Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 06:27 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, kashani did opine thusly: On 9/6/2010 4:55 PM, Al wrote: Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header. The other contents are

[gentoo-user] emerge fails

2010-09-07 Thread András Csányi
Hi all, I want to rebuild my system and I need packages, so I always use this way to avoid unnecessary compiling (before I start rebuild I always delete all of packages). But, now I got this: sayusi-home sayusi # emerge -eavkt --deep --newuse --update world * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need

Re: [gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-07 Thread Maciej Grela
2010/9/7 路 xaoru2...@163.com: Hi ,everybody          I've met a strang network problem.My gentoo Netbook can't access google and some other web sites after  lying idle about more than half an hour's. But it can acesses  other sites normally ,And can pinging  ervery sites including google very

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
       I'd be interested in how many people still have access to a news server these days. I don't and I'm not particularly interested in having to pay for access when email works well enough. You don't have to pay for access. Everybody can can run his own server for his own groups. It's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 10:47:49 Al wrote: I'd be interested in how many people still have access to a news server these days. I don't and I'm not particularly interested in having to pay for access when email works well enough. You don't have to pay for access. Everybody can

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Well, whether the headers are from an IMAP server or an NNTP server, they're still headers.  It's my understanding that Thunderbird only point 1: Right, if you compare IMAP and NNTP it is similar in this. In NNTP it is the default to only read the header. In mail (IMAP, POP, HTML) it is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
going Uh duh, why didn't I think of that or Thanks, I hadn't thought of that), or b) the subject is something so far off the topic of Gentoo I want to specially point out this. I think it a good habit, to say thank you. It motivates people to support and is always worth a posting. I also think

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Al
When you say Gentoo, do you mean Portage? Remember Windows has a lot of limitations that WILL get in your way so dont be surprised when things break. I am specially interested in Gentoo because it is not another linux distribution, but an administration tool to build your own sources and it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-07 Thread Stroller
On 6 Sep 2010, at 14:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils Larsson did opine thusly: I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are four bars: master,pcm,capture,digital Seems a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing something in the message. Maybe not. Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its called? Then he can have it as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
It would be as simple as this: 1.) enter news.gentoo.org as news server to thunderbird 2.) select the groups you want to read 2 steps not more. That is far more simple than subscribing to a mailing list. Al

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
I don't know who this fellow Al is, but he seems to have a stuck idea from 10+ years ago. Gentoo doesn't have a newsgroup probably because Gentoo users do not want one. My father hasn't internet at all and he doesn't miss it. There are even people that can't read. They don't miss it. There are

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11:56:12 Al wrote: It would be as simple as this: 1.) enter news.gentoo.org as news server to thunderbird 2.) select the groups you want to read 2 steps not more. That is far more simple than subscribing to a mailing list. Al Except that then I need to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:05 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al did opine thusly: I don't know who this fellow Al is, but he seems to have a stuck idea from 10+ years ago. Gentoo doesn't have a newsgroup probably because Gentoo users do not want one. My father hasn't internet at

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
I'm reading your message via a usenet server. linux.gentoo.user is the newsgroup. Replies of course go via the mailing list address. Is that seamless? Can you directly reply to a posting? Easy to set up? How? Usenet is dying because it doesn't attract new users. The old ones are slowly dying

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Norman Rieß
On 09/07/10 01:55, Al wrote: 2.) It is not on a public available gentoo server. I first would need access to alt.os.linux.gentoo. I think if you want so run an maintain such a server, it would be welcome. 3.) It is not synchronized with the mailing list. It is. At least it was when i used

Re: [gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 08:28:32 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/9/7 路 xaoru2...@163.com: Hi ,everybody I've met a strang network problem.My gentoo Netbook can't access google and some other web sites after lying idle about more than half an hour's. But it can acesses other sites

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge fails

2010-09-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 07:29:31 András Csányi wrote: If I use this (upper) command without k it works properly. It probably means that some of your binary packages are out of date and need updating? I rebuild all python packages, I ran revdep-rebuild but the result is same. Did you

