RE: Table continuation headers

2012-07-02 Thread Craig Christophersen
The value for variable $tabNum is achievied by using xsl:number and count 
attribute to count the tables in the source xml, from whatever node you want to 
count from relative to the current table node.

 

From: gavin bowe [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Table continuation headers

 

Aha, of course. Thank you. It would probably be better that I ask my other 
questions in a more appropriate forum. 

On 01/07/2012 15:50, Glenn Adams wrote: 

better to use text-align="start" instead of "left" for correct handling of both 
lr and rl writing modes

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, gavin bowe  wrote:

Thanks Craig,

That's a handy workaround - although you can only use  
within static content as far as I understand such things. It would be good to 
know how to access the formal table number (shown as $tabNum in the extract 
below).

The XSL for the continuation text would also need to be internationalized and 
new localized entries created in the customization layer files for each 
supported language. I'm not quite sure how to implement the I18n bit - any 
"key" pointers would be welcome. I expect that the placement of the text might 
also need to be internationalized to support languages that don't read from top 
left to bottom right.

Gavin

On 26/06/2012 23:47, Craig Christophersen wrote:

There is a way to accomplish this currently using retrieve-markers.
In fo:page-sequence element







































Then in fo:table-header element:













Table  (Continued)












   Then formatting f

Re: Table continuation headers

2012-07-02 Thread gavin bowe
Aha, of course. Thank you. It would probably be better that I ask my 
other questions in a more appropriate forum.


On 01/07/2012 15:50, Glenn Adams wrote:
better to use text-align="start" instead of "left" for correct 
handling of both lr and rl writing modes


On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, gavin bowe > wrote:


Thanks Craig,

That's a handy workaround - although you can only use
 within static content as far as I understand
such things. It would be good to know how to access the formal
table number (shown as $tabNum in the extract below).

The XSL for the continuation text would also need to be
internationalized and new localized entries created in the
customization layer files for each supported language. I'm not
quite sure how to implement the I18n bit - any "key" pointers
would be welcome. I expect that the placement of the text might
also need to be internationalized to support languages that don't
read from top left to bottom right.

Gavin

On 26/06/2012 23:47, Craig Christophersen wrote:

There is a way to accomplish this currently using
retrieve-markers.
In fo:page-sequence element


































Then in fo:table-header element:







 
  Table
select="$tabNum"/>  (Continued)






   Then formatting for other rows.

Then in fo:table-body element:










 
 
Table 

(Continued)







 

It takes a bit getting this to work, but it does work.  Here
is a link that helps:
http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect3/markers.html#d14055e100
Also there is more info out there if you search.  Might even
be some on this in users forum.

Hope it helps, Craig


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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-07-01 Thread Glenn Adams
better to use text-align="start" instead of "left" for correct handling of
both lr and rl writing modes

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, gavin bowe  wrote:

> Thanks Craig,
>
> That's a handy workaround - although you can only use 
> within static content as far as I understand such things. It would be good
> to know how to access the formal table number (shown as $tabNum in the
> extract below).
>
> The XSL for the continuation text would also need to be internationalized
> and new localized entries created in the customization layer files for each
> supported language. I'm not quite sure how to implement the I18n bit - any
> "key" pointers would be welcome. I expect that the placement of the text
> might also need to be internationalized to support languages that don't
> read from top left to bottom right.
>
> Gavin
>
> On 26/06/2012 23:47, Craig Christophersen wrote:
>
>> There is a way to accomplish this currently using retrieve-markers.
>> In fo:page-sequence element
>> 
>> > width="100%" border-bottom-style="solid" height="18mm">
>> > column-width="70mm"/>
>> > column-width="118mm"/>
>> 
>> > height="6mm">
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> > height="6mm">
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>   
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> > font-style="italic" padding-before="2mm"  padding-after="2mm"
>> text-align="center">
>>
>> > retrieve-position="first-**starting-within-page"
>> retrieve-boundary="page"/>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Then in fo:table-header element:
>> 
>> 
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   > font-style="italic" text-align="center" keep-with-next="always"
>> padding-before="1mm" padding-after="1mm">
>>
>>
>>
>>   > border-bottom-style="solid"  border-width=".5pt">
>>
>>   Table 
>> (Continued)
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>Then formatting for other rows.
>>
>> Then in fo:table-body element:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   > text-indent="5mm" font-style="italic" text-align="center"
>> keep-with-next="always" padding-before="1mm" padding-after="2mm">
>>
>>
>>
>>   > border-bottom-style="solid"  border-width=".5pt">
>>
>>
>> Table  (Continued)
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>> 
>>
>> It takes a bit getting this to work, but it does work.  Here is a link
>> that helps:
>> http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/**sect3/markers.html#d14055e100
>> Also there is more info out there if you search.  Might even be some on
>> this in users forum.
>>
>> Hope it helps, Craig
>>
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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-07-01 Thread gavin bowe

