Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-12-31 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Monday, Nov 27th 2006 at 10:20 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:

=>On Saturday, Nov 25th 2006 at 10:29 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:
=>
=>=>On Friday, Nov 24th 2006 at 22:33 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:
=>=>
=>=>=>
=>=>=>Ok. I got a new one today and I'm leaving it around so we can figure this 
=>=>=>thing out.
=>=>=>
=>=>=>Here's the cron tree:
=>=>=>
=>=>=> 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
=>=>=>16571 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>=>=>16572 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup 
-set backup -incremental
=>=>=>16846 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [sh] 
=>=>=>16573 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i 
-odi -oem -oi -t
=>=>=>
=>=>=>And here's the gzip:
=>=>=>
=>=>=>16860 ?S  0:01 gzip -9
=>=>=>
=>=>=>and ps -ef shows
=>=>=>
=>=>=>root 16860 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>=>=>root 16571  3480  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 crond
=>=>=>root 16572 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w 
/usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
=>=>=>smmsp16573 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail 
-FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>=>=>root 16846 16572  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 [sh] 
=>=>=>
=>=>=>which shows that gzip is now the child of init which means that his 
parent 
=>=>=>exited and orphaned him. And 16846 seems to not be getting cleanup up by 
=>=>=>flexbackup.
=>=>=>
=>=>=>Anyone have an idea of what this all means?
=>=>
=>=>Next day and we got lucky. It happened again
=>=>
=>=>
=>=>root  3480  0.0  0.0   2668   468 ?Ss   Aug27   0:01 crond
=>=>root 16571  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?SNov24   0:00  \_ crond
=>=>root 16572  0.0  0.5   8320  5960 ?Ss   Nov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
=>=>root 16846  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?ZNov24   0:00  |   |  \_ 
[sh] 
=>=>smmsp16573  0.0  0.2   7344  2744 ?SNov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>=>root 21193  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ crond
=>=>root 21194  0.0  0.5   8320  5952 ?Ss   03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -differential
=>=>root 21377  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?Z03:31   0:00  |  \_ 
[sh] 
=>=>smmsp21195  0.0  0.2   7344  2728 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>=>
=>=>and we now have two gzips owned by init.
=>=>
=>=>526 > ps -ef | grep gzip
=>=>root 16860 1  0 Nov24 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>=>root 21419 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:03 gzip -9
=>=>steveo5813  9890  0 10:28 pts/300:00:00 grep gzip
=>=>527 > 
=>
=>
=>Ok. I promise I won't post any more examples. I just had one more from 
=>last night.
=>
=> 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
=>16571 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>16572 ?Ss 0:00  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set 
backup -incremental
=>16846 ?Z  0:00  |   |   \_ [sh] 
=>16573 ?S  0:00  |   \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi 
-oem -oi -t
=>21193 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>21194 ?Ss 0:00  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set 
backup -differential
=>21377 ?Z  0:00  |   |   \_ [sh] 
=>21195 ?S  0:00  |   \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi 
-oem -oi -t
=>17332 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>17333 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set 
backup -incremental
=>17705 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [sh] 
=>17334 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi 
-oem -oi -t
=>
=>524 >  ps -ef | grep gzip
=>root 16860 1  0 Nov24 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>root 21419 1  0 Nov25 ?00:00:03 gzip -9
=>root 17719 1  0 03:32 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>steveo   12378  3292  0 10:17 pts/500:00:00 grep gzip
=>525 >
=>
=>Also, I included my flexbackup.conf, if that helps. Thanks.
=>
=>$type = 'afio';
=>$set{'backup'} = "/e/web /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp /usr/local /etc /boot 
=>/root /var/spool/mail /var/log";
=>$prune{'/e/web'} = "steveo/mpg";
=>$compress = 'gzip'; # one of false/gzip/bzip2/lzop/zip/compress/hardware
=>$compr_level = '9'; # compression level (1-9) (for gzip/bzip2/lzop/zip)
=>$buffer = 'buffer'; # one of false/buffer/mbuffer
=>$buffer_megs = '10';# buffer memory size (in megabytes)
=>$buffer_fill_pct = '75';# start writing when buffer this percent full
=>$buffer_pause_usec = '100'; # pause after write (tape devices only)
=>$device = '/d2/backup';
=>$blksize = '10';
=>$mt_blksize = "0";
=>$pad_blocks = 'true';
=>$remoteshell = 'ssh'; # command for remote shell (rsh/ssh/ssh2)
=>$remoteuser = ''; # if non-null, secondary username for remote shells
=>$label = 'true';  # somehow store identifying label in archive?
=>$verbose = 'true';# echo each file?
=>$sparse = 'true'; # h

Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-27 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, Nov 25th 2006 at 10:29 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:

=>On Friday, Nov 24th 2006 at 22:33 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:
=>
=>=>On Wednesday, Nov 22nd 2006 at 10:51 -0500, quoth Charlie Brady:
=>=>
=>=>=>
=>=>=>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>=>=>
=>=>=>> =>Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not 
terminated. 
=>=>=>> =>What does "ps fax" tell you?
=>=>=>> =>
=>=>=>> =>> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?
=>=>=>> =>
=>=>=>> =>I don't know why you are suggesting that.
=>=>=>> 
=>=>=>> Right. It's not a zombie like I said above, but since it's not, you're 
=>=>=>> correct that the issue of SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD would be a red herring. 
From 
=>=>=>> the ps output above, it's in a sleep state. Your question about who the 
=>=>=>> parent is is good. I don't remember because I just killed the process 
=>=>=>> after I sent this message but I believe (from previous incidents) it is 
=>=>=>> the child of flexbackup. So the tree should be
=>=>=>> 
=>=>=>> cron
=>=>=>> \_bash
=>=>=>>  \_flexbackup
=>=>=>>   \_gzip
=>=>=>
=>=>=>No, the tree should never be just that. Something should be feeding gzip, 
=>=>=>and gzip should be feeding something. Both "somethings" should be 
children 
=>=>=>of flexbackup. The exact identity of the "somethings" will depend on your 
=>=>=>configuration.
=>=>=> 
=>=>=>> What I think is happening is that flexbackup is waiting for gzip to 
=>=>=>> complete before it exits. But gzip doesn't exit because it's waiting 
for 
=>=>=>> more input, not knowing that more isn't coming. 
=>=>=>
=>=>=>Yes, and you need to determine why no more input is coming, and yet the 
=>=>=>program providing such input to gzip has not exited.
=>=>=>
=>=>=>> Sometimes I can go a month without a hangup, and sometimes it hangs 
=>=>=>> multiple times per week. Do we need to wait for a reoccurance or is 
this 
=>=>=>> enough to be able to work with?
=>=>=>
=>=>=>It's not enough because you haven't given us the full information. Since 
=>=>=>you've killed the gzip process, we can't determine what was feeding it 
=>=>=>input and why it was blocked. If you can show the actual process tree 
=>=>=>rather than what you think "should" be there, then we can provide more 
=>=>=>debugging instructions.
=>=>=>
=>=>=>Perhaps if you describe your configuration someone can speculate about 
=>=>=>what process was blocked and why.
=>=>
=>=>Ok. I got a new one today and I'm leaving it around so we can figure this 
=>=>thing out.
=>=>
=>=>Here's the cron tree:
=>=>
=>=> 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
=>=>16571 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>=>16572 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup 
-set backup -incremental
=>=>16846 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [sh] 
=>=>16573 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi 
-oem -oi -t
=>=>
=>=>And here's the gzip:
=>=>
=>=>16860 ?S  0:01 gzip -9
=>=>
=>=>and ps -ef shows
=>=>
=>=>root 16860 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>=>root 16571  3480  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 crond
=>=>root 16572 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w 
/usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
=>=>smmsp16573 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail 
-FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>=>root 16846 16572  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 [sh] 
=>=>
=>=>which shows that gzip is now the child of init which means that his parent 
=>=>exited and orphaned him. And 16846 seems to not be getting cleanup up by 
=>=>flexbackup.
=>=>
=>=>Anyone have an idea of what this all means?
=>
=>Next day and we got lucky. It happened again
=>
=>
=>root  3480  0.0  0.0   2668   468 ?Ss   Aug27   0:01 crond
=>root 16571  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?SNov24   0:00  \_ crond
=>root 16572  0.0  0.5   8320  5960 ?Ss   Nov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
=>root 16846  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?ZNov24   0:00  |   |  \_ 
[sh] 
=>smmsp16573  0.0  0.2   7344  2744 ?SNov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>root 21193  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ crond
=>root 21194  0.0  0.5   8320  5952 ?Ss   03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -differential
=>root 21377  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?Z03:31   0:00  |  \_ 
[sh] 
=>smmsp21195  0.0  0.2   7344  2728 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>
=>and we now have two gzips owned by init.
=>
=>526 > ps -ef | grep gzip
=>root 16860 1  0 Nov24 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>root 21419 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:03 gzip -9
=>steveo5813  9890  0 10:28 pts/300:00:00 grep gzip
=>527 > 


