Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West
Or question one on the FAQ ;)

/b

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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Andrew Thompson
On 6/4/2010 10:46 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> Brian,
>
>Can you be any more specific?  I'd love to do some testing...
>

He means build it, use it, break it, and document how you broke it, so 
it can be fixed.

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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread François Delawarde
Sorry for asking questions in the wrong place, didn't mean to annoy. :-S

François.


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> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Brian West 
> wrote:
> fax_enable_t38=false
> 
> /b
> 
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:23 AM, François Delawarde wrote:
> 
> > Looks pretty cool, will try that!
> >
> > A few more questions:
> > - How does it work (more or less)?
> > - Will normal bridges (no fax) work when t38_gateway app is
> called?
> > - Can it fallback to audio fax if the peer does not support
> t38?
> > - In passthru case, what happens if t38_passthru is not
> defined and the
> > peer reinvites with t38 (any reason for having to set
> t38_passthru?)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > François.
> 
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West
No you don't have to use the gateway option.  Gateway is for tdm to sip and sip 
to tdm if you're going straight sip to rxfax you just need rxfax.. nothing more.

/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Fowler, Peter (Peter) wrote:

> So to receive a fax (transmitted via t38 from an audiocodes gateway or ITSP) 
> as a tiff file I would do something like:
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> Peter


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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Fowler, Peter (Peter)
So to receive a fax (transmitted via t38 from an audiocodes gateway or ITSP) as 
a tiff file I would do something like:


  




   


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Peter

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian West [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38
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> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:49 AM, François Delawarde wrote:
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> > How is t38_gateway used?
> > 
> > Is it fully automatic and autodetects between all possible cases to 
> > activate when needed (G711<->G711, T38<->G711, G711<->T38 and 
> > T38<->T38), or does one has to specify which leg has T.38 
> and activate 
> > the gateway only when needed?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > François.
> 
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Anthony Minessale
it's a media bug.
it just hides in the background like fax_detect and if it hears a fax tone
it turns into gateway mode.
from there it can re-invite OR wait for re-invite, if no negotiation is made
it will pass the audio fax across anyway.
passthrough is turned on with a variable, if set everything goes on as
normal (no need for proxy mode)
it will pass the t38 invite both ways and if it realizes there is a t38
negotiation it will pass it.

for regular termination it's just automatic, either send or wait for
re-invite based on config

It probably does everything and anything you want better than you think,
just try it.




On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

> You could use FreeSWITCH in proxy media or bypass media without any
> specific T38 support right now...
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Peder  wrote:
> > Is T38 forced on if you do this, or does it just enable the feature if it
> > sees it in a reinvite?  We have a bunch of fax lines w/ SPA2102 and then
> we
> > use Cisco routers as PRI-SIP gateways.  Some of the people use the lines
> for
> > phone too, so I need it to support T38 and regular g711 calls.  Right now
> we
> > just point the SPAs direct to the Cisco gateway and it works fine, but we
> > lose all accounting capability, voicemail, etc that we want/need.
> >
>
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Anthony Minessale
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Brian West  wrote:

> fax_enable_t38=false
>
> /b
>
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:23 AM, François Delawarde wrote:
>
> > Looks pretty cool, will try that!
> >
> > A few more questions:
> > - How does it work (more or less)?
> > - Will normal bridges (no fax) work when t38_gateway app is called?
> > - Can it fallback to audio fax if the peer does not support t38?
> > - In passthru case, what happens if t38_passthru is not defined and the
> > peer reinvites with t38 (any reason for having to set t38_passthru?)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > François.
>
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
You could use FreeSWITCH in proxy media or bypass media without any
specific T38 support right now...

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Peder  wrote:
> Is T38 forced on if you do this, or does it just enable the feature if it
> sees it in a reinvite?  We have a bunch of fax lines w/ SPA2102 and then we
> use Cisco routers as PRI-SIP gateways.  Some of the people use the lines for
> phone too, so I need it to support T38 and regular g711 calls.  Right now we
> just point the SPAs direct to the Cisco gateway and it works fine, but we
> lose all accounting capability, voicemail, etc that we want/need.
>

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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West
fax_enable_t38=false

/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:23 AM, François Delawarde wrote:

> Looks pretty cool, will try that!
> 
> A few more questions:
> - How does it work (more or less)?
> - Will normal bridges (no fax) work when t38_gateway app is called?
> - Can it fallback to audio fax if the peer does not support t38?
> - In passthru case, what happens if t38_passthru is not defined and the
> peer reinvites with t38 (any reason for having to set t38_passthru?)?
> 
> Thanks,
> François.


