hi all,
i just noticed some warnings in my bootup process. the order of the services
in question is checkfs - localmount - fsck. however, checkfs does the
pending file system checks already before the partitions are mounted, so why
is there another service fsck which seems to do just the same?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone put
something like that together?
Yes.
Can I make use of the combined
bandwidth and not just the redundancy?
Hm. If I understand you correctly, then no. You can't.
But you can -for example- use one link or the
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable media.
It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB
stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail
/var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a desktop icon or
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting
the following:
=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 (=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0)
Is there an issue with 3.5 and 4.2 being installed together? Is the above
block a known issue that's being
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote:
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting
the following:
You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least)
Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:38:22 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it.
But there are 408 (!) blocked packages.
emerge --unmerge kde-meta
didn't do anything.
So, what's a feasible way to upgrade?
Use automunmask, as already mentioned
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:38:03 +, Daniel D Jones wrote:
As a second question, can anyone point me to an informative reference
on ~arch?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3
--
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Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with
Hi,
since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it.
But there are 408 (!) blocked packages.
emerge --unmerge kde-meta
didn't do anything.
So, what's a feasible way to upgrade?
Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.
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Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen
One of my systems needed Real Time Clock - PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in
the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make
the 'hwclock' command work. Another of my systems doesn't have Real
Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works
fine. Does anyone
reQuiem23 schrieb:
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable media.
It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB
stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail
/var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using
it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using
it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
who needs an initramfs?
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:12 -0700 (MST), Dmitry Makovey wrote:
Now my question is: how safe is it to do a workaround, and create local
version of kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0-r1 ebuild (say, -r2) which removes
the block and just stick with 3.5.9 on 3.5 side ? I really don't feel
like unmasking
Mr Cramer, you replied in private email, but your blacklist bounced/dropped my
consequent reply. Replying on-list:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 18:07:02 you wrote:
But emerge tolds me:
emerge -pv rasqual
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies...
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using
it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
who needs an initramfs?
Me of
Am Sonntag, 1. Februar 2009 17:26:23 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
who needs an initramfs?
Those with an encrypted root fs?
Bye...
Dirk
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On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org
wrote:
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm
getting the following:
You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least)
Florian Philipp-4 wrote:
reQuiem23 schrieb:
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable
media.
It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB
stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using
it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
who needs an initramfs?
Me of
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote:
On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org
wrote:
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using
it all the time, makes initramfs
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-02-01 17:49]:
Mr Cramer, you replied in private email, but your blacklist bounced/dropped
my
consequent reply. Replying on-list:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 18:07:02 you wrote:
But emerge tolds me:
emerge -pv rasqual
These are the packages that
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Tom wrote:
who needs an initramfs?
Not me ;)
But seeing this discussion, I've finally realised that I'm a dumbass.
For ages now I've been manually copying the kernel, the system.map and
the config around my filesystem. I've always wondered how on earth
people
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:34:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
I can set the version, either in the kernel config with
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION
or by using a file
localversion
containing a version string?
I am using the first way, don't know the second.
It works just the same, but
El Dom, 1 de Febrero de 2009, 18:27, Tom escribió:
Does this then create a bzImage-versionstring file, and make install
copies this to /boot/kernel-versionstring (and system.map and .config
respectably)?
Yes.
Also how exactly do you then need to build the kernel.
Does a simple 'make'
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote:
3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE
package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10?
(Without, that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can
I simply install the
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:17:59 Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org
wrote:
On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones
ddjo...@riddlemaster.org
wrote:
I have
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote:
Uh, someone's confused here. It may very well be me but I'm not following you
at all. The other post concerned startkde blocking kdelibs.
Yes. I'm sorry. You're using monolithic KDE. I don't remember if
startkde
reQuiem23 wrote:
Florian Philipp-4 wrote:
reQuiem23 schrieb:
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable
media.
It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB
stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:49:03 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote:
3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE
package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10?
(Without, that is, manually unblocking
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:38:48 -0500, ABCD wrote:
To be precise, the config option CONFIG_LOCALVERSION appends a string to
the end of the kernel version, which installkernel uses to place the
kernel image.
You can get the same effect by creating a
On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm
using
it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
who needs an initramfs?
Daniel D Jones wrote:
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:49:03 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote:
3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE
package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10?
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:41:35 -0600, Dale wrote:
emerge -C kde
emerge --depclean -a
emerge -av kde-meta
That's what I was afraid of. Sigh. Thanks.
Could he just emerge -C kde then re-emerge whatever he wanted without
having to reinstall all of KDE? Isn't
puyhon-updater solved my problem.
Cheers,
Arnau
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
I'm a little confused here... what exactly is in .version? Say if I
wanted to identify the kernel as belonging to a specific machine.
HOST is vm23. Now if I wanted to have an incrementing version string
that included that host name
Hi All,
I do not seem to be able to run star with the correct options despite some
experimenting ... and was hoping you could correct my errors.
I seem to have done this successfully in the past, but I am getting
inappropriate results this time round. This is the fs I am trying to back
up:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:10:30 -0800 (PST)
reQuiem23 niklas.baumst...@gmail.com wrote:
Florian Philipp-4 wrote:
reQuiem23 schrieb:
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with
removable media.
It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert
Marc Arens-3 wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:10:30 -0800 (PST)
reQuiem23 niklas.baumst...@gmail.com wrote:
Florian Philipp-4 wrote:
reQuiem23 schrieb:
Hello all,
I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with
removable media.
It was not an upgrade, but a
Grant wrote:
One of my systems needed Real Time Clock - PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in
the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make
the 'hwclock' command work. Another of my systems doesn't have Real
Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works
fine.