Thanks Craig,

That's a handy workaround - although you can only use 
 within static content as far as I understand such 
things. It would be good to know how to access the formal table number 
(shown as $tabNum in the extract below).


The XSL for the continuation text would also need to be 
internationalized and new localized entries created in the customization 
layer files for each supported language. I'm not quite sure how to 
implement the I18n bit - any "key" pointers would be welcome. I expect 
that the placement of the text might also need to be internationalized 
to support languages that don't read from top left to bottom right.


Gavin

On 26/06/2012 23:47, Craig Christophersen wrote:

There is a way to accomplish this currently using retrieve-markers.
In fo:page-sequence element





































Then in fo:table-header element:


  
  





  
  

Table  (Continued)
  
  


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Then formatting for other rows.

Then in fo:table-body element:















  
  

Table  
(Continued)
 

Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-29 Thread Stefan Hinz

Thanks, Chris! Good to hear this is on the radar!

Stefan

On 29.06.2012 17:47, Chris Bowditch wrote:

On 28/06/2012 14:21, Stefan Hinz wrote:

Hi Luis,


Hi Stefan,




Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple
of months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything
so far but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers.
So we don't need to start from zero.


So does this mean that table continuation headers *are* on the
roadmap, or at least on the radar?


Yes. Table-marker support is on the roadmap, but other bugs/issues keep
getting in the way of implementing them, so we can't give you a firm ETA
on when they will be supported.

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-29 Thread Chris Bowditch

On 28/06/2012 14:21, Stefan Hinz wrote:

Hi Luis,


Hi Stefan,




Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple
of months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything
so far but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers.
So we don't need to start from zero.


So does this mean that table continuation headers *are* on the 
roadmap, or at least on the radar?


Yes. Table-marker support is on the roadmap, but other bugs/issues keep 
getting in the way of implementing them, so we can't give you a firm ETA 
on when they will be supported.


Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-28 Thread Stefan Hinz

Hi Luis,


Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple
of months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything
so far but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers.
So we don't need to start from zero.


So does this mean that table continuation headers *are* on the roadmap, 
or at least on the radar?


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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-28 Thread Stefan Hinz
(Continued)
  
  


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

It takes a bit getting this to work, but it does work.  Here is a link that 
helps:
http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect3/markers.html#d14055e100
Also there is more info out there if you search.  Might even be some on this in 
users forum.

Hope it helps, Craig



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From: Luis Bernardo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Table continuation headers


Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple of 
months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything so far 
but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers.
So we don't need to start from zero.


On 6/25/12 4:34 PM, Stefan Hinz wrote:

Thanks for confirming, Glenn!

Cheers,

Stefan

On 25.06.2012 16:17, Glenn Adams wrote:


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Hinz mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

 Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's
 just joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book.
:-)


Thanks for Gavin's input, which is accurate to my knowledge.

