Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-09-23 Thread Glenn Adams 
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:01 AM, MartinKl  wrote:

> Hello,
> thank you for reaction.
>
> I just wanted to explained why is not so easy to make automatic test.  I´ve
> decided to upgrade to fop 1.1 but I strugle the same problem.
>
>
> http://apache-fop.1065347.n5.nabble.com/Upgrading-fop-0-95-to-fop-1-1-because-of-PDF-A-1b-td41090.html#a41160
> <
> http://apache-fop.1065347.n5.nabble.com/Upgrading-fop-0-95-to-fop-1-1-because-of-PDF-A-1b-td41090.html#a41160
> >
>
> There is also an example.
>
> It is solved now but I had to apply two patches on stable 1.1 version to
> make it work.  Now we embed full fonts to the pdfs but the size of them
> increased dramatically so I would prefer to solve it.
>

A lot of work has occurred in trunk since 1.1 to reduce font embed sizes.
You really should try the current trunk build.


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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-09-23 Thread MartinKl 
Hello,
thank you for reaction.

I just wanted to explained why is not so easy to make automatic test.  I´ve
decided to upgrade to fop 1.1 but I strugle the same problem.  

http://apache-fop.1065347.n5.nabble.com/Upgrading-fop-0-95-to-fop-1-1-because-of-PDF-A-1b-td41090.html#a41160

  

There is also an example.

It is solved now but I had to apply two patches on stable 1.1 version to
make it work.  Now we embed full fonts to the pdfs but the size of them
increased dramatically so I would prefer to solve it.

Great Regards
Martin 



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-09-22 Thread Glenn Adams 
As I believe has been mentioned before, any part of the process of
translating from arbitrary XML into XSL-FO proper is effectively out of
scope for this ML and group unless it is a real bug in the convenience
mechanism provided by FOP to invoke XSLT for you.

If there is a problem parsing or formatting XSL-FO input, then you need to
focus on creating the smallest possible example of XSL-FO document that
demonstrates the problem.

Everything else that happens up to providing XSL-FO input should be viewed
as secondary as far as FOP is concerned.

Cheers,
Glenn

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM, MartinKl 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I havent meantion one important thing about how we produce document. We do
> it in two ways. The first we use xsl-fo and xml with data. The second one
> is
> that we have a "special" markup language which produce xls transformation.
> The markup language is even simplier than hmtl and serves good for simple
> documents mostly with static content. Lots of people in the bank can use it
> but they also make mistakes in it.
>
>
> And that the problem causing retesting a big group of real templates. With
> automatic test I can cover most of the mistakes but not those user made
> ones.
>
> Another problem is the upgrade doesnt bring much new for us from bussines
> side so it is hard to get a budget because bussines managers do not see any
> added value.
>
> I hope I explained it well :) Who work for bank probably smile now because
> he knows what I am talking about :)
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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-09-22 Thread MartinKl 
Hello,
I havent meantion one important thing about how we produce document. We do
it in two ways. The first we use xsl-fo and xml with data. The second one is
that we have a "special" markup language which produce xls transformation.
The markup language is even simplier than hmtl and serves good for simple
documents mostly with static content. Lots of people in the bank can use it
but they also make mistakes in it.  


And that the problem causing retesting a big group of real templates. With
automatic test I can cover most of the mistakes but not those user made
ones. 

Another problem is the upgrade doesnt bring much new for us from bussines
side so it is hard to get a budget because bussines managers do not see any
added value.

I hope I explained it well :) Who work for bank probably smile now because
he knows what I am talking about :)





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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-09-22 Thread Ulrich Mayring 
Furthermore, the cost of not having automated tests for your PDF generation 
eclipses any other cost mentioned so far.


If I were a banker and my IT guy told me he can't upgrade a library, because 
he does not have automated tests... hmm :)


Ulrich

Rob Sargent wrote:

Furthermore, the cost of remaining behind the curve is not to be ignored!
On 08/04/2014 10:23 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:

I've had the pleasure of upgrading from .9x to 1.0 (and beyond) and the
only problem I had with the requirement that each cell in a table had an
empty block (when of course there is not content).  One solid pass through
the stylesheets cleaned that up.

rjs

On 08/04/2014 10:18 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:

Hi Martin,

The preflight warning occurs because the font is only subset, instead of
fully embedded. In later FOP versions you can specify
embedding-mode="full" attribute on the font configuration, but that's not
available in FOP v0.95.

