Re: [gentoo-user] bridge configuration problem

2008-08-11 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:47:35PM +0100, Stroller wrote: preup() { if [[ ${IFACE} == br0 ]] ; then sleep 30 ; fi return 0 } $ Note that the preup is added in an attempt to overcome similar problems to those you describe - starting or restarting the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You nasty horrible terrible man you. Did you have to remind me of that? :-) Notebook was delivered 10 days ago on a Friday. That night I read the post about it on slashdot. I'm so pissed about this card that I'm tending to

Re: [gentoo-user] Shell problem

2008-08-11 Thread Ivan Alden
Hi Felix, That what it exactly. I couldn't notice it because there were tons of files in that directory. I appreciate your help, Ivan On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 22:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:57:26PM +, Ivan Alden wrote: Hi all, I was working in a shell

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems

[gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?

2008-08-11 Thread Peter Wood
Hi list, A few days ago I upgraded gcc from 4.1.2 to 4.3.1-r1 (upgrading Eclipse-sdk to the latest ~x86 version made installing gcc 4.3.1-r1 necessary, so I thought I would stick with it on my test box). Now I am re-emerging world and have noticed that a number of packages which compiled fine

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/8/11, Peter Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't really mind using the ~x86 version of these packages, but wonder why the old, stable packages won't compile with a newer gcc. Isn't gcc supposed to be downward compatible? No, take a look here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?

2008-08-11 Thread Jan Schneiders
You can put gcc 4.1 in a slot on your system and choose to compile programs that don't work with the newest version, with the old version: # emerge -av sys-devel/gcc:4.1 (you may have to unmask: echo =sys- devel/gcc-4.1.2 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords) # gcc-config -l # gcc-config

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?

2008-08-11 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Probably this sequence needs appropriate c-flags changing in make.conf file after each switching (if I use different ones for 4.3 and 4.3). Doesn't it? === On Monday 11 August 2008, Jan Schneiders wrote: === You can put gcc 4.1 in a slot on your system and choose to compile programs

[gentoo-user] Server migration

2008-08-11 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
In short, I am working on a server migration going from a physical box to a virtual system. I pretty much need everything (software-wise) identical. What is the best way to do that? I was looking at outputting the data from equery to a file, then emerging everything in that file. Is there an

[gentoo-user] Re: [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread James
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? Linux From Scratch allows you to build from the kernel up. I'm sure there are efforts (both dead and struggling) to do something similar to that you have articulated here, in this discussion.

Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration

2008-08-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:31 -0400, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: In short, I am working on a server migration going from a physical box to a virtual system. I pretty much need everything (software-wise) identical. What is the best way to do that? I was looking at outputting the data from equery

Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration

2008-08-11 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:44:43AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: The easiest thing to do would be to migrate system, P2V, as is. I dont' know what virtual server software you are using, but there are tools to do this (plus with Linux it's easy enough doing manually). Aside from that if you

[gentoo-user] gnome update blocks

2008-08-11 Thread Zhou Rui
Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 [2.6.31] USE=python readline -bootstrap -build -debug -doc

Re: [gentoo-user] Discover IP address of random Windows boxes on network?

2008-08-11 Thread David Finkel
You could try findsmb, its part of samba. It will list all systems which respond to netbios requests, on your network. -dave Mark Knecht wrote: Is there a simple way for me to discover the IP address of any random Windows machine that dropped by and hooked up to my network? Extra points if

Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration

2008-08-11 Thread Matt Nordhoff
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: I am migrating from an amd64 based colo server to a linode system that is not amd64, so I don't think most of the automated methods would work, although I could be wrong... Linode? Like http://www.linode.com/? If so, they're starting to support 64-bit (e.g. the

Re: [gentoo-user] Adding a gentoo workstation to Active Directory network

2008-08-11 Thread Yoav Luft
Thanks everyone. I was actually hoping for a read the google, newb response, as long as it had the right search terms, cause I didn't have a clue what to google for :). So again, thanks, I've downloaded a pile of howto's to my workstation and I work on it on my dead time. On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome update blocks

2008-08-11 Thread Justin
Zhou Rui schrieb: Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 [2.6.31] USE=python readline -bootstrap

[gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update

2008-08-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world. Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and a few blockers. (full output is below) I can't understand the first blocker msg [blocks B ] media-video/totem-2.21 (is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new* shells were present.That's why I thought about

[gentoo-user] googleearth

2008-08-11 Thread Matthew R. Lee
Google earth upgraded over the weekend to version 4.2.205.5730. It installed fine but it runs like shit. The rendering is so slow as to be completely unusable. The previous version worked fine so I tried to go back to it but it's gone, at least according to eix. Anybody else having the same

Re: [gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update

2008-08-11 Thread Joshua D Doll
Allan Gottlieb wrote: I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world. Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and a few blockers. (full output is below) I can't understand the first blocker msg [blocks B ] media-video/totem-2.21 (is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 11. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new*

Re: [gentoo-user] googleearth

2008-08-11 Thread Dale
Matthew R. Lee wrote: Google earth upgraded over the weekend to version 4.2.205.5730. It installed fine but it runs like shit. The rendering is so slow as to be completely unusable. The previous version worked fine so I tried to go back to it but it's gone, at least according to eix. Anybody

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: But projects like Haiku and ReactOS created also most of userland from scratch, not only the kernels. reactos tries to copy windows - so it will be using the windows userland. haiku tries to be beos - it is will be able to run beos apps. Also some posix-

Re: [gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update

2008-08-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:50:38 -0700 Joshua D Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Gottlieb wrote: I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world. Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and a few blockers. (full output is below) I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?

2008-08-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? because they wanted to do something different. Yes, very probably. However it's a kind of decision I don't really

Re: [gentoo-user] bridge configuration problem

2008-08-11 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:59:03PM +0800, Shaochun Wang wrote: After adding the preup() function, it works now! It seems that I celebrate too early. It still doesn't work. As a matter of fact, it is so weird! After executing the command brctl addbr br0, the interface br0 is available only for

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome update blocks

2008-08-11 Thread Zhou Rui
2008/8/12 Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zhou Rui schrieb: Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32