 My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the
 |retrieve-table-marker| property with tables, and is unlikely to do
 so in the near future. See
 http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html, which implies
 that the property will likely not be supported in 1.1(?). A modified
 table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd prefer to insert a
 modified table title as in the XEP |rx:table-omit-initial-header|
 extension - but it would be better than nothing.


Correct, FOP does not currently support retrieve-table-marker. There
has been no activity on implementing this feature, so it definitely
will not be in FOP 1.1. I can't say when a patch or a volunteer will
materialize to work on this, so it will remain TBD until that time.

G.








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RE: Table continuation headers

2012-06-26 Thread Craig Christophersen
)















 

It takes a bit getting this to work, but it does work.  Here is a link that 
helps:
http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/sect3/markers.html#d14055e100
Also there is more info out there if you search.  Might even be some on this in 
users forum.

Hope it helps, Craig



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From: Luis Bernardo [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Table continuation headers


Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple of 
months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything so far 
but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers. 
So we don't need to start from zero.


On 6/25/12 4:34 PM, Stefan Hinz wrote:
> Thanks for confirming, Glenn!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefan
>
> On 25.06.2012 16:17, Glenn Adams wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Hinz > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's
>> just joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book. 
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Thanks for Gavin's input, which is accurate to my knowledge.
>>
>> My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the
>> |retrieve-table-marker| property with tables, and is unlikely to do
>> so in the near future. See
>> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html, which implies
>> that the property will likely not be supported in 1.1(?). A modified
>> table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd prefer to insert a
>> modified table title as in the XEP |rx:table-omit-initial-header|
>> extension - but it would be better than nothing.
>>
>>
>> Correct, FOP does not currently support retrieve-table-marker. There 
>> has been no activity on implementing this feature, so it definitely 
>> will not be in FOP 1.1. I can't say when a patch or a volunteer will 
>> materialize to work on this, so it will remain TBD until that time.
>>
>> G.
>>
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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-26 Thread Luis Bernardo


Incidentally I started looking at this recently but it will be a couple 
of months before I am able to show some code. I haven't written anything 
so far but I found there is already some code in FOP for table markers. 
So we don't need to start from zero.



On 6/25/12 4:34 PM, Stefan Hinz wrote:

Thanks for confirming, Glenn!

Cheers,

Stefan

On 25.06.2012 16:17, Glenn Adams wrote:


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Hinz mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's
just joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book. :-)


Thanks for Gavin's input, which is accurate to my knowledge.

My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the
|retrieve-table-marker| property with tables, and is unlikely to do
so in the near future. See
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html, which implies
that the property will likely not be supported in 1.1(?). A modified
table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd prefer to insert a
modified table title as in the XEP |rx:table-omit-initial-header|
extension - but it would be better than nothing.


Correct, FOP does not currently support retrieve-table-marker. There has
been no activity on implementing this feature, so it definitely will not
be in FOP 1.1. I can't say when a patch or a volunteer will materialize
to work on this, so it will remain TBD until that time.

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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-25 Thread Stefan Hinz

Thanks for confirming, Glenn!

Cheers,

Stefan

On 25.06.2012 16:17, Glenn Adams wrote:


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Hinz mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's
just joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book. :-)


Thanks for Gavin's input, which is accurate to my knowledge.

My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the
|retrieve-table-marker| property with tables, and is unlikely to do
so in the near future. See
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html, which implies
that the property will likely not be supported in 1.1(?). A modified
table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd prefer to insert a
modified table title as in the XEP |rx:table-omit-initial-header|
extension - but it would be better than nothing.


Correct, FOP does not currently support retrieve-table-marker. There has
been no activity on implementing this feature, so it definitely will not
be in FOP 1.1. I can't say when a patch or a volunteer will materialize
to work on this, so it will remain TBD until that time.

G.




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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-25 Thread Glenn Adams
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Stefan Hinz  wrote:

>  Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's just
> joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book. :-)
>

Thanks for Gavin's input, which is accurate to my knowledge.


