Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-30 Thread Ardy Robertson 
Good idea!!

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Ardy

When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap by
explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing animals. If
you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, they sure perk up
when they realize that after practicing on animals, these killers move on to
children and other people.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of
them started being cruel to animals as young children.

It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats -
people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I
personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either
let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but
preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They
didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow
their kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal
life.

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...


I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how
someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for
profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit
beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal
trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an
animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I
had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was simply "made"
that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can
remember  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog
fighting ring..Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require
people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for
animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the
miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask that they _
feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con
 tribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the sand and
I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so People never
cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their
utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the
same  ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.   It does my
heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life
better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own
lot... your kindness humbles me

>

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-29 Thread dlgegg 
Not only care for pets, but their fellow humans.  

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of 
> them started being cruel to animals as young children.
> 
> It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - 
> people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I 
> personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either 
> let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but 
> preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They 
> didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow their 
> kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal life.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...
> 
> 
> I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how 
> someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for 
> profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit 
> beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal 
> trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an 
> animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I 
> had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was simply "made" 
> that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember 
>  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..
> Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT 
> decently even if their heart does not melt for animals   Ok... so maybe 
> they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and 
> people) have  I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect 
> that they will not c
 on
>  tribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the sand and I 
> have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so People never cease 
> to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter 
> lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same  
> ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.   It does my heart a 
> world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for 
> the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your 
> kindness humbles me
> 
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-29 Thread dlgegg 
Sadly, this will not stop them.  When I reported someone for animal abuse, the 
investigator said most likely when he makes his report, he includes child, 
elder or spouse abuse also.  These people are ill, enjoy hurting someone who 
cannot defend themselves.

 Lorrie  wrote: 
>  
> > When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap
> > by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing
> > animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals,
> > they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on
> > animals, these killers move on to children and other people.
> > 
> > Amani
> 
> Excellent idea and one I will remember and use.
> 
> Lorrie
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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-29 Thread Lorrie 
 
> When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap
> by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing
> animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals,
> they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on
> animals, these killers move on to children and other people.
> 
> Amani

Excellent idea and one I will remember and use.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-28 Thread Amani Oakley 
Ardy

When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap by 
explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing animals. If you 
can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, they sure perk up when they 
realize that after practicing on animals, these killers move on to children and 
other people.

Amani

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Robertson
Sent: May-29-17 12:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them 
started being cruel to animals as young children.

It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - 
people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally 
brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep 
them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up 
my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I 
think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for 
them, to cultivate a caring for animal life.

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...


I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how 
someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. 
  In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the 
pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I 
encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal...   I try to 
remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the 
caring I have for animals I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me 
from the earliest years that I can remember  Had my genes been 
different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..Beyond this, though, 
I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their 
heart does not melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly 
care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con
 tribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the sand and I 
have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so People never cease to 
amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack 
of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same  ( 
purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.   It does my heart a world 
of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little 
creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness 
humbles me

>

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-28 Thread Ardy Robertson 
I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them 
started being cruel to animals as young children.

It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - 
people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally 
brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep 
them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up 
my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I 
think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for 
them, to cultivate a caring for animal life.

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...


I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how 
someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. 
  In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the 
pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I 
encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal...   I try to 
remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the 
caring I have for animals I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me 
from the earliest years that I can remember  Had my genes been 
different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..Beyond this, though, 
I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their 
heart does not melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly 
care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con
 tribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the sand and I 
have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so People never cease to 
amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack 
of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same  ( 
purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.   It does my heart a world 
of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little 
creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness 
humbles me

>

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-28 Thread dlgegg 
I have to get one of those plaques, really do need one or maybe more to put in 
each room

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-27 Thread kat 

Bob,

 

I agree with you - I have no tolerance for anyone that abuses anyone or animal smaller & weaker than themselves.  Even when some people have a warped sense of humor.  One of my (former) co-workers had shown me a cartoon book titled "101 uses for a dead cat" - it was dumb, sophmoric 'humor'.  I asked him if it would be just as 'funny' if it were "101 uses for a dead baby".  He looked slightly horrified & said "NO", and I pointed out that it is Not really Funny, is it...  Some people don't think.

 

I saw a cute plaque a while ago that said -

"Lord, Give me Patience... Because if You give me Strength, I'm gonna need Bail Money to go with it!!"
That about sums it up.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 3:44 AM
From: "ROBERT CHAPEL" <bcha...@optonline.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming
an animal... 

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-27 Thread dlgegg 
I agree completely.  I think that these people who do this also do so unto 
their fellow humans.  One thing they lack is the love of God.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 
I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling 
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them 
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a 
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real 
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming 
an animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous 
since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was 
simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that 
I can remember  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running 
a dog fighting ring..    Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to 
require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not 
melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about 
the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not 
contribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the 
sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so  
People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and 
caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar 
opposites can exist in the same  ( purportedly sentient) species boggles 
my mind.   It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you 
are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so 
little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me

>

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Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals...

2017-05-27 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL 


I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling 
how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them 
for profit.   In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a 
bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real 
legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming 
an animal...   I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous 
since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals I was 
simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that 
I can remember  Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running 
a dog fighting ring..    Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to 
require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not 
melt for animals   Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about 
the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have  I don't ask 
that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not 
contribute to or exacerbate that misery   This is MY line in the 
sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so  
People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and 
caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar 
opposites can exist in the same  ( purportedly sentient) species boggles 
my mind.   It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you 
are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so 
little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me






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