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
2010/9/7 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: Except that then I need to do these 2 steps all the time and for every mailing list that I use. Only once for the news groups of gentoo. Only one click to subscribe to a second group. Usenet's strength was that all news-groups were accessible

Re: [gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:40 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 08:28:32 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/9/7 路 xaoru2...@163.com: Hi ,everybody I've met a strang network problem.My gentoo Netbook can't access

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 12:51:36 Al wrote: 2010/9/7 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: Except that then I need to do these 2 steps all the time and for every mailing list that I use. Only once for the news groups of gentoo. Only one click to subscribe to a second group. Per project,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge fails

2010-09-07 Thread András Csányi
On 7 September 2010 12:46, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 07:29:31 András Csányi wrote: If I use this (upper) command without k it works properly. It probably means that some of your binary packages are out of date and need updating? Ohhh... really! :) I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread John Blinka
I paid the extra to get 16:9 @ 1920x1200. Best thing I ever did laptop-wise - I can get two webpages side by side on the screen looking very natural. Mind telling me what you got? The 1200 part sounds attractive to me. John Blinka

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:24 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, John Blinka did opine thusly: I paid the extra to get 16:9 @ 1920x1200. Best thing I ever did laptop-wise - I can get two webpages side by side on the screen looking very natural. Mind telling me what you got? The 1200

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Al writes: being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. At least a news server is not offically announced on http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists. (I can read some, not all of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
There is a simple solution for this: * Enter a bug report at bugs.gentoo.org (It is a web site and AFAIK has no usenet gateway). * Follow the bug there. * End the noise here. Thank you.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Ajai Khattri writes: OK, Ive managed to proceed a little further, but now Im encountering this: # emerge -uDtpvk world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Eray Aslan
On 07.09.2010 15:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: I figure that just like a top-grade mechanic should be looking at SnapOns or similar in his toolbox, this here sysadmin also needs high quality tools. My chief tool is my notebook. It's the weight not the price that is the deciding factor us. I

[gentoo-user] Re: Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread walt
On 09/06/2010 07:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an install button there, but mentions that it would be better if

Re: [gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Nils Larsson
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 04:32:11 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an install button there, but mentions that it would

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Hi Alex, Hmm, ist this really true? We have good bandwith nowadays, even Dale has Take the previous posting of Albert Hopkins as best prove of that: quote * End the noise here. /quote So why does he read the thread, if he considers as noise? He could very simply ignore it using IMAP or

Re: [gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-07 Thread
At 2010-09-07,Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:40 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 08:28:32 Maciej Grela wrote: 2010/9/7 路 xaoru2...@163.com: Hi ,everybody I've met a

Re: [gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-07 Thread Florian CROUZAT
On 7 sept. 2010, at 15:51, 路 wrote: Thinks everyone: DNS woks well for me. i can ping www.google.com. Just can't access it in web-browsers without rebooting system.Sometimes I thought mybe it's the problem of Power.But now i doubt about it! Because even while I am watching videos

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
covici at ccs.covici.com writes: Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user It's quite a nice interface. The only limitation, is posting large text files, like xorg.conf. Or u can use usenet news for reading and

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: We've been here a while and no-one has voiced a desire for a newsgroup. Therefore there isn't one. @tampabay.rr.com (BrightHouse) I use: isp5.newshosting.com There is a news group called: linux.gentoo.user linux.gentoo.dev (etc etc) they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-09-06, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall display (prefereably at least 9-10) without having to increase the width

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
Al oss.elmar at googlemail.com writes: But that is something different from having a dedicated news server for a technological project like news.gentoo.org. However that would make only sense, if it is fully synchronized with the existing lists. Else it would lead to an unnecessary split of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Al oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: I don't know who this fellow Al is, but he seems to have a stuck idea from 10+ years ago. Gentoo doesn't have a newsgroup probably because Gentoo users do not want one. My father hasn't internet at all and he doesn't miss it. There are even people that