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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread François Delawarde
Looks pretty cool, will try that!

A few more questions:
- How does it work (more or less)?
- Will normal bridges (no fax) work when t38_gateway app is called?
- Can it fallback to audio fax if the peer does not support t38?
- In passthru case, what happens if t38_passthru is not defined and the
peer reinvites with t38 (any reason for having to set t38_passthru?)?

Thanks,
François.


On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 09:58 -0500, Brian West wrote:
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> 
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:49 AM, François Delawarde wrote:
> 
> > How is t38_gateway used?
> > 
> > Is it fully automatic and autodetects between all possible cases to
> > activate when needed (G711<->G711, T38<->G711, G711<->T38 and
> > T38<->T38), or does one has to specify which leg has T.38 and activate
> > the gateway only when needed?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > François.
> 
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Peder
Is T38 forced on if you do this, or does it just enable the feature if it
sees it in a reinvite?  We have a bunch of fax lines w/ SPA2102 and then we
use Cisco routers as PRI-SIP gateways.  Some of the people use the lines for
phone too, so I need it to support T38 and regular g711 calls.  Right now we
just point the SPAs direct to the Cisco gateway and it works fine, but we
lose all accounting capability, voicemail, etc that we want/need.  


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian West
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38


  


  




  





  






  





  



/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:49 AM, François Delawarde wrote:

> How is t38_gateway used?
> 
> Is it fully automatic and autodetects between all possible cases to
> activate when needed (G711<->G711, T38<->G711, G711<->T38 and
> T38<->T38), or does one has to specify which leg has T.38 and activate
> the gateway only when needed?
> 
> Thanks,
> François.


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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West

  


  


   
 
  

 

 







 
   
  
 
 

   
   




/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:49 AM, François Delawarde wrote:

> How is t38_gateway used?
> 
> Is it fully automatic and autodetects between all possible cases to
> activate when needed (G711<->G711, T38<->G711, G711<->T38 and
> T38<->T38), or does one has to specify which leg has T.38 and activate
> the gateway only when needed?
> 
> Thanks,
> François.


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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West
It works very well.  Try it you'll be shocked.

/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

> Brian,
> 
>  Can you be any more specific?  I'd love to do some testing...
> 
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Brian West  wrote:
>> Its in mod_spandsp now and yes its been tested but I'm sure their are some
>> more corner cases that aren't accounted for.
>> /b
>> On Ju

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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread François Delawarde
How is t38_gateway used?

Is it fully automatic and autodetects between all possible cases to
activate when needed (G711<->G711, T38<->G711, G711<->T38 and
T38<->T38), or does one has to specify which leg has T.38 and activate
the gateway only when needed?

Thanks,
François.

On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 09:26 -0500, Brian West wrote:
> Its in mod_spandsp now and yes its been tested but I'm sure their are
> some more corner cases that aren't accounted for.
> 
> 
> /b
> 
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Fowler, Peter (Peter) wrote:
> 
> >  
> > What is the current shape of T38 support in mod_fax in the trunk? Is
> > it ready for prime time (real world use) or is it still in
> > development?
> >  
> > Peter
> 
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Brian,

  Can you be any more specific?  I'd love to do some testing...

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Brian West  wrote:
> Its in mod_spandsp now and yes its been tested but I'm sure their are some
> more corner cases that aren't accounted for.
> /b
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Fowler, Peter (Peter) wrote:
>
>
> What is the current shape of T38 support in mod_fax in the trunk? Is it
> ready for prime time (real world use) or is it still in development?
>
> Peter
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Re: [Freeswitch-dev] t38

2010-06-04 Thread Brian West
Its in mod_spandsp now and yes its been tested but I'm sure their are some more 
corner cases that aren't accounted for.

/b

On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Fowler, Peter (Peter) wrote:

>  
> What is the current shape of T38 support in mod_fax in the trunk? Is it ready 
> for prime time (real world use) or is it still in development?
>  
> Peter

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