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it.
But there are 408 (!) blocked packages.
emerge --unmerge kde-meta
didn't do anything.
You need an emerge -a --depclean after unmerging all -meta packages.
But usually this won't work either since most
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD
iso? According to this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a i686
system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document
with a 2006.0 minimal CD
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Grant wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD
iso? According to this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a i686
system, you need to follow the procedure
I have an old 2006.0 cd. I can make an ISO image if you have a place for me to
upload it to.
From: Grant [mailto:emailgr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 2/1/2009 4:09 PM
To: Gentoo mailing list
Subject: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
Does
as i see the bug has been declared fixed so must be safe to use the
latest livecd
Grant wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD
iso? According to this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a i686
system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document
with a
Daniel D Jones wrote:
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting
the following:
=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 (=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0)
Is there an issue with 3.5 and 4.2 being installed together? Is the above
block a
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage
has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When
did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386?
yes. They merged the
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage
has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When
I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86
an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you?
kh
cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when
you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage
has moved from
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I do not seem to be able to run star with the correct options despite some
experimenting ... and was hoping you could correct my errors.
Try the command lines from the example section in the man page ;-)
The fs is shown to be 1.1G large:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:23:11 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Note that you can put slotted packages in the world file. For example
if all you have in there is kde-base/kdelibs and you remove it,
depclean will remove both KDE3 and well as KDE4 libs. Simply put
kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 in the
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something.
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD
iso? According to this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a i686
system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document
with a 2006.0 minimal
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Basically I build the kernel using make make modules_install and
then copy the kernel by hand using
cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8
or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works
for
Basically I build the kernel using make make modules_install and
then copy the kernel by hand
Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :)
And I was getting really worried that I had made a fool of myself by
posting earlier and admitting my 'stupidity' ;)
Coming from debian, with all that
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Now the build succeeds.
Nevertheless, starting sonic-visualisers complains:
sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: libvamp-hostsdk.so.2:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I cannot find libvamp-hostsdk.
Neither emergeing
On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Basically I build the kernel using make make modules_install and
then copy the kernel by hand using
cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8
or whatever the kernel is. I
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:23:56 +
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:17, Tom wrote:
Basically I build the kernel using make make modules_install and
then copy the kernel by hand
Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :)
What they said.
I'm
Stroller wrote:
On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Basically I build the kernel using make make modules_install and
then copy the kernel by hand using
cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8
or whatever
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you recommend a non-biased news source online?
- Grant
http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and Balanced.
*rofl*
Joke of the day ;-o
cu
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On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote:
...
I think I tried this /or genkernel when I looked at /boot I found
they'd littered the place with clutter.
I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added
made me want to barf.
I have avoided any such complications since,
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
- Grant
For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system
I'm about to install.
Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this?
I _think_ it should be just a case of untarring the stage 3, chrooting
in, updating everything to latest reboot. As long as I use 2.6.28
when I
On 2 Feb 2009, at 04:33, Stroller wrote:
... As long as I use 2.6.28 when I install I don't think there
should be anything that is incompatible with ext4??
I should have added: I plan to use ext3 for my boot partition.
Cheers,
Stroller.
Grant wrote:
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's
correct.
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you recommend a non-biased news source online?
- Grant
http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and Balanced.
*rofl*
Joke of the day ;-o
cu
Nope, not a joke at all. Thinking CNN is fair and balanced would
On 2009-02-01, Geralt usr.gen...@googlemail.com wrote:
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel?
Not me. I do use the debian install utilities.
Ib'm using it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much
easier :-)
Why would one need an initramfs?
--
Grant
Stroller wrote:
For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system
I'm about to install.
Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this?
Yep, SystemRescueCD supports it:
http://www.sysresccd.org
It's even Gentoo-based, what a deal! ;)
I _think_ it should be just
Stroller wrote:
For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system
I'm about to install.
Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this?
I _think_ it should be just a case of untarring the stage 3, chrooting
in, updating everything to latest reboot. As long as I use
Stroller wrote:
On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote:
...
I think I tried this /or genkernel when I looked at /boot I found
they'd littered the place with clutter.
I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added
made me want to barf.
I have avoided any such
After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides
the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs.
ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts).
All my manpages look like this:
ESC[1mNAMEESC[0m
ls - list directory
On Montag 02 Februar 2009, Miernik wrote:
After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides
the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs.
ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts).
All my manpages look like this:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Montag 02 Februar 2009, Miernik wrote:
After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides
the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs.
ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts).
All
On 2 Feb 2009, at 04:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Stroller wrote:
For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new
system I'm about to install.
Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this?
Yep, SystemRescueCD supports it:
http://www.sysresccd.org
It's even
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's
correct.
OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit?
- Grant
Grant wrote:
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's
correct.
OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit?
No. 64-bit is
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes,
that's correct.
OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit?
Nope. i686 is still x86.
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 06:14:17 schrieb Stroller:
Hence I'd be worrying about
incompatibilities when chrooting in, if I used a non-Gentoo one.
When you're chrooted, you _are_ in a Gentoo system. It doesn't matter what
system you used to unpack that stage tarball before.
I use GRML for
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 05:53:34 schrieb Grant Edwards:
Why would one need an initramfs?
That question has already been answered in this thread.
Bye...
Dirk
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I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
netbook laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
Is that correct?
This thread has gotten confusing. If you mean the Acer Aspire One
netbook (of which the A110 is a sub-model)
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Stroller wrote:
On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote:
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I think I tried this /or genkernel when I looked at /boot I found
they'd littered the place with clutter.
I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this
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