Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Stroller
On 26 Jan 2009, at 20:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-01-27 Thread Stroller
On 26 Jan 2009, at 22:51, Grant wrote: ... So for example, miro needs xine to play videos. If I ./configure miro with --prefix=/usr/local, it will install to /usr/local/miro or similar? Yes. Read the configure options for the app you're installing. It might also have a --libprefix or

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange firefox segfault

2009-01-27 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 08:44:12AM +, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick squawked: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:54 +0200, Maxim Kremenev wrote: Or maybe extrem LDFLAGS. We want see your /etc/make.conf ) LDFLAGS are shown by emerge --info, as requested several pages down in the text you quoted.

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-01-27 Thread Hieu, Luu Danh
If you are installing a package by hand and wants to revert back to the previous state, best is to : - when you ./configure it, use the various --prefix directives (do a ./configure --help for information on that) - when you want to remove, make uninstall in the source dir (so don't remove it!) -

[gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:29:55 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-01-26, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: These are shared documents. I can't just change what they are based on my own preferences. I need an app that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 17:46:46 Grant Edwards wrote: I realize I'm arguing a moot point, but using something like .docx for shared documents that need to be maintained by multiple people for a long time (more than a month or two) is a dead awful choice. A plain ascii text file is

[gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 17:46:46 Grant Edwards wrote: I realize I'm arguing a moot point, but using something like .docx for shared documents that need to be maintained by multiple people for a long time (more than a month or two)

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Damian
I almost forgot - trying to emerge amarok2.0.1.1 is almost guaranteed to fail due to the amarok devs have no clue as to how mysql is built, plus other errors: Indeed. I think it's time for me to drop one more kde app. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238487

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, What does it means when the ~amd64 is not one of the keywords used to mask the package? The problem I have is that I would like to install amarok 2 but I cannot unmask it by accepting ~amd64. It is safe to unmask it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:29:55 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-01-26, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: These are shared documents. I can't just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1691 (89728-89777)

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Pitkin wrote: unsubscribe Didn't work did it? Try gentoo-user+unsubscr...@gentoo.org and follow the instructions it sends you back. Or read the headers. Specifically: List-Post: mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 15:16, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:29:55 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-01-26, Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 15:16, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 18:35:07 Damian wrote: I almost forgot - trying to emerge amarok2.0.1.1 is almost guaranteed to fail due to the amarok devs have no clue as to how mysql is built, plus other errors: Indeed. I think it's time for me to drop one more kde app.

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:40:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 18:35:07 Damian wrote: I almost forgot - trying to emerge amarok2.0.1.1 is almost guaranteed to fail due to the amarok devs have no clue as to how mysql is built, plus other errors: Indeed. I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1691 (89728-89777)

2009-01-27 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Pitkin wrote: unsubscribe Didn't work did it? Try gentoo-user+unsubscr...@gentoo.org and follow the instructions it sends you back. Or read the headers. Specifically:

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 20:52:03 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:40:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: And many many other quirks, too many to mention. As a player, it plays OK - sound does come out of the speakers. But players are commodity apps these days. Dump one, use

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 22:51:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 20:52:03 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:40:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: And many many other quirks, too many to mention. As a player, it plays OK - sound does come out of the speakers. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Damian
Thanks Paul and Alan for your advices. OT: For me it's hard to drop amarok because I cannot find all of its funtionality in one player. For now I'm using mpd+sonata. They're great, but it's just not the same. I guess eventually I'll make my own player :P On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Alan

[gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Tom Brown
Hey guys, I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a rock and very low maintenance. However, it provides

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Tom Brown wrote: What about major upgrades? If I keep the system updated regularly, is a major upgrade necessary? Gentoo doesn't have major upgrades so you should be fine. But as you can imagine, you need to give a Gentoo system more love than a Debian one (which is pretty much set it and

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 27 Januar 2009, Tom Brown wrote: Hey guys, I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 22:38:21 Tom Brown wrote: Hey guys, I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. I setup our email server using Debian. Its been

Re: [gentoo-user] X-forwarding questions

2009-01-27 Thread pk
Grant wrote: I just enabled X-forwarding and I've got a few questions for you guys. Should I have any security concerns about doing this? Not more than usual. I assume your online computers have been secured (to a reasonable degree)... Of course if anyone has access to your remote machine

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread Nick Cunningham
2009/1/27 Tom Brown br...@esteem.com Hey guys, I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a rock and

Re: [gentoo-user] X-forwarding questions

2009-01-27 Thread Grant
I just enabled X-forwarding and I've got a few questions for you guys. Should I have any security concerns about doing this? Not more than usual. I assume your online computers have been secured (to a reasonable degree)... Of course if anyone has access to your remote machine (that you run

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-01-27 Thread Grant
If you are installing a package by hand and wants to revert back to the previous state, best is to : - when you ./configure it, use the various --prefix directives (do a ./configure --help for information on that) - when you want to remove, make uninstall in the source dir (so don't remove

Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok only masked with ~x86 keyword

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Paul and Alan for your advices. OT: For me it's hard to drop amarok because I cannot find all of its funtionality in one player. For now I'm using mpd+sonata. They're great, but it's just not the same. I guess

