can see 
an improvement in the numbers but it is not enough to end up helping. For that 
reason, doctors are taught to “treat the person, not the numbers”. Nonetheless, 
as long as you are seeing a few good moments and glimmers of improvement, there 
is hope and we are with you and Mo.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-09-17 1:20 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo update

I feel a lot like Bob right now, it's hard to tell if we are making progress. 
I'm trying very hard to be patient but time is not on our side and it's 
difficult.

Mo has been eating less and less every day and won't really lick the gel off 
anymore so I'm going to try the baby food today. With how picky he is I don't 
have much hope of him liking it. I feel like a bully constantly restraining him 
and shoving things in his mouth. I know it's the only hope he has but it's 
still hard.

Yesterday I set up a little area for him on a nightstand by the window. There 
is a pad for him to lay on, his own water bowl, and he can look out on the back 
yard while the afternoon sun shines on him. It makes me feel better that this 
is where he's spending his time and not in a dark room somewhere. He seems so 
relaxed and happy there.

This is all so mentally and emotionally draining. I am so grateful for you all 
that understand this struggle and don't think I'm crazy for putting so much 
effort into this.

I'm going to try the baby food a bit later and also see if he will try some 
chicken. I cook for my dogs and have a batch going today so I might as well 
give it a go!

Enjoy the rest of the weekend, thanks for listening.

Sheri
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[catatonya]

I'm so sorry, Sherry.
tonya

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:53 PM


We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a 
character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids with 
his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit them.He 
also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would put his paw 
up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted to 
be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he 
purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand..We will miss 
you our beautiful black tripod boy. :(
Sherry
 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo, Please add to the CLS

[Lorrie]

I'm so sorry you lost your sweet Mo.  He sounds like he was a 
very special cat full of love and personality plus. 

Lorrie


On 08-15, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

 We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite
 a character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other
 Sids kids with his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he
 was going to hit them.He also would scratch at your foot to get
 your attention.He also would put his paw up on your back while you
 sat on the floor. He sure made it clear he wanted to be loved. :)
 Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he
 purred like a motor boat. He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand.We
 will miss you our beautiful black tripod boy. :( Sherry ?
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[Kerry MacKenzie]

I'm sorry, Sherry. What an amazing little soul Mo sounds---your description of 
his antics is a vivid one. He will surely be sorely missed.
hugs, Kerry





From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:53:43 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS  :(

We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a 
character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids with 
his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit them.He 
also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would put his paw 
up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted to 
be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he 
purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand.We will miss 
you our beautiful black tripod boy. :(
Sherry
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[MaryChristine]

oh, what a treasure he was! thank you for sharing some of him with us. GLOW
to you and doc jen and all the others who keep on doing this hard work.

MC


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a
 character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids
 with his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit
 them.He also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would
 put his paw up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear
 he wanted to be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes
 today and he purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my
 hand.We will miss you our beautiful black tripod boy. :(
 Sherry




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 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Sherry, I'm so sorry you lost Mo. He sounds like a real little personality
kid. Gentle Bridge vibes to him and hugs to you all.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:54 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a
character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids
with his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit
them.He also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would
put his paw up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear
he wanted to be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes
today and he purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my
hand.We will miss you our beautiful black tripod boy. :( Sherry
 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[Sharyl]

Sherry, Mo sounds like a wonderful guy.  He will be welcomed at the Rainbow 
Bridge by all our Angels.  
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS  :(
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:53 PM
 We lost our sweet three legged
 Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a character.I used to
 get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids with
 his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was
 going to hit them.He also would scratch at your foot to get
 your attention.He also would put his paw up on your back
 while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted
 to be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good
 byes today and he purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a
 quick kiss on my hand.We will miss you our beautiful black
 tripod boy. :(
 Sherry
  
 
 
  
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 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

[Gloria B. Lane]

I'm so sorry, Sherry - what a wonderful boy -

Gloria



On Aug 15, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite  
a character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other  
Sids kids with his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he  
was going to hit them.He also would scratch at your foot to get your  
attention.He also would put his paw up on your back while you sat on  
the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted to be loved. :) Dr. Jen  
gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he purred like a  
motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand.We will miss you  
our beautiful black tripod boy. :(

Sherry




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Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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