Thanks,

Chris

On 04/08/2014 16:55, MartinKl wrote:

Thank you for your response.

I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know that the
version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone wants to
pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error below from
adobe acrobat





my fop.xconf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf


I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf


and doc.pdf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf



Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

Great Regards
Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Bowditch 

Hi Martin,

There is no way to fully embed the font in FOP 0.95. If upgrading is not 
possible, It may be you can avoid the preflight error another way, e.g. 
by using a different Font. The error says that a CID subset is 
incomplete. Since you have to use a subset in 0.95, you could try to use 
a non-CID font instead.


Thanks,

Chris

On 06/08/2014 15:39, MartinKl wrote:

Hello Chris,

Thank you for your response.

Do I have any option to "tell" fop 0.95 that I want to embbed all fonts
trought fop.xconf or programatically?

Great Regards
Martin



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-06 Thread MartinKl 
Hello Chris,

Thank you for your response.

Do I have any option to "tell" fop 0.95 that I want to embbed all fonts
trought fop.xconf or programatically?

Great Regards
Martin 



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread MartinKl 
Sorry for not including previous conversation.

So how can I embbed all fonts to pdf file? I got it from these resources
that it is possible. 

quote
/Note that FOP does not currently support "tagged PDF" or PDF/A-1a. Support
for PDF/A-1b and PDF/X has recently been added, however./

http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#pdf
  

and quote
/Make sure all (!) fonts are embedded. If you use base 14 fonts (like
Helvetica) you need to obtain a license for them and embed them like any
other font./

http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/pdfa.html
  

Thank you all for help. 

Great Regards
Martin 



rsargent wrote
> Furthermore, the cost of remaining behind the curve is not to be ignored!
> On 08/04/2014 10:23 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>> I've had the pleasure of upgrading from .9x to 1.0 (and beyond) and 
>> the only problem I had with the requirement that each cell in a table 
>> had an empty block (when of course there is not content).  One solid 
>> pass through the stylesheets cleaned that up.
>>
>> rjs
>>
>> On 08/04/2014 10:18 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> The preflight warning occurs because the font is only subset, instead 
>>> of fully embedded. In later FOP versions you can specify 
>>> embedding-mode="full" attribute on the font configuration, but that's 
>>> not available in FOP v0.95.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 04/08/2014 16:55, MartinKl wrote:
 Thank you for your response.

 I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know 
 that the
 version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone 
 wants to
 pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

 I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error 
 below from
 adobe acrobat

 ;
  



 my fop.xconf is here
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf
 ;

 I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf
 ;

 and doc.pdf is here
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf
 ;


 Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

 Great Regards
 Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread MartinKl 
Of course we would like to upgrade but it is not possible right now because
of lack of resources (testers, money,..) and amount of templates which would 
must be tested.   But we are trying to force it. 

Thank you for your response

Great Regards
Martin Klapec

btw. This explain everything about working in a bank ;)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b6li6e63YxY/SwNVKzxJ0RI/AqU/hHtp4K0K09s/s1600/Dilbert.gif

  





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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread MartinKl 
Ahh that is why it did not work. I thought when FOP 0.95 supports PDF/A-1b it
does it with all required things like embedding full fonts. Probably it is
old version of fop and ISO rules has changed ???

Is this violation of PDF/A-1b blocker? I mean when it can be problem? 

Thank you for your response.

Great Regards
Martin



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread Rob Sargent 

Furthermore, the cost of remaining behind the curve is not to be ignored!
On 08/04/2014 10:23 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:
I've had the pleasure of upgrading from .9x to 1.0 (and beyond) and 
the only problem I had with the requirement that each cell in a table 
had an empty block (when of course there is not content).  One solid 
pass through the stylesheets cleaned that up.


rjs

On 08/04/2014 10:18 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:

Hi Martin,

The preflight warning occurs because the font is only subset, instead 
of fully embedded. In later FOP versions you can specify 
embedding-mode="full" attribute on the font configuration, but that's 
not available in FOP v0.95.


Thanks,

Chris

On 04/08/2014 16:55, MartinKl wrote:

Thank you for your response.

