Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-15 Thread Michael Bouschen

Hi,

I successfully tested the pulldowns on Firefox 141.0.3 and Chrome 
139.0.7258.128.


Regards Michael

Am 15.08.25 um 22:40 schrieb Rick Hillegas:
Thanks. I can confirm that the pulldowns work with Firefox 139.0.1 
(64-bit).


On 8/15/25 12:06 PM, Tilmann wrote:
I think I fixed the site, the menu seems to work again. Please let me 
know if you find more issues.


The current setup is somewhat outdated, it uses the "content" 
subfolder and ".htaccess". Without these the website didn't show at all.


Also thank to Tobias for reviewing the initial PR.

Best,
Til


On 14/08/2025 23:25, Julian Hyde wrote:
Correct. For me, the drop-downs with white text at the top of the 
page don’t work. The blue hyperlinks elsewhere on the page work fine.


On Aug 13, 2025, at 4:29 PM, Rick Hillegas 
 wrote:


I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower 
down on the page work, but nothing happens when I click on the 
pulldowns in the banner-line, the ones labelled "General", 
"Subprojects", and "Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? 
Is the problem bigger than that on your browsers?


On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on 
macOS.)



On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:

I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I 
see no problem when I click the top level links on 
https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More 
detail would be appreciated.
Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my 
end, neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.


Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.


I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
(script-src-elem) at 
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js 
from being executed because it violates the following directive: 
“script-src 'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 
https://www.apachecon.com/ https://www.communityovercode.org/ 
https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” 
db.apache.org



This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap 
apparently needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but 
whatever).


Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
     
https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6


Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on 
yours. Maybe my newer FF version is stricter about these things?


Best,

- Elric





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-15 Thread Rick Hillegas

Thanks. I can confirm that the pulldowns work with Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit).

On 8/15/25 12:06 PM, Tilmann wrote:
I think I fixed the site, the menu seems to work again. Please let me 
know if you find more issues.


The current setup is somewhat outdated, it uses the "content" 
subfolder and ".htaccess". Without these the website didn't show at all.


Also thank to Tobias for reviewing the initial PR.

Best,
Til


On 14/08/2025 23:25, Julian Hyde wrote:
Correct. For me, the drop-downs with white text at the top of the 
page don’t work. The blue hyperlinks elsewhere on the page work fine.


On Aug 13, 2025, at 4:29 PM, Rick Hillegas  
wrote:


I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down 
on the page work, but nothing happens when I click on the pulldowns 
in the banner-line, the ones labelled "General", "Subprojects", and 
"Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? Is the problem 
bigger than that on your browsers?


On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on 
macOS.)



On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:

I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see 
no problem when I click the top level links on 
https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More 
detail would be appreciated.
Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my 
end, neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.


Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.


I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
(script-src-elem) at 
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js 
from being executed because it violates the following directive: 
“script-src 'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 
https://www.apachecon.com/ https://www.communityovercode.org/ 
https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” 
db.apache.org



This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap 
apparently needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but 
whatever).


Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
     
https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6


Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on 
yours. Maybe my newer FF version is stricter about these things?


Best,

- Elric





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-15 Thread Tilmann
I think I fixed the site, the menu seems to work again. Please let me 
know if you find more issues.


The current setup is somewhat outdated, it uses the "content" subfolder 
and ".htaccess". Without these the website didn't show at all.


Also thank to Tobias for reviewing the initial PR.

Best,
Til


On 14/08/2025 23:25, Julian Hyde wrote:

Correct. For me, the drop-downs with white text at the top of the page don’t 
work. The blue hyperlinks elsewhere on the page work fine.


On Aug 13, 2025, at 4:29 PM, Rick Hillegas  wrote:

I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down on the page work, but nothing happens 
when I click on the pulldowns in the banner-line, the ones labelled "General", 
"Subprojects", and "Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? Is the problem bigger 
than that on your browsers?

On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:

FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on macOS.)


On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:


I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no problem 
when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 
(64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.

Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, neihter in 
Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.

Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with Content-Security-Policy 
and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.

I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script (script-src-elem) 
at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js from being 
executed because it violates the following directive: “script-src 'self' data: 
blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://www.apachecon.com/ 
https://www.communityovercode.org/ https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ 
https://*.scarf.sh/” db.apache.org


This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap apparently needs 
it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but whatever).

Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
 https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6

Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. Maybe my 
newer FF version is stricter about these things?

Best,

- Elric



Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-14 Thread Julian Hyde
Correct. For me, the drop-downs with white text at the top of the page don’t 
work. The blue hyperlinks elsewhere on the page work fine.

> On Aug 13, 2025, at 4:29 PM, Rick Hillegas  wrote:
> 
> I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down on the 
> page work, but nothing happens when I click on the pulldowns in the 
> banner-line, the ones labelled "General", "Subprojects", and "Foundation". Is 
> the problem you are describing? Is the problem bigger than that on your 
> browsers?
> 
> On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
>> FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on macOS.)
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:
>>> 
 I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no 
 problem when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using 
 Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.
>>> Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, 
>>> neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.
>>> 
>>> Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
>>> Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:
>>> 
>>> Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
>>> (script-src-elem) at 
>>> https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js from 
>>> being executed because it violates the following directive: “script-src 
>>> 'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://www.apachecon.com/ 
>>> https://www.communityovercode.org/ https://*.apache.org/ 
>>> https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” db.apache.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap apparently 
>>> needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but whatever).
>>> 
>>> Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
>>> https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6
>>> 
>>> Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. Maybe 
>>> my newer FF version is stricter about these things?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> - Elric
>>> 
> 



Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-14 Thread Tilmann
It is also broken for me (Windows 11, Firefox 141.03), clicking on the 
menu labels does nothing, they don't even fold down.


I noticed that the PR that should fix the problem never got merged: 
https://github.com/apache/db-site/pull/2


I merged it now, but the build fails. I prepared another PR, but I would 
like to check with Tobias who fixed the problem for our JDO website.


Best,
Til


On 14/08/2025 01:29, Rick Hillegas wrote:
I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down 
on the page work, but nothing happens when I click on the pulldowns in 
the banner-line, the ones labelled "General", "Subprojects", and 
"Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? Is the problem bigger 
than that on your browsers?


On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on 
macOS.)



On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:

I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see 
no problem when I click the top level links on 
https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail 
would be appreciated.
Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, 
neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.


Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.


I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
(script-src-elem) at 
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js 
from being executed because it violates the following directive: 
“script-src 'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 
https://www.apachecon.com/ https://www.communityovercode.org/ 
https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” 
db.apache.org



This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap 
apparently needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but 
whatever).


Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
     
https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6


Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. 
Maybe my newer FF version is stricter about these things?


Best,

- Elric





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-14 Thread Tilmann
It is also broken for me (Windows 11, Firefox 141.03), clicking on the 
menu labels does nothing, they don't even fold down.


I noticed that the PR that should fix the problem never got merged: 
https://github.com/apache/db-site/pull/2


I merged it now, but the build fails. I prepared another PR, but I would 
like to check with Tobias who fixed the problem for our JDO website.


Best,
Til







On 14/08/2025 01:29, Rick Hillegas wrote:
I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down 
on the page work, but nothing happens when I click on the pulldowns in 
the banner-line, the ones labelled "General", "Subprojects", and 
"Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? Is the problem bigger 
than that on your browsers?


On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on 
macOS.)



On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:

I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see 
no problem when I click the top level links on 
https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail 
would be appreciated.
Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, 
neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.


Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.


I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
(script-src-elem) at 
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js 
from being executed because it violates the following directive: 
“script-src 'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 
https://www.apachecon.com/ https://www.communityovercode.org/ 
https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” 
db.apache.org



This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap 
apparently needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but 
whatever).


Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
     
https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6


Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. 
Maybe my newer FF version is stricter about these things?