Ok. I promise I won't post any more examples. I just had one more from 
last night.

 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
16571 ?S

Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-25 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Friday, Nov 24th 2006 at 22:33 -0500, quoth Steven W. Orr:

=>On Wednesday, Nov 22nd 2006 at 10:51 -0500, quoth Charlie Brady:
=>
=>=>
=>=>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>=>
=>=>> =>Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not 
terminated. 
=>=>> =>What does "ps fax" tell you?
=>=>> =>
=>=>> =>> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?
=>=>> =>
=>=>> =>I don't know why you are suggesting that.
=>=>> 
=>=>> Right. It's not a zombie like I said above, but since it's not, you're 
=>=>> correct that the issue of SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD would be a red herring. 
From 
=>=>> the ps output above, it's in a sleep state. Your question about who the 
=>=>> parent is is good. I don't remember because I just killed the process 
=>=>> after I sent this message but I believe (from previous incidents) it is 
=>=>> the child of flexbackup. So the tree should be
=>=>> 
=>=>> cron
=>=>> \_bash
=>=>>  \_flexbackup
=>=>>   \_gzip
=>=>
=>=>No, the tree should never be just that. Something should be feeding gzip, 
=>=>and gzip should be feeding something. Both "somethings" should be children 
=>=>of flexbackup. The exact identity of the "somethings" will depend on your 
=>=>configuration.
=>=> 
=>=>> What I think is happening is that flexbackup is waiting for gzip to 
=>=>> complete before it exits. But gzip doesn't exit because it's waiting for 
=>=>> more input, not knowing that more isn't coming. 
=>=>
=>=>Yes, and you need to determine why no more input is coming, and yet the 
=>=>program providing such input to gzip has not exited.
=>=>
=>=>> Sometimes I can go a month without a hangup, and sometimes it hangs 
=>=>> multiple times per week. Do we need to wait for a reoccurance or is this 
=>=>> enough to be able to work with?
=>=>
=>=>It's not enough because you haven't given us the full information. Since 
=>=>you've killed the gzip process, we can't determine what was feeding it 
=>=>input and why it was blocked. If you can show the actual process tree 
=>=>rather than what you think "should" be there, then we can provide more 
=>=>debugging instructions.
=>=>
=>=>Perhaps if you describe your configuration someone can speculate about 
=>=>what process was blocked and why.
=>
=>Ok. I got a new one today and I'm leaving it around so we can figure this 
=>thing out.
=>
=>Here's the cron tree:
=>
=> 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
=>16571 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
=>16572 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set 
backup -incremental
=>16846 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [sh] 
=>16573 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi 
-oem -oi -t
=>
=>And here's the gzip:
=>
=>16860 ?S  0:01 gzip -9
=>
=>and ps -ef shows
=>
=>root 16860 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
=>root 16571  3480  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 crond
=>root 16572 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w 
/usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
=>smmsp16573 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail 
-FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
=>root 16846 16572  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 [sh] 
=>
=>which shows that gzip is now the child of init which means that his parent 
=>exited and orphaned him. And 16846 seems to not be getting cleanup up by 
=>flexbackup.
=>
=>Anyone have an idea of what this all means?