I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know 
that the
version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone 
wants to

pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error 
below from

adobe acrobat

 




my fop.xconf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf


I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf


and doc.pdf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf



Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

Great Regards
Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread Rob Sargent 
I've had the pleasure of upgrading from .9x to 1.0 (and beyond) and the 
only problem I had with the requirement that each cell in a table had an 
empty block (when of course there is not content). One solid pass 
through the stylesheets cleaned that up.


rjs

On 08/04/2014 10:18 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote:

Hi Martin,

The preflight warning occurs because the font is only subset, instead 
of fully embedded. In later FOP versions you can specify 
embedding-mode="full" attribute on the font configuration, but that's 
not available in FOP v0.95.


Thanks,

Chris

On 04/08/2014 16:55, MartinKl wrote:

Thank you for your response.

I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know that 
the
version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone 
wants to

pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error 
below from

adobe acrobat

 




my fop.xconf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf


I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf


and doc.pdf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf



Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

Great Regards
Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread Chris Bowditch 

Hi Martin,

The preflight warning occurs because the font is only subset, instead of 
fully embedded. In later FOP versions you can specify 
embedding-mode="full" attribute on the font configuration, but that's 
not available in FOP v0.95.


Thanks,

Chris

On 04/08/2014 16:55, MartinKl wrote:

Thank you for your response.

I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know that the
version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone wants to
pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error below from
adobe acrobat




my fop.xconf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf


I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf


and doc.pdf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf



Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

Great Regards
Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread MartinKl 
Hello,

thank you for your response. About deactivation font cache.  The cache is
for fonts which could not be loaded so next time the apache fop wont try to
load the due performance issues. When I delete the cache font file and run
document generation the cache file is there again with my provided fonts (In
total commander default viewer is possible see the fonts and their paths).
So I am not sure why pdf generation goes oke and I get pdf/A-1b document
with this one error. 

Thank you for response.
Great Regards
Martin 



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RE: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread MartinKl 
Thank you for your response.

I am trying to generate PDF/A-1b document using FOP 0.95. I know that the
version is very old but it is very hard to upgrade because noone wants to
pay for it such amount of money for retesting all templates (Bank).

I am struggeling with embedding fonts into pdf file. I get error below from
adobe acrobat


 


my fop.xconf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/42y70t37ttdv5g6/fop.xconf
  

I´ve also created report from adobe acrobat which can be usefull.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9isf4oo7u0hq6pq/doc_report.pdf
  

and doc.pdf is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17s2osoljmmh9s/doc.pdf
  


Thank you for response. I hope I´ve provided enough info.

Great Regards
Martin Klapec



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Re: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread Pascal Sancho 
Hi,

To prevent FOP from using font cache, you can configure FOP to deactivate it:
just add this in your configuration file:
false

Notes:
Metric files are deprecated since FOP 1.0.
With FOP 0.94 et 0.95, such files were usefull only if you wanted to
only reference fonts, not embed them in PDF.

Since FOP 1.0, there is a command line tool to get font list:
org.apache.fop.tools.fontlist.FontListMain


2014-08-04 14:07 GMT+02:00 MartinKl :
> Hello,
> I have problems with loading fonts and the default fonts are used instead.
> I´ve generated fonts metrics using TTFReader which is in FOP0.95. Then I
> paste to our application and configured paths to it.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  weight="normal"/>
> ...
>
> but everytime I run document generation from our application I always found
> all fonts from config file in op-fonts.cache which means the fonts were not
> loaded and wont be loaded againg.
>
> I would like to ask if there a way how to get more information about the
> problem? Some extended logging? Because I do not get what is wrong with it.
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> Great Regards
> MartinKl
>
>
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RE: Loading fonts problem

2014-08-04 Thread A Gian 
Hello,
 it would be easier for people to help you if you provide more information 
(configuration,  fo and output file ).  
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/fonts.html#registerhave some info 
about font configuration in case you have not seen it already.
Thanks in advance 
Thanasis
 
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 05:07:18 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Loading fonts problem
> 
> Hello,
> I have problems with loading fonts and the default fonts are used instead. 
> I´ve generated fonts metrics using TTFReader which is in FOP0.95. Then I
> paste to our application and configured paths to it. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  weight="normal"/>
> ...
> 
> but everytime I run document generation from our application I always found
> all fonts from config file in op-fonts.cache which means the fonts were not
> loaded and wont be loaded againg.  
> 
> I would like to ask if there a way how to get more information about the
> problem? Some extended logging? Because I do not get what is wrong with it.
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Great Regards
> MartinKl 
> 
> 
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