Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-12 Thread Michael . Grosser
 Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Juni 2015 um 02:54 Uhr
 Von: Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org
 An: fvwm f...@fvwm.org
 Betreff: Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 01:39:34AM +0100, Ethan Raynor wrote:
  If I give some thought, would a patch be useful to the man page to
  perhaps add in some more useful information from this tutorial post?
 
 Maybe.  But remember that you shouldn't try and dump the information
 from that mailing list message into the man page.  I'm not sure how much
 of it is useful for the man page, but I'll await your patch first of
 all.
 
 -- Thomas Adam
 
 -- 
 Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
 not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
 

I have a supplementary idea. Some man pages have a 'see also' section
at the bottom. Why not just add a 'see also' section to the FVWM man
page and add the URLs to some useful other pages there?

Another Quote (Dan Espen):
 The man page is meant to be a complete reference.
 This means you have to find all the pieces.

With just the 'see also' section, the man page could
make it easier for the reader to find all the other
relevant pieces.

- Michael -



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-11 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 01:39:34AM +0100, Ethan Raynor wrote:
 If I give some thought, would a patch be useful to the man page to
 perhaps add in some more useful information from this tutorial post?

Maybe.  But remember that you shouldn't try and dump the information
from that mailing list message into the man page.  I'm not sure how much
of it is useful for the man page, but I'll await your patch first of
all.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-11 Thread Ethan Raynor
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:
 I agree, really nice.

 Except for where Thomas talks about function setRCDefaults,
 I think you'll find it all in the man page.

 The tutorial style is good for explaining how all the
 parts work together.

 The man page is meant to be a complete reference.
 This means you have to find all the pieces.

Hi Dan,

I can understand that, but I think it's difficult to always be able to
piece together the information from the man page. The tutorial was so
helpful for things like a file structure layout, and the differences
between InitFunction and StartFunction.

If I give some thought, would a patch be useful to the man page to
perhaps add in some more useful information from this tutorial post?

Thanks!

Ethan



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-10 Thread Ethan Raynor
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Jaimos Skriletz
jaimosskril...@boisestate.edu wrote:

Hi Jaimos!

 Read the man page under INITIALIZATION for a complete description of the
 start up procedure and how fvwm looks for its config file. Basically it
 looks in a few places (including old standards) then defaults to a minimal
 config which is equivalent (afaik) to having a blank config file.

Are you the same person who wrote the fvwm beginners guide? If so,
thank you so much for that!  Yes, I've read the INITIALIZATION section
in the man page. That part I understand. I wasn't asking so much about
the files fvwm looks for which a user might define, but more trying to
understand the bits which come before it.

For example, there must be a file somewhere which has some key
bindings for default things, or some function definitions, etc., for
alt-tab. Is that true?  I was wondering where this is documented, if
at all.

Thanks!

Ethan



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-10 Thread Thomas Adam
On 10 June 2015 at 23:56, Ethan Raynor ethanrayno...@gmail.com wrote:
 For example, there must be a file somewhere which has some key
 bindings for default things, or some function definitions, etc., for
 alt-tab. Is that true?  I was wondering where this is documented, if
 at all.

http://fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FVWMStartupProcedure/

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-10 Thread Ethan Raynor
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote:
 On 10 June 2015 at 23:56, Ethan Raynor ethanrayno...@gmail.com wrote:
 For example, there must be a file somewhere which has some key
 bindings for default things, or some function definitions, etc., for
 alt-tab. Is that true?  I was wondering where this is documented, if
 at all.

 http://fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FVWMStartupProcedure/

Wowza! This document is amazing!  Is there some reason why most of
this isn't referenced in the man page, may I ask?

Ethan



Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Espen
Ethan Raynor ethanrayno...@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote:
 On 10 June 2015 at 23:56, Ethan Raynor ethanrayno...@gmail.com wrote:
 For example, there must be a file somewhere which has some key
 bindings for default things, or some function definitions, etc., for
 alt-tab. Is that true?  I was wondering where this is documented, if
 at all.

 http://fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FVWMStartupProcedure/

 Wowza! This document is amazing!  Is there some reason why most of
 this isn't referenced in the man page, may I ask?

I agree, really nice.

Except for where Thomas talks about function setRCDefaults,
I think you'll find it all in the man page.

The tutorial style is good for explaining how all the
parts work together.

The man page is meant to be a complete reference.
This means you have to find all the pieces.

-- 
Dan Espen