Best,

- Elric





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
I think I see now. Or at least I see something. The links lower down on 
the page work, but nothing happens when I click on the pulldowns in the 
banner-line, the ones labelled "General", "Subprojects", and 
"Foundation". Is the problem you are describing? Is the problem bigger 
than that on your browsers?


On 8/13/25 1:58 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:

FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on macOS.)


On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:


I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no problem 
when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 139.0.1 
(64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.

Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, neihter in 
Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.

Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with Content-Security-Policy 
and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.

I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script (script-src-elem) 
at https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js from being 
executed because it violates the following directive: “script-src 'self' data: 
blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://www.apachecon.com/ 
https://www.communityovercode.org/ https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ 
https://*.scarf.sh/” db.apache.org


This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap apparently needs 
it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but whatever).

Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
 https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6

Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. Maybe my 
newer FF version is stricter about these things?

Best,

- Elric





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-13 Thread Julian Hyde
FWIW, the nav buttons don’t work on my browser either. (Chrome on macOS.)

> On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:19 PM, Elric V  wrote:
> 
>> I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no problem 
>> when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using Firefox 
>> 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.
> 
> Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, neihter 
> in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.
> 
> Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
> Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.
> 
> I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:
> 
> Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
> (script-src-elem) at 
> https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js from being 
> executed because it violates the following directive: “script-src 'self' 
> data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' https://www.apachecon.com/ 
> https://www.communityovercode.org/ https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ 
> https://*.scarf.sh/” db.apache.org
> 
> 
> This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap apparently needs 
> it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but whatever).
> 
> Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
> https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6
> 
> Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. Maybe my 
> newer FF version is stricter about these things?
> 
> Best,
> 
> - Elric
> 



Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-13 Thread Elric V
I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no 
problem when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using 
Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.


Interesting. The top navigation buttons don't do anything on my end, 
neihter in Firefox 141 nor in Chrome.


Developer Tools suggest that there are some issues with 
Content-Security-Policy and loading data from a Cloudflare CDN.


I'm assuming the most problematic one is this:

Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked a script 
(script-src-elem) at 
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.4/jquery.min.js from 
being executed because it violates the following directive: “script-src 
'self' data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 
https://www.apachecon.com/ https://www.communityovercode.org/ 
https://*.apache.org/ https://apache.org/ https://*.scarf.sh/” db.apache.org



This ultimately results in JQuery not loading, and Bootstrap apparently 
needs it to render a menu (which makes zero sense, but whatever).


Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
 https://db.apache.org/js/bootstrap/3.3.7/bootstrap.min.js:6

Not quite sure why that would break on my browser and not on yours. 
Maybe my newer FF version is stricter about these things?


Best,

 - Elric



Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Maybe Tilmann can contribute to this discussion, having applied a 
similar patch to JDO according to https://github.com/apache/db-site/pull/2


I don't understand what is meant by "navigation is broken". I see no 
problem when I click the top level links on https://db.apache.org/ using 
Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit). More detail would be appreciated.


To my knowledge, the Derby website was last updated when we published 
release 10.17.1.0 in November of 2023. The footer timestamp on 
https://db.apache.org/derby/ (11/14/2023 11:40:42) looks correct to me. 
The Derby community is quiet, to be sure, but not silent yet.


-Rick

On 8/13/25 2:37 AM, Elric V wrote:

Hi folks,

Seems like the navigation on db.apache.org is broken. AFAICT this was 
reported back in April along with a patch [1], but either that didn't 
resolve the issue completely, or things have broken again since then :-/


I simply wanted to find out what the status of the different DB 
projects was, but broken navigation makes that harder. Seems like 
Derby hasn't been updated in years. Can someone confirm whether things 
are alive or dead, or are we dealing with Shrödinger's DB? Perhaps 
help is needed somewhere? If so, it would be nice if that information 
were available somewhere.


Thanks and all the best,

 - Elric


[1] Patch: https://github.com/apache/db-site/pull/2





Re: db.apache.org main site navigation (still) broken, project status unclear

2025-08-13 Thread Elric V
Adding to this: the [email protected] address, listed on the 
Contact Us page, bounces.