> My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the
> retrieve-table-marker property with tables, and is unlikely to do so in
> the near future. See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html,
> which implies that the property will likely not be supported in 1.1(?). A
> modified table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd prefer to insert a
> modified table title as in the XEP rx:table-omit-initial-header extension
> - but it would be better than nothing.
>

Correct, FOP does not currently support retrieve-table-marker. There has
been no activity on implementing this feature, so it definitely will not be
in FOP 1.1. I can't say when a patch or a volunteer will materialize to
work on this, so it will remain TBD until that time.

G.


Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-25 Thread Stefan Hinz

  
  
Hi Glenn,
  
  Below is an explanation sent on behalf of my colleague Gavin who's
  just joined this list. He's mostly citing from Bob's fine book.  :-) 
  
  Apparently, this seems to answer the question I raised, albeit not
  in a way that I'd have preferred. 
  :-\ 
  
  If you're aware of anything different let me know; thanks much!
  
  Cheers,
  
  Stefan
  Quote from DocBookXSL: The Complete Guide 4th edition
by Bob Stayton:
  --- begin---
  
  A "continued" label for long tables is not a standard feature
of XSL-FO 1.0. It is supported in XSL-FO 1.1 using the retrieve-table-marker property. Since
version 1.1 became a standard only in December 2006, support for
its features is gradually being added to XSL-FO processors. You
might check your XSL-FO processor documentation to see if that
property is supported. If so, then a different customization is
needed than the one described here. The DocBook XSL stylesheets
will output 1.1 features when more processors support them.
  However, if you are using the XEP processor from RenderX, then
you can use an extension long provided by that processor. The
extension is in the form of an attribute rx:table-omit-initial-header="true"
that is applied to a layout table that wraps around the table
content, but is inside the fo:block
that contains the table title too.
  This strangely-named attribute's function is to prevent a table
header row from appearing on the first page of a table, and
allowing it to appear on any subsequent pages if the table is
long enough to break across a page boundary. You do not use it
on the table's column headings, but rather on a special table
header that repeats the table title along with the "continued"
label. By omitting it on the first page of the table, you get
the behavior you want.
  The additional table header is not in the original fo:table, but in a wrapper table around
it. The wrapper table has one column, the width of the entire
table, one header cell for the continued title, and one body
cell to contain the original fo:table.
When such a table breaks across the page, the new page will
display the continued title, a repeat of the original table
column headings, and then continue the table rows.
  --- end ---
  
  My understanding is that FOP 1.0 does not support the use of the retrieve-table-marker property with
  tables, and is unlikely to do so in the near future. See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/compliance.html,
  which implies that the property will likely not be supported in
  1.1(?). A modified table header isn't an ideal solution - I'd
  prefer to insert a modified table title as in the XEP rx:table-omit-initial-header extension -
  but it would be better than nothing.
  
  On 22.06.2012 18:33, Glenn Adams wrote:

Perhaps you could describe what language
  features/extensions that XEP uses to do this?
  
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Stefan
Hinz 
wrote:
A colleague
  of mine is working to implement company standards for tables.
  In PDF, those standards require table continuation headers, by
  repeating the table title followed by the string "(Continued)"
  at the top of the page.
  
  XEP supports this, but FOP doesn't. Does anyone know of plans
  to support this in FOP in the future?
  
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Re: Table continuation headers

2012-06-22 Thread Glenn Adams
Perhaps you could describe what language features/extensions that XEP uses
to do this?

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Stefan Hinz  wrote:

> A colleague of mine is working to implement company standards for tables.
> In PDF, those standards require table continuation headers, by repeating
> the table title followed by the string "(Continued)" at the top of the page.
>
> XEP supports this, but FOP doesn't. Does anyone know of plans to support
> this in FOP in the future?
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Stefan Hinz , MySQL Documentation Manager
>
> Phone: +49-30-82702940, Fax: +49-30-82702941, http://dev.mysql.com/doc
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