Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aliases

2009-04-03 Thread Dale
Thanasis wrote: on 03/27/2009 07:32 AM Dale wrote the following: Thanasis wrote: You can also use the unalias command, eg: $ alias ls='ls -la' $ unalias ls (then it stays unaliased for the session until you alias it again, source .bashrc, etc...). It doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Nmap 4.85BETA5 ebuild (Conficker scanning)

2009-04-03 Thread Stroller
On 2 Apr 2009, at 23:00, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Stroller wrote: This command performs the scan: nmap -PN -T4 -p139,445 -n -v --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args safe=1 192.168.0.0/16 Does this mean that if you have shut down ports 139 445 on the MSWIndows machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Nmap 4.85BETA5 ebuild (Conficker scanning)

2009-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 03 April 2009 08:40:58 Stroller wrote: On 2 Apr 2009, at 23:00, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Stroller wrote: This command performs the scan: nmap -PN -T4 -p139,445 -n -v --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args safe=1 192.168.0.0/16 Does this mean that if you have

Re: [gentoo-user] FYI: xf86-video-intel 2.6.x Bad opengl performance

2009-04-03 Thread Pongrácz István
Hi Mike, Thank you very much for your help, it is really detailed :) More than I expect :) I already read some (short) documents about GEM and now I have a tiny picture about it. Following your way I try to rebuild my X. I missed the x11 overlay eredeti

[gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread alain . didierjean
Has one of you guys already switched from gcc-4.1.2 to gcc-4.3.2 and performed emerge system ? What gives ? Any problem ? Is it worth it right now ? Please tell... -- ~adj~

[gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Carter
I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that says click anywhere to open the console nothing happens. I've not used v2

RE: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Carter
I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that says click anywhere to open the console nothing happens. I've not used v2

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Pongrácz István
eredeti üzenet- Feladó: Thomas Kahle tom...@gmx.de Címzett: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, linux-think...@linux-thinkpad.org Dátum: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:32:32 +0200 - Hi everyone, I use the thinkpad X61s with

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console

2009-04-03 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.auwrote: I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that

[gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi everyone, I use the thinkpad X61s with Intel Graphics Mobile GM965/GL960 running Gentoo. Since an update on Monday I cannot get my X to work the smooth way it was working before. 1) The 2D performance feels very slack, Redrawing Windows just takes longer than it took before and reaction

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console

2009-04-03 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
2009/4/3 Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.au I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that says click anywhere to

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Kahle
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: Has one of you guys already switched from gcc-4.1.2 to gcc-4.3.2 and performed emerge system ? What gives ? Any problem ? Is it worth it right now ? Please tell... -- ~adj~ Yes, I did it at the beginning of the year, it was more or less painfree. There

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Kahle
Pongrácz István wrote: eredeti üzenet- Feladó: Thomas Kahle tom...@gmx.de Címzett: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, linux-think...@linux-thinkpad.org Dátum: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:32:32 +0200 - Hi everyone, I use

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Pongrácz István
Well 2.5.3 is not in the tree anymore and 2.5.1 results in X crashing on Sorry, I made a mistake: I wanted to write 2.5.1-r1.. start with garbled screen. But I will avoid the upgrade after checking that bug :) Thanks for warning You are welcome. I got a hint and I successfully removed

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread Masood Ahmed
alain.didierj...@free.fr writes: Has one of you guys already switched from gcc-4.1.2 to gcc-4.3.2 and performed emerge system ? I did upgrade to 4.3 gcc series from 4.1. There was no compile error's (I'm using ~x86 branch). Both emerge -e system and emerge -e world done using new gcc. What

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Kahle
Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi everyone, I use the thinkpad X61s with Intel Graphics Mobile GM965/GL960 running Gentoo. Since an update on Monday I cannot get my X to work the smooth way it was working before. 1) The 2D performance feels very slack, Redrawing Windows just takes longer than it

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Performance, on Intel Graphics

2009-04-03 Thread Thomas Kahle
Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi everyone, I use the thinkpad X61s with Intel Graphics Mobile GM965/GL960 running Gentoo. Since an update on Monday I cannot get my X to work the smooth way it was working before. 1) The 2D performance feels very slack, Redrawing Windows just takes longer than it

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: Has one of you guys already switched from gcc-4.1.2 to gcc-4.3.2 and performed emerge system ? What gives ? Any problem ? Is it worth it right now ? Please tell... Thanks for the fast answers. It seems there's no problems... -- ~adj~

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo using systemrescuecd and wifi

2009-04-03 Thread maxim wexler
I used eeXbuntu to install mine. Hi Neil, OK, I'll try it. First some questions? Is eeeXbuntu an install/live distro? Was there any wifi issues? Must have wifi throughout the process. Do you use an SD card? If so, are there issues with regard to r/w times as compared to an SSHD? How

Re: [gentoo-user] lynx - cookies

2009-04-03 Thread Philip Webb
090402 Joseph wrote: Can anybody provide configuration for Lynx to accept cookies. I only want to accept the cookies on case-by-case bases and store the default setting, same as Firefox behaviour. You should ask this on the lynx-dev mailing-list, where you are likely to get a very prompt reply

[gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Wyatt Epp
Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are *not* myself and my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers and a Geforce FX-5200 card.