[gentoo-user] Re: Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/07/2010 04:32 PM, Nils Larsson wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 04:32:11 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 01:36:28 David W Noon wrote: Moreover, keeping this as a subscription-only mailing list keeps the spam count down. An equally important factor is prohibiting subscriptions from dynamically allocated IP addresses. This has caused me to spend money on a fixed

[gentoo-user] Re: Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/07/2010 06:48 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an install button there,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Al, Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many other very cool features. I do you favour and confirm that it is a very cool web interface to newsgroups. It is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: However, my concern was why the Gentoo community doesn't make use of those cool features and officially only advertises and keeps a mailing list, that has no history itself What do you mean by no history? http://archives.gentoo.org/ -- Arttu V.

[gentoo-user] 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread SpaceCake
Hi, Is there a user friendly guide or howto to help me to migrate my 32 bit gentoo to 64 bit without loosing my settings? Thank you Laszlo

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Jörg Schaible
Al wrote: Al, Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many other very cool features. I do you favour and confirm that it is a very cool web interface to newsgroups.

[gentoo-user] Unable to set screen frequency

2010-09-07 Thread econti
Hi all after upgrading KDE I cannot set the screen frequency. By default it is set to 50 Hz, but it should be 54 Hz. Every time I have to change it, but every time I start the PC the frequency is always at 50 Hz. This both as root and as user. Any tip? emilio

Re: [gentoo-user] 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread Alex Schuster
SpaceCake writes: Is there a user friendly guide or howto to help me to migrate my 32 bit gentoo to 64 bit without loosing my settings? A similar question came up just yesterday, look for the 'Gentoo 32bit- 64bit: How?' thread. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:44 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, SpaceCake did opine thusly: Hi, Is there a user friendly guide or howto to help me to migrate my 32 bit gentoo to 64 bit without loosing my settings? Thank you Laszlo Forget it, don't even try. You might succeed, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: It would require one strong admin in the developers team, convinced itself of the advantages and with a missionary nature. nobody likes people like that.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: going Uh duh, why didn't I think of that or Thanks, I hadn't thought of that), or b) the subject is something so far off the topic of Gentoo I want to specially point out this. I think it a good habit, to say thank you. It motivates people to support

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote: When you say Gentoo, do you mean Portage? Remember Windows has a lot of limitations that WILL get in your way so dont be surprised when things break. I am specially interested in Gentoo because it is not another linux distribution, but an administration tool to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: Al, Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many other very cool features. I do you favour and confirm that it is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Robert Bridge
I don't know how well it works with Linux, but if screen estate really matters, has anyone looked at the Lenovo ThinkPad W700ds? I know pretty much every CAD person I know drools over it as a mobile workstation... RobbieAB

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-07 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Alex Schuster wrote: It means that portage wants to install both dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.9.0 and dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.6.2-r1 at the same time. I don't understand why, looks to me like it should keep you already installed 1.6.2-r1 version. Do you need to have this package in

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: Gentoo is developers network not a rest home. and none of the developers or the users see a need for a news server. Btw, why are you talking about a 'developers network' and see a must have in a news server? As far as I can tell from that other thread

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: Hi Alex, Hmm, ist this really true? We have good bandwith nowadays, even Dale has Take the previous posting of Albert Hopkins as best prove of that: quote * End the noise here. /quote So why does he read the thread, if he considers as

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-07, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many other very cool features. I do you favour and confirm that it is a very

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it. When you think mailinlists such advanced, there is no reason to be disturbed by a discussion that doesn't stays inside it's thread. By your reaction you only underline the limitations of the

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-07, Robert Bridge rob...@robbieab.com wrote: I don't know how well it works with Linux, but if screen estate really matters, has anyone looked at the Lenovo ThinkPad W700ds? I know pretty much every CAD person I know drools over it as a mobile workstation... I don't know about