Next day and we got lucky. It happened again


root  3480  0.0  0.0   2668   468 ?Ss   Aug27   0:01 crond
root 16571  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?SNov24   0:00  \_ crond
root 16572  0.0  0.5   8320  5960 ?Ss   Nov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
root 16846  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?ZNov24   0:00  |   |  \_ 
[sh] 
smmsp16573  0.0  0.2   7344  2744 ?SNov24   0:00  |   \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t
root 21193  0.0  0.0   3292   988 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ crond
root 21194  0.0  0.5   8320  5952 ?Ss   03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -differential
root 21377  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?Z03:31   0:00  |  \_ 
[sh] 
smmsp21195  0.0  0.2   7344  2728 ?S03:31   0:00  \_ 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem -oi -t

and we now have two gzips owned by init.

526 > ps -ef | grep gzip
root 16860 1  0 Nov24 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
root 21419 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:03 gzip -9
steveo5813  9890  0 10:28 pts/300:00:00 grep gzip
527 > 

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Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-24 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Wednesday, Nov 22nd 2006 at 10:51 -0500, quoth Charlie Brady:

=>
=>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>
=>> =>Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not 
terminated. 
=>> =>What does "ps fax" tell you?
=>> =>
=>> =>> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?
=>> =>
=>> =>I don't know why you are suggesting that.
=>> 
=>> Right. It's not a zombie like I said above, but since it's not, you're 
=>> correct that the issue of SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD would be a red herring. From 
=>> the ps output above, it's in a sleep state. Your question about who the 
=>> parent is is good. I don't remember because I just killed the process 
=>> after I sent this message but I believe (from previous incidents) it is 
=>> the child of flexbackup. So the tree should be
=>> 
=>> cron
=>> \_bash
=>>  \_flexbackup
=>>   \_gzip
=>
=>No, the tree should never be just that. Something should be feeding gzip, 
=>and gzip should be feeding something. Both "somethings" should be children 
=>of flexbackup. The exact identity of the "somethings" will depend on your 
=>configuration.
=> 
=>> What I think is happening is that flexbackup is waiting for gzip to 
=>> complete before it exits. But gzip doesn't exit because it's waiting for 
=>> more input, not knowing that more isn't coming. 
=>
=>Yes, and you need to determine why no more input is coming, and yet the 
=>program providing such input to gzip has not exited.
=>
=>> Sometimes I can go a month without a hangup, and sometimes it hangs 
=>> multiple times per week. Do we need to wait for a reoccurance or is this 
=>> enough to be able to work with?
=>
=>It's not enough because you haven't given us the full information. Since 
=>you've killed the gzip process, we can't determine what was feeding it 
=>input and why it was blocked. If you can show the actual process tree 
=>rather than what you think "should" be there, then we can provide more 
=>debugging instructions.
=>
=>Perhaps if you describe your configuration someone can speculate about 
=>what process was blocked and why.

Ok. I got a new one today and I'm leaving it around so we can figure this 
thing out.

Here's the cron tree:

 3480 ?Ss 0:01 crond
16571 ?S  0:00  \_ crond
16572 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/flexbackup -set 
backup -incremental
16846 ?Z  0:00  |   \_ [sh] 
16573 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon -i -odi -oem 
-oi -t

And here's the gzip:

16860 ?S  0:01 gzip -9

and ps -ef shows

root 16860 1  0 03:31 ?00:00:01 gzip -9
root 16571  3480  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 crond
root 16572 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w 
/usr/bin/flexbackup -set backup -incremental
smmsp16573 16571  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail -FCronDaemon 
-i -odi -oem -oi -t
root 16846 16572  0 03:31 ?00:00:00 [sh] 

which shows that gzip is now the child of init which means that his parent 
exited and orphaned him. And 16846 seems to not be getting cleanup up by 
flexbackup.

Anyone have an idea of what this all means?

