Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
At Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:42:38 +1100, Julian Leviston wrote: > > I'm curious, does Frank and its precursors (sub-cursors?) include sound, or > only visual languages? Some sound processing was experimented in Nile, and a small application to control it was written in KSWorld, but the Frank document editor never provided a real sound features. -- Yoshiki ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
At Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:13:29 -0700, David Girle wrote: > > Figure 1 of TR-2013-002, "KScript and KSWorld ... " would appear to > indicate the headless piece of Frank might be 2-3,000 LOC ? > Would that be a possible first step to publish, before the full 10,000 LOC ? That may be an option, right. -- Yoshiki ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
I'm curious, does Frank and its precursors (sub-cursors?) include sound, or only visual languages? Julian On 15 Nov 2013, at 5:13 pm, David Girle wrote: > Figure 1 of TR-2013-002, "KScript and KSWorld ... " would appear to indicate > the headless piece of Frank might be 2-3,000 LOC ? > Would that be a possible first step to publish, before the full 10,000 LOC ? > > david > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima > wrote: > I still want to release Frank for example... We revised the syntax of > KScript during the its life time and still many parts of it is written > in the old syntax. Yes, it is about 10,000 lines of code, but it is > still some work to convert them all. > > A movie of demo would be good, yes. > > Thank you for the interest! > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brian Rice wrote: > > Well, I certainly appreciate the effort and can fill in some details from > > how long we've been tracking the project externally. That said, I look > > forward to some more concrete and hopefully interactive details. Right now, > > it's difficult for me to communicate this to others except in person with a > > lot of hand-waving. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima > > wrote: > >> > >> At Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:37:02 +0100, > >> Loup Vaillant-David wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video > >> > recording there? > >> > >> There is no video recording but only the slides in the PDF file. I'm > >> afrait that some of the stuff in it may not make sense unless > >> accompanied by commentary. > >> > >> -- Yoshiki > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: > >> > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > >> > > > >> > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Karl > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > fonc mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >> ___ > >> fonc mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Brian T. Rice > > > > ___ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > -- > -- Yoshiki > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
Figure 1 of TR-2013-002, "KScript and KSWorld ... " would appear to indicate the headless piece of Frank might be 2-3,000 LOC ? Would that be a possible first step to publish, before the full 10,000 LOC ? david On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > I still want to release Frank for example... We revised the syntax of > KScript during the its life time and still many parts of it is written > in the old syntax. Yes, it is about 10,000 lines of code, but it is > still some work to convert them all. > > A movie of demo would be good, yes. > > Thank you for the interest! > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brian Rice wrote: > > Well, I certainly appreciate the effort and can fill in some details from > > how long we've been tracking the project externally. That said, I look > > forward to some more concrete and hopefully interactive details. Right > now, > > it's difficult for me to communicate this to others except in person > with a > > lot of hand-waving. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> At Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:37:02 +0100, > >> Loup Vaillant-David wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video > >> > recording there? > >> > >> There is no video recording but only the slides in the PDF file. I'm > >> afrait that some of the stuff in it may not make sense unless > >> accompanied by commentary. > >> > >> -- Yoshiki > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: > >> > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > >> > > > >> > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Karl > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > fonc mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >> ___ > >> fonc mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Brian T. Rice > > > > ___ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > -- > -- Yoshiki > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
On 14 November 2013 17:48, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > I still want to release Frank for example... We revised the syntax of > KScript during the its life time and still many parts of it is written > in the old syntax. Yes, it is about 10,000 lines of code, but it is > still some work to convert them all. > Please do release it then. If it doesn't work, or it's not fully up-to-date, don't worry, many of us would still love to see it. ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
I still want to release Frank for example... We revised the syntax of KScript during the its life time and still many parts of it is written in the old syntax. Yes, it is about 10,000 lines of code, but it is still some work to convert them all. A movie of demo would be good, yes. Thank you for the interest! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brian Rice wrote: > Well, I certainly appreciate the effort and can fill in some details from > how long we've been tracking the project externally. That said, I look > forward to some more concrete and hopefully interactive details. Right now, > it's difficult for me to communicate this to others except in person with a > lot of hand-waving. > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima > wrote: >> >> At Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:37:02 +0100, >> Loup Vaillant-David wrote: >> > >> > >> > I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video >> > recording there? >> >> There is no video recording but only the slides in the PDF file. I'm >> afrait that some of the stuff in it may not make sense unless >> accompanied by commentary. >> >> -- Yoshiki >> >> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: >> > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 >> > > >> > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Karl >> > >> > ___ >> > fonc mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >> ___ >> fonc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > -- > -Brian T. Rice > > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > -- -- Yoshiki ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
Well, I certainly appreciate the effort and can fill in some details from how long we've been tracking the project externally. That said, I look forward to some more concrete and hopefully interactive details. Right now, it's difficult for me to communicate this to others except in person with a lot of hand-waving. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > At Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:37:02 +0100, > Loup Vaillant-David wrote: > > > > > > I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video > > recording there? > > There is no video recording but only the slides in the PDF file. I'm > afrait that some of the stuff in it may not make sense unless > accompanied by commentary. > > -- Yoshiki > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: > > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > > > > > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Karl > > > > ___ > > fonc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > -- -Brian T. Rice ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
At Sat, 9 Nov 2013 10:37:02 +0100, Loup Vaillant-David wrote: > > > I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video > recording there? There is no video recording but only the slides in the PDF file. I'm afrait that some of the stuff in it may not make sense unless accompanied by commentary. -- Yoshiki > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > > > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > > > > Cheers, > > Karl > > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
I don't understand the first link... Am I supposed to find a video recording there? Loup. On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 01:12:24PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote: > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > > Cheers, > Karl ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Thank you, Karl! > > An interesting thing happened at the conference (I'ts about David > Ungar asking a question to type theorists). I wrote about it (in > Japanese): > > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131101#p1 I gather that letting Google to translate it is a bad idea; so I attempted to do it by myself. http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131109#p1 -- -- Yoshiki ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
Re: [fonc] Really nice presentation of the VPRI project
Thank you, Karl! An interesting thing happened at the conference (I'ts about David Ungar asking a question to type theorists). I wrote about it (in Japanese): http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131101#p1 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:12 AM, karl ramberg wrote: > http://d.hatena.ne.jp/squeaker/20131103#p1 > > http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/AGERE2013/AGERESlides.pdf (33 Mb) > > Cheers, > Karl > > > ___ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > -- -- Yoshiki ___ fonc mailing list [email protected] http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