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Jake [snip] Why say that lists are dead early? This list I find takes a certain amount of maintenance to keep up-to-date, otherwise it grows to an unmanageable number of e-mails in my Inbox. If anything, it's too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:13 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Ajai Khattri did opine thusly: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote: When you say Gentoo, do you mean Portage? Remember Windows has a lot of limitations that WILL get in your way so dont be surprised when things break. I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.orgwrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 01:36:28 David W Noon wrote: Moreover, keeping this as a subscription-only mailing list keeps the spam count down. An equally important factor is prohibiting subscriptions from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
I'm afraid you lost me there.  Why does it matter where the archive is? Sure, it is most important to have an archive at all. When using a newsreader the minimun I do is to scan the headers of the past, to avoid the discussion of a solved question. That is faster then openenig a webbrowser to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it. I would, if you wouldn't put out a large percentage of emails arriving at my inbox. When you think mailinlists such advanced, there is no reason to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:48 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: However, my concern was why the Gentoo community doesn't make use of those cool features and officially only advertises and keeps a mailing list, that has no history itself for example and how this approach influences and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
2010/9/7 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it. I would, if you wouldn't put out a large percentage of emails arriving at my inbox.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:48 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al did opine thusly: I'm afraid you lost me there. Why does it matter where the archive is? Sure, it is most important to have an archive at all. When using a newsreader the minimun I do is to scan the headers of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't).  It has an install button there, but mentions

Re: [gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program

[gentoo-user] Re: 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Is there a user friendly guide or howto to help me to migrate my 32 bit gentoo to 64 bit without loosing my settings? Forget it, don't even try. You might succeed, but it will not be worth the effort. You will complete the following steps

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Hi Alan, You are self-confessed new to Linux and Volker already spotted by are likely I am self-confessed new to Gentoo, but I use Linux for over 10 years as my main OS. Still I don't have all the insight, what is going on under the hood. new to Linux as well. You are not (yet) part of this

[gentoo-user] Re: Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/07/2010 08:11 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: We do not have a news service because we[1] do not feel we need one and do not desire one. I thought it's because this is the Gentoo *users'* list, not the dev list? :) It doesn't matter whether we want it or not -- we users couldn't do

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/7/2010 5:56 AM, Al wrote: It would be as simple as this: 1.) enter news.gentoo.org as news server to thunderbird 2.) select the groups you want to read 2 steps not more. That is far more simple than subscribing to a mailing list. You're skipping all the steps that start with Install

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Al
So it really does come down to portage after all. Portage has a hard dependency on bash. portage is intimately wrapped up in the linux way of doing things. Right, we have to say Bash. To be exact Bash is GNU not Linux. I genarally say Linux not Gnu-Linux. However in this case the difference

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Dale
Arttu V. wrote: On 9/7/10, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: We do not have a news service because we[1] do not feel we need one and do not desire one. I thought it's because this is the Gentoo *users'* list, not the dev list? :) It doesn't matter whether we want it or

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 18:57:12 Al wrote: 2010/9/7 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it. I would, if you wouldn't put out a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders

2010-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-09-02 3:43 PM, Jim Cunning jcunn...@cunning.ods.org wrote: It appears that the default configuration for MAXPERIP (maximum number of connections to accept from the same IP address) was set to 4. (I assume it's the default, since I never changed it myself.) Changing the value to 10

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Dale
Al wrote: 2010/9/7 Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it? Ignore it. I would, if you wouldn't put out a large percentage of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:10:03 +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 01:36:28 David W Noon wrote: Moreover, keeping this as a subscription-only mailing list keeps the spam count down. An equally important factor is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: And I bet if a bug / feature request were filed, it would be closed as ain't going to happen. I know that doesn't exist but they may make that available for just this one purpose. As a long-time user I'm sure you've met Mr. and Mrs. van de

Re: [gentoo-user] 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.09.2010 18:05, schrieb Alan McKinnon: 1. Back up /etc and anything else you want to keep 2. Reinstall 3. Set CHOST to something suitable 4. emerge -e world 5. Restore stuff from step #1 It's an interesting exercise to try and do the migration, people who like puzzles enjoy it. If