2009-04-03 Thread Mick
On Thursday 02 April 2009, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: How can we forget ... sigh :D But I may take out something important. :/ I try to do that but I am getting older. I forget. I guess I made a lasting impression, albeit bad I guess. Nah! Far from it, not to me anyway. :) --

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Wyatt Epp wrote: or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. that

[gentoo-user] Bluetooth and KDE4

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Hartman
Does anyone know how to transfer files over bluetooth with KDE4? It used to just work in KDE3 by plugging in my bluetooth dongle, but I don't know if it's the recent masking of bluez stuff or KDE4 but now it just doesn't do anything. I feel like I'm missing something really simple :) Thanks,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Wyatt Epp (wyatt@gmail.com) [03.04.09 20:00]: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Wyatt Epp
2009/4/3 Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de: Well honestly: nothing lately. depclean had never removed something what a -avtDuN and a revdep-rebuild couldn't repair. See, though, that's exactly the problem I'm talking about. :) Right now it seems a good chunk of the population uses

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Hartman
2009/4/3 Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de: Well honestly: nothing lately. depclean had never removed something what a -avtDuN and a revdep-rebuild couldn't repair. I use depclean after every update of world for the past 5 years and never had any disaster... I always thought the

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Jarry
Wyatt Epp wrote: BTW: There is no need for an installer... I'm inclined to agree with this. Installers lack flexibility. I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation. Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with parameters and does the rest. There is a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Jarry wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: BTW: There is no need for an installer... I'm inclined to agree with this. Installers lack flexibility. I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation. Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with parameters

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.  Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:47:25 +0530, Masood Ahmed wrote: I like the -march=native and -mtune=native options. As long as you don't use distcc with differing hardware. -- Neil Bothwick Ubuntu is an ancient African word, meaning I can't configure Slackware. signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo using systemrescuecd and wifi

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:14:27 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: I used eeXbuntu to install mine. OK, I'll try it. First some questions? Is eeeXbuntu an install/live distro? Yes,with a script to copy it from CD to USB stick. Was there any wifi issues? Must have wifi throughout the process.

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:15:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: He asked what annoys me, and I answered truthfully :P yeah, but if you think about it for a moment you will see that an installer is the WRONG THING and then you won't be annoyed anymore but glad. Didn't we have this

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:27:57 +0200, Jarry wrote: I'd like to have a possibility of unattended installation. Some kind of script which loads a prepared text-file with parameters and does the rest. http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/quickstart.php -- Neil Bothwick We are upping our standards -

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 03 April 2009 05:15:21 pm Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:47:25 +0530, Masood Ahmed wrote: I like the -march=native and -mtune=native options. As long as you don't use distcc with differing hardware. I did that by accident once and trust me, it's a unforgettable lesson.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones show stopper list of Gentoo defects. Gentoo doesn't *need* an installer and all previous attempts at one have been

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles directory and all ebuilds are available from cvs even years after they have been removed. First comment is incorrect, or correct if you're doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones show stopper list of Gentoo defects.  Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles directory and all ebuilds are available from cvs even years after they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 03 April 2009, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Maybe a sunset overlay with old obsolete ebuilds to complement the sunrise overlay of things-yet-to-hit portage? I like the idea but does it solve the root-cause issue - whatever that might really be - for

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Maybe a sunset overlay with old obsolete ebuilds to complement the sunrise overlay of things-yet-to-hit portage? I like the idea

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Philip Webb
090403 Wyatt Epp wrote: what have people that are *not* myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Nothing at all serious: I remain very grateful to those who do the work. But, I submitted Bug 255463 back on 2009-01-19 there's been no reply.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 April 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:15:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: He asked what annoys me, and I answered truthfully :P yeah, but if you think about it for a moment you will see that an installer is the WRONG THING and then you won't be annoyed

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Arttu V.
Wyatt Epp wrote: So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Mildly irritating, disruptive, etc: - Managing USE flags is sometimes quite irritating, having to fidget around /etc/make.conf,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Higgins
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:45:46 +0800 Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 12 March 2009 10:07:03 Dale wrote: I do understand that getting something stable and working then wanting to keep it that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote: I would still think its a problema. People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already answered and handbook questions. Daniel da

Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so.  Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Its installer. I would prefer something like Sabayon's installer (which is a Gentoo-based distro.) there is no installer anymore. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Its installer. I would prefer something like Sabayon's installer (which is a

[gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [...] maybe, but at the high time of the installer the forum was full with clueless (and it still is). Following the handbook is not hard. If you don't have a second PC, it's not easy either. And besides, what have the clueless done to you? :D Just let them be.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Saphirus Sage
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Its installer. I would prefer something like Sabayon's installer (which is a Gentoo-based distro.) there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [...] maybe, but at the high time of the installer the forum was full with clueless (and it still is). Following the handbook is not hard. If you don't have a second PC, it's not easy

[gentoo-user] Re: How to freeze my Gentoo system

2009-04-03 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Higgins wrote: Looks like I can fix the use flag and clean out ldap if I want to do so, but I'm stuck with pycrypto (or the build use flag): Actually, sys-apps/portage has a PDEPEND on || ( =dev-lang/python-2.5

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [...] maybe, but at the high time of the installer the forum was full with clueless (and it still is). Following the handbook is not hard. If you don't have a second PC, it's not easy either. I wrote down

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [...] maybe, but at the high time of the installer the forum was full with clueless (and it still is). Following the handbook is not hard. If you don't have a second PC, it's not easy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And besides, what have the clueless done to you? :D  Just let them be. well, I try to be a good member of the community - and that means helping in the

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-4.3.2

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:47:25 +0530 Masood Ahmed masood.ahme...@gmail.com wrote: alain.didierj...@free.fr writes: I like the -march=native and -mtune=native options. It's the new thing in gcc 4.3 series. -mtune=native can be dropped if -march=native is there already. -- Mike Kazantsev //