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Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-22 Thread Charlie Brady

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:

> =>Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not terminated. 
> =>What does "ps fax" tell you?
> =>
> =>> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?
> =>
> =>I don't know why you are suggesting that.
> 
> Right. It's not a zombie like I said above, but since it's not, you're 
> correct that the issue of SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD would be a red herring. From 
> the ps output above, it's in a sleep state. Your question about who the 
> parent is is good. I don't remember because I just killed the process 
> after I sent this message but I believe (from previous incidents) it is 
> the child of flexbackup. So the tree should be
> 
> cron
> \_bash
>  \_flexbackup
>   \_gzip

No, the tree should never be just that. Something should be feeding gzip, 
and gzip should be feeding something. Both "somethings" should be children 
of flexbackup. The exact identity of the "somethings" will depend on your 
configuration.
 
> What I think is happening is that flexbackup is waiting for gzip to 
> complete before it exits. But gzip doesn't exit because it's waiting for 
> more input, not knowing that more isn't coming. 

Yes, and you need to determine why no more input is coming, and yet the 
program providing such input to gzip has not exited.

> Sometimes I can go a month without a hangup, and sometimes it hangs 
> multiple times per week. Do we need to wait for a reoccurance or is this 
> enough to be able to work with?

It's not enough because you haven't given us the full information. Since 
you've killed the gzip process, we can't determine what was feeding it 
input and why it was blocked. If you can show the actual process tree 
rather than what you think "should" be there, then we can provide more 
debugging instructions.

Perhaps if you describe your configuration someone can speculate about 
what process was blocked and why.

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Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-22 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Wednesday, Nov 22nd 2006 at 10:01 -0500, quoth Charlie Brady:

=>
=>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>
=>> I'm running 1.2.1 and on an occasional basis I end up with a gzip process 
=>> that does not get reaped. It's not a zombie process, it's just hanging 
=>> waiting for it's parent to reap it.
=>
=>Your statement doesn't make sense.
=>
=>A zombie is a process which has exited. The process's remains are kept by
=>the kernel waiting for the parent to reap. Running processes (which have
=>not exited) do not wait for their parents to reap them.
=>
=>A process is either still running, or it is a process which is a zombie 
=>and has not been reaped. There's no such thing as a dead process which has 
=>not been reaped which is not a zombie
=>
=>> Here's what ps shows:
=>> 
=>> root 23277  0.0  0.0   1784   592 ?S03:31   0:03 gzip -9
=>
=>Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not terminated. 
=>What does "ps fax" tell you?
=>
=>> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?
=>
=>I don't know why you are suggesting that.

Right. It's not a zombie like I said above, but since it's not, you're 
correct that the issue of SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD would be a red herring. From 
the ps output above, it's in a sleep state. Your question about who the 
parent is is good. I don't remember because I just killed the process 
after I sent this message but I believe (from previous incidents) it is 
the child of flexbackup. So the tree should be

cron
\_bash
 \_flexbackup
  \_gzip

What I think is happening is that flexbackup is waiting for gzip to 
complete before it exits. But gzip doesn't exit because it's waiting for 
more input, not knowing that more isn't coming. 

Sometimes I can go a month without a hangup, and sometimes it hangs 
multiple times per week. Do we need to wait for a reoccurance or is this 
enough to be able to work with?

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Re: [flexbackup-help] gzip not reaped.

2006-11-22 Thread Charlie Brady

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote:

> I'm running 1.2.1 and on an occasional basis I end up with a gzip process 
> that does not get reaped. It's not a zombie process, it's just hanging 
> waiting for it's parent to reap it.

Your statement doesn't make sense.

A zombie is a process which has exited. The process's remains are kept by
the kernel waiting for the parent to reap. Running processes (which have
not exited) do not wait for their parents to reap them.

A process is either still running, or it is a process which is a zombie 
and has not been reaped. There's no such thing as a dead process which has 
not been reaped which is not a zombie

> Here's what ps shows:
> 
> root 23277  0.0  0.0   1784   592 ?S03:31   0:03 gzip -9

Whatever is feeding the standard input of that process has not terminated. 
What does "ps fax" tell you?

> Do we need to modify flexbackup to set SIG_IGN for SIGCHLD?

I don't know why you are suggesting that.

> Anybody home?

Lights are on.


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