Re: [gentoo-user] 32to64 bit migration guide

2010-09-07 Thread SpaceCake
Thank you. The reason to change to 64bit is maybe I'll have 8 GB instead of 4GB of memory. PAE is already enabled in kernel, so I have no problem accessing memory above 3Gbyte. Is there any performance increase can be expected if I spend my time on this migration/reinstall? Thanks Laszlo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Al
2010/9/7 Ajai Khattri a...@bway.net: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote: When you say Gentoo, do you mean Portage? Remember Windows has a lot of limitations that WILL get in your way so dont be surprised when things break. I am specially interested in Gentoo because it is not another linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
If this were a news-group, your messages would still be filling up the list and we'd still need to filter out your messages. How do news-servers help keep the noise level down there? We go in circles here. NNTP is be default organzed in threads. You don't open a topic that you are not

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Al oss.el...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org 2010/9/7 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: because he hopes that you finally shut up? Why do you read this thread and answer to it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Can we just argue over the which came first, the chicken or the egg?  o_O  I seriously doubt there is going to be a news thingy for Gentoo, not unless you go make one yourself.  So, why keep arguing over it?  The people you are talking to can't set one up even if they thought Gentoo did need

[gentoo-user] sudo-1.7.4_p3-r1

2010-09-07 Thread Mick
Just updated and noticed that the edict: #Reset environment by default Defaultsenv_reset is no longer in /etc/sudoers. A load of other (commented out) environment incantations were added. What is the importance of this? Do I need env_reset? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:31:18 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: How do news-servers help keep the noise level down there? If Gentoo had one, Al would STFU about it and traffic would halve! -- Neil Bothwick Know thyself. If you need help, call the C.I.A. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:38:59 +0200, Al wrote:  Only YOU can go file the bug report and ask for it. It's not done by filing a bug. It's not a bug anyway. This is the clearest demonstration of your lack of understanding yet. -- Neil Bothwick It may be that your sole purpose in life is

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:26:16 +0200, Al wrote: We go in circles here. NNTP is be default organzed in threads. Yes it is, just like email. It is the rest that complaints of noise. With having mailing list as default way of communication this rest is bigger than necessary. Who is this rest, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Darren Kirby
 Only YOU can go file the bug report and ask for it. It's not done by filing a bug. It's not a bug anyway. Al Except that if you had the slightest bit of familiarity with the Gentoo community you would know that all wish-list items, infrastructure issues, and other such non-software bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Dale
Al wrote: Can we just argue over the which came first, the chicken or the egg? o_O I seriously doubt there is going to be a news thingy for Gentoo, not unless you go make one yourself. So, why keep arguing over it? The people you are talking to can't set one up even if they thought Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: If this were a news-group, your messages would still be filling up the list and we'd still need to filter out your messages. How do news-servers help keep the noise level down there? We go in circles here. NNTP is be default organzed in threads.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Ajai Khattri wrote: OK, Ive managed to proceed a little further, but now Im encountering this: # emerge -uDtpvk world When it's time to upgrade a large number of programs, it's better to take the task one step at a time, for example the following command:

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
person who desires such a feature, and that means, in a nutshell, DIY OK, I put it onto my DIY list. :-) Al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 23:11, Eray Aslan wrote: On 07.09.2010 15:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: I figure that just like a top-grade mechanic should be looking at SnapOns or similar in his toolbox, this here sysadmin also needs high quality tools. My chief tool is my notebook. It's the weight not the price

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 09/07/2010 08:11 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:15 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al did opine thusly: So it really does come down to portage after all. Portage has a hard dependency on bash. portage is intimately wrapped up in the linux way of doing things. Right, we have to say Bash. To be exact

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:52 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Arttu V. did opine thusly: On 9/7/10, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: And I bet if a bug / feature request were filed, it would be closed as ain't going to happen. I know that doesn't exist but they may make that

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