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: If you are installing a package by hand and wants to revert back to the previous state, best is to : - when you ./configure it, use the various --prefix directives (do a ./configure --help for information on that) - when you

[gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
My dad is interested in some sort of an Internet Radio app for his Gnome desktop. He was thinking of buying a Slingbox but has backed off the idea. For a while we played with iTunes under Wine but that's sort of a mess so I'm looking for something native to Linux. Thanks, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Chris Thomas
Does he want to stream audio or listen to streaming audio? If he just wants to listen Rhythmbox (and most audio players) can do that. If he wants to stream, look at icecast. If he buys a slingbox he'll need to run the slingbox software under wine. -Chris On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is interested in some sort of an Internet Radio app for his Gnome desktop. He was thinking of buying a Slingbox but has backed off the idea. For a while we played with iTunes under Wine but that's sort of a mess so

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is interested in some sort of an Internet Radio app for his Gnome desktop. He was thinking of buying a Slingbox but has backed off

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is interested in some sort of an Internet Radio app for

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP What keywords are required to get Amarok 2 to build? I'm not clear what ~*2.0.1.1 means. So from the man page it says that ~* means: This version is masked by missing keyword, stable on no architecture,

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Kenneth Prugh
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP What keywords are required to get Amarok 2 to build? I'm not clear what ~*2.0.1.1 means. So from the man page it says that

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP What keywords are required to get Amarok 2 to build?

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Paul Hartman

[gentoo-user] Re: Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-28, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I give up. I'm at 17 packages I have to unmask and I don't know how to get portage to give me the list of all packages that have to be unmasked. This jsut goes on and on, one package at a time. Yup, that's pretty annoying. I've been

[gentoo-user] emerge --sync kde-base/

2009-01-27 Thread Norberto Bensa
Hello, I'm wondering. Is it posible to emerge --sync part of the tree. For example, I want to only sync kde-base/ and kde-misc/? Thanks in advance, Norberto

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I give up. I'm at 17 packages I have to unmask and I don't know how to get portage to give me the list of all packages that have to be unmasked. emerge autounmask. -- Neil Bothwick Never ask a geek why, just nod your head and slowly

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: My dad has one of those portable internet radios, I don't know the name but it works well and he seems to be pleased with it. (As long as you're in wifi range) So is it the same company? I remember it being the same guys. I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: My dad has one of those portable internet radios, I don't know the name but it works well and he seems to be pleased with it. (As long as you're in wifi range)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync kde-base/

2009-01-27 Thread Nick Cunningham
2009/1/28 Norberto Bensa nbe...@gmail.com Hello, I'm wondering. Is it posible to emerge --sync part of the tree. For example, I want to only sync kde-base/ and kde-misc/? Thanks in advance, Norberto Have a look in make.conf.example, i believe there are some options to filter the tree,

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Nick Cunningham
2009/1/27 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is interested in some sort of an Internet Radio app

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Joshua D Doll
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:41 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync kde-base/

2009-01-27 Thread AllenJB
Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello, I'm wondering. Is it posible to emerge --sync part of the tree. For example, I want to only sync kde-base/ and kde-misc/? Thanks in advance, Norberto No, there isn't. You wouldn't want to try either - there will be relevant files in other parts of the tree (eg.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync kde-base/

2009-01-27 Thread Nick Cunningham
2009/1/28 AllenJB gentoo-li...@allenjb.me.uk Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello, I'm wondering. Is it posible to emerge --sync part of the tree. For example, I want to only sync kde-base/ and kde-misc/? Thanks in advance, Norberto No, there isn't. You wouldn't want to try either - there will

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I give up. I'm at 17 packages I have to unmask and I don't know how to get portage to give me the list of all packages that have to be unmasked. emerge autounmask.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I give up. I'm at 17 packages I have to unmask and I don't know how to get portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Nick Cunningham n...@monkeydust.net wrote: 2009/1/27 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --sync kde-base/

2009-01-27 Thread Norberto Bensa
Thanks NIck and AllenJB I just wanted kde-4.2 like in: hey! I want kde 4.2 and I want it right now! :-) Anyway, I already have it.

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server

2009-01-27 Thread kashani
Tom Brown wrote: Hey guys, I've been using gentoo on my desktop for several months now. I works great. It cut five minutes off my build time when I build our product tree. It went from 20 to 15 minutes. I setup our email server using Debian. Its been solid as a rock and very low maintenance.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet radio?

2009-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Nick Cunningham n...@monkeydust.net wrote: 2009/1/27 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: My dad is

[gentoo-user] INT_(MIN,MAX) is missing from limits.h

2009-01-27 Thread Andrey Vul
and...@andrey-laptop ~ $ echo '#include limits.h' | gcc -E -o - -x c - |grep INT and...@andrey-laptop ~ $ echo '#include limits.h' | gcc -D_POSIX -D _USE_GNU -E -o - -x c - |grep INT and...@andrey-laptop ~ $ echo '#include limits.h' | gcc -D_POSIX -D _USE_GNU --std=c99 -E -o - -x c - |grep INT

[gentoo-user] How to remove packages from /usr/portage/packages ?

2009-01-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Is there some automated way to remove the packages I created with 'quickpkg' and reside inside /usr/portage/packages without doing it by hand? I don't mean 'eclean'. That won